Now That I've Thought It Over

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  1. Mr. J

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    Balkman won't be so bad. I did some research on him last night and liked what I saw. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have Marcus Williams, but Balkman looks like he can be a good fit. He can guard all over the perimeter and a little bit of power forward at the next level, but he's the type of passionate, aggressive, dirty work kind of player we can all use.

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    ^Very reminiscent of Ricky Davis over Steve Nash.

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    Here are some highlights of his team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3ylwIuhJU

    Here is him rejecting someone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcO9a6kFqyM&sea...O%20BALKMAN%20'

    I think we'll like this guy regardless of where he was drafted. Blame Isiah; not him.
     
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    Please. If Isiah didnt take this guy he'd have been taking his game to Europe to warm some bench. In fact he was probably packing his bags when he saw the Knicks select him on television. And like the rest of us he was probably thinking, "What the Hell is Isiah Thomas doing???" That's providing he was even watching the draft in the first place which I doubt. But you're right. It's not his fault Isiah passed up arguably the best point guard in the draft for a mid second round- undrafted player at twenty. Cant blame him for coming to the Knicks, cashing his check, getting a few million dollars before leaving for Europe.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Please. If Isiah didnt take this guy he'd have been taking his game to Europe to warm some bench. In fact he was probably packing his bags when he saw the Knicks select him on television. And like the rest of us he was probably thinking, "What the Hell is Isiah Thomas doing???" That's providing he was even watching the draft in the first place which I doubt. But you're right. It's not his fault Isiah passed up arguably the best point guard in the draft for a mid second round- undrafted player at twenty. Cant blame him for coming to the Knicks, cashing his check, getting a few million dollars before leaving for Europe.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.</div>
    I'm not saying we should have chose him, I'm saying he's gonna be a decent fit for us, even though we should have been talking about Marcus Williams at this point.

    Just wondering, when's the summer league? I can't wait to see this guy play.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not saying we should have chose him, I'm saying he's gonna be a decent fit for us, even though we should have been talking about Marcus Williams at this point.

    Just wondering, when's the summer league? I can't wait to see this guy play.</div>

    Decent fit? I dont know. Do you think Udoka was a decent fit for us? Because I dont see this Balkman person being any better. I dont think Balkman will get much playing time in the summer league. There will be alot of talented players there and I dont think he'll be able to compete with them.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Decent fit? I dont know. Do you think Udoka was a decent fit for us? Because I dont see this Balkman person being any better. I dont think Balkman will get much playing time in the summer league. There will be alot of talented players there and I dont think he'll be able to compete with them.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.</div>
    Nah, I don't think he's a Udoka type, but if he is I won't be surprised. But from what I've read and the little I've seen, Balkman should be okay.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Balkman won't be so bad. I did some research on him last night and liked what I saw. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have Marcus Williams, but Balkman looks like he can be a good fit. He can guard all over the perimeter and a little bit of power forward at the next level, but he's the type of passionate, aggressive, dirty work kind of player we can all use.

    [​IMG]
    ^Very reminiscent of Ricky Davis over Steve Nash.

    [​IMG]
    ^Does the dirty work.

    [​IMG]
    ^Can guard little guys.

    Here are some highlights of his team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3ylwIuhJU

    Here is him rejecting someone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcO9a6kFqyM&sea...O%20BALKMAN%20'

    I think we'll like this guy regardless of where he was drafted. Blame Isiah; not him.</div>
    Youve just described David Lee.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Balkman won't be so bad. I did some research on him last night and liked what I saw. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather have Marcus Williams, but Balkman looks like he can be a good fit. He can guard all over the perimeter and a little bit of power forward at the next level, but he's the type of passionate, aggressive, dirty work kind of player we can all use.

    [​IMG]
    ^Very reminiscent of Ricky Davis over Steve Nash.

    [​IMG]
    ^Does the dirty work.

    [​IMG]
    ^Can guard little guys.

    Here are some highlights of his team: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3ylwIuhJU

    Here is him rejecting someone: http://youtube.com/watch?v=wcO9a6kFqyM&sea...O%20BALKMAN%20'

    I think we'll like this guy regardless of where he was drafted. Blame Isiah; not him.</div>

    Is that blunt still going? Sorry man, but theirs a reason he wasn't even at the draft last night. He might be able to develop into a role player in the future, but with guys like Marcus Williams, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar etc., he was a bad pick, and a major reach.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Is that blunt still going? Sorry man, but theirs a reason he wasn't even at the draft last night. He might be able to develop into a role player in the future, but with guys like Marcus Williams, Shannon Brown, Jordan Farmar etc., he was a bad pick, and a major reach.</div>
    The effects are still there. I rolled up a serious one after that pick.


    I'm just trying my best to be positive about him...
     
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    Balkman will definitely help the Knicks. He does what the current Knicks are allergic to: defend, rebound and scramble on every possession. Williams didnt make sense to me since the Knicks have so many guards who need the ball in order to be successful: Francis, Marbury, Robinson and Crawford. If Thomas felt that the team could have dealt either Francis, Marbury or Crawford, I'm sure he'd have chosen Williams. But I'm sure the market out there isn't glimmering with glee so he chose a player who can help and fit in.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rocket:</div><div class="quote_post">Balkman will definitely help the Knicks. He does what the current Knicks are allergic to: defend, rebound and scramble on every possession. Williams didnt make sense to me since the Knicks have so many guards who need the ball in order to be successful: Francis, Marbury, Robinson and Crawford. If Thomas felt that the team could have dealt either Francis, Marbury or Crawford, I'm sure he'd have chosen Williams. But I'm sure the market out there isn't glimmering with glee so he chose a player who can help and fit in.</div>

    First of all if Renaldo Balkman's defense, rebounding and other intangibles was half as good as some people make it out to be he would have been a consistent starter on a team that didnt make the NCAA tournament. Second of all I dont care if the Knicks have a whole bunch of guards, none of them bring to the table what Marcus Williams brings. Third of all you underestimate the stupidity of Isiah Thomas.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     
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    Well, the dirty work players aren't usually sought out in drafts. Guys like Haslem, Ben Wallace, and Reggie Evans were all undrafted. Still, that doesn't excuse Isiah for passing on other players who were available. He probably could've drafted him with the 29th pick (I don't buy that Phoenix business at all). Of course, people will forgive him if he turns out to be a great player, but it doesn't erase the fact that his draft strategy was horrible.
     
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    That's all well and good, but why not just buy a second round pick and take him there?
     
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    I was watching the wire and in episode 6 of the first season when the partys over they're watching the TV, and one of the guys says "The Knicks done ****** up the draft again."
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> none of them bring to the table what Marcus Williams brings.</div>

    Stop right there, being productive in the NBA is totally different than being productive elsewhere. Saying already he is going to bring to the table more than the guy you drafted is just being a pessimist and short sighted. Granted Marcus Williams is an excellent player but thats no reason to just push aside who you recieved this year.
     

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