<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Jumping at an opportunity to stay home in Los Angeles and grab and longer term deal for more money, NBA sources confirmed Saturday that Thomas will sign with the Clippers for four years at the mid-level exception, a deal that will be worth as much as $24 million. </div> http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=68843 So I'm assuming this means we aren't signing Radmonovic anymore if it's true. I'm not a fan of Thomas at all, he can shoot and all, but the guy is annoying and does a lot of stupidness. He's also a horrific rebounder for his height, and can't defend a lick. This is not a bad move, but to me, we've wasted the MLE on him.
I don't like this move. You just desrcibed him perfeclty. For a 6'10", 250 pound guy all he's good for is shooting. He plays no defense, doesn't rebound, and adds a lot of distractions. I definitely think the Clippers should have looked elsewhere for their MLE.
But do they really need rebounding with Brand and Kaman? I think they spent their MLE wisely on him. Thomas can be the perfect spark plug for them, I actually like this signing.
He fit in with the Suns, probably because Nash gave him open looks. And the Suns didn't really play defense... We'll see how he fits with the Clips.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">But do they really need rebounding with Brand and Kaman? I think they spent their MLE wisely on him. Thomas can be the perfect spark plug for them, I actually like this signing.</div> Okay, then why not just keep Radmanovic? Is there any reason that Tim Thomas the underachiever is better? Also remember he'll be subbing in at SF/PF, so he'll need to rebound when he's on the floor.
You guys are too cynical......Thomas would be GREAT for you. Radmonavic is a quality player, but Thomas is the better player. By losing Vlade, you get something potentially better in return. Maybe not defensivley, but he clearly a better ball handler. Which might come in handy if you end up losing Cassell.
Tim Thomas signs with clippers. nbs.com reported tonight that tim thomas has signed with the clippers for 5.4 million instead of signing with the suns for 3.5. the suns wouldnt match, which i dont blame them. thats to much for a guy who reportably has a track record of being shady anyways. he didnt even return the suns phone calls during the whole month of the draft even his resigning was more important then getting a draft pick. kinda ****** up and it puts egg on the suns faces.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys are too cynical......Thomas would be GREAT for you. Radmonavic is a quality player, but Thomas is the better player. By losing Vlade, you get something potentially better in return. Maybe not defensivley, but he clearly a better ball handler. Which might come in handy if you end up losing Cassell.</div> Are you serious? Why would Tim Thomas' ball handling matter. If we lose Cassell, we're not going to start giving Tim Thomas ball handling duties, that's a useless point in your argument.
I haven't watched Vlad or anything so does he drive the ball and finish like Thomas did with the Suns? He does do more on offense then shoot threes. But, I agree on defense and everything.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting The Soft Parade:</div><div class="quote_post">I thought Thomas loved playing in PHX too. This signing just fills in the hole Vlad left I guess.</div> he said multipe times "he made his money in the nba" "I love it here in phoenix." so on and so on. well, he took 5.4m over 3.5m with a team not quite as good as the suns. soooo maybe after throwing egg in the suns faces and considering his shady past the suns are better off without him. who knows
As a fan of the NBA in general, I despise this signing. I loved it last year when Tim Thomas was sent home by Scott Skiles. I was praying that the Bulls DIDN'T waive him, that way that idiot wouldn't touch an NBA court. Beyond that, even as a Laker fan, I think this is a bad signing for the Clipps. Tim Thomas is useless, unless you're simply trying to find a shooter. His basketball IQ is extremely low. Good luck finding a set that this moron will understand. Aside from that, he's a poor defender. That's why he prospered in Phoenix is because he didn't have to do anything on the defensive side of the ball cause they don't believe in that type of thing down there. Another reason why he prospered in Phoenix is because Nash got him open looks. If Cassell stays, nothing against him, but he's not the distributor Nash is nor does he have the courtvision of him, so because of that Thomas is going to have work even harder to get open. All in all, I don't like it. I personally don't think he even deserves to be in the league, but that's just me. Nobody that has such a low basketball IQ, no one that has such an awful work ethic, no one with such a horrible attitude, should not be allowed in the NBA. The man is a moron that doesn't take criticism well and doesn't like to put forth any effort (hence why he was booted by Skiles and Pax in Chitown).
Vlade and Thomas are almost the same player. The thing with Vlade is that he can defend and get rebounds when he wants to. So I would prefer Vlade over Thomas. Vlade's younger and he can drive to the basket too...again that's if he wants to. Also, i just don't like Thomas...he's an ass.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting monty001:</div><div class="quote_post">Vlade and Thomas are almost the same player. The thing with Vlade is that he can defend and get rebounds when he wants to. So I would prefer Vlade over Thomas. Vlade's younger and he can drive to the basket too...again that's if he wants to. Also, i just don't like Thomas...he's an ass.</div> I don't agree with most of what you said but we are all entitled to our opinions. Comparing Vlade and Thomas' defense is like saying one piece of swiss cheese has more holes than the other. They both lack defensively. Saying Vlade can get more rebounds than Thomas' is the same as well. Vladimir hates getting in there to bang elbows..same with Thomas. Only advantage here is Vlade's height. Saying Vlade can drive to the basket alone is quite funny. Vlade isn't an explosive guy, I hardly ever saw him drive. I can see Bill Walton now commenting on a dunk by Vlade....." THROW IT DOWN BIG MAN! " The signing of Thomas and loss of Vlade is like going in a time machine. All your getting is an older Vlader really.....an older Vlade thats an ass though. Hell maybe Cassell and him can mesh together since they were once friends if I'm correct.
Vlade puts the ball on the floor quite well actually. A lot of times he's able to put it on the floor because the defense comes charging to challenge his outisde shot. He's also a pretty good passer/playmaker when he does elect to put the ball on the floor. He's also a pretty decent rebouder, is quite athletic, and has a good body. His faults come in terms of defense, and not scoring in the mid-range area too much, a post game would do wonders for him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Vlade puts the ball on the floor quite well actually. A lot of times he's able to put it on the floor because the defense comes charging to challenge his outisde shot. He's also a pretty good passer/playmaker when he does elect to put the ball on the floor.</div> I wasn't doubting the man, just saying I doubt he is going to throw in down in someones face . <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">He's also a pretty decent rebouder, is quite athletic, and has a good body. His faults come in terms of defense, and not scoring in the mid-range area too much, a post game would do wonders for him.</div> When he signed with the Lakers I think he said he is going to work on his post moves and such with Vlade...the real Vlade(Divac).
That would be fantastic if he got a post-game... anyway, the Thomas signing, it depends on which one you got, Bulls Thomas or Suns Thomas, if you got Suns Thomas, it could be a great replacement for Vlad, watch out for lazy Thomas, though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pittsn0gle:</div><div class="quote_post">That would be fantastic if he got a post-game... anyway, the Thomas signing, it depends on which one you got, Bulls Thomas or Suns Thomas, if you got Suns Thomas, it could be a great replacement for Vlad, watch out for lazy Thomas, though.</div> VERY very true.