source: www.hoopsworld.com <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets Report: Stro' Won't Go By Bill Ingram for HOOPSWORLD.com Jul 2, 2006, 18:59 The Houston Rockets have hit a glitch in their attempts to finalize the trade that would send Rudy Gay and Stromile Swift to the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for veteran swingman Shane Battier. The glitch? Swift told the Rockets point blank that he would not report to Memphis. He walked away from the Grizzlies last summer to sign as a free agent in Houston, but his uninspired play has caused the Rockets to re-think the 17.4 million they have wrapped up in Swift. When the Grizzlies emerged as interested in having him back, the Rockets were only too happy to oblige. So now that Swift is stubbornly refusing to go back to Memphis - and a player has 36 hours to report after a trade or the trade is rescinded - the Grizzlies have revealed that they have a bigger plan in mind. The idea is that Swift would not stay in Memphis, where Jerry West just drafted the highly-touted Alexander Johnson, but rather be a part of an additional deal. Swift winds up somewhere else, while the Rockets end up getting an additional player as part of the three-team package. Enter Mike James. Free agent Mike James has been in Houston hoping for a call from the local boys for quite some time. Several other teams have called, but James has been holding out for a meeting with the Rockets. That meeting finally came on Saturday, when Jeff Van Gundy ultimately resigned to meeting with his former sixth man. How well that meeting went may determine the future of this deal. The Rockets could certainly use the scoring that James brings to the table, but he's too short to start at the two and he's not a selfless enough player to be at the point. The Rockets can't afford James, so the only way he comes is if another team signs him and the gets in bed with the Memphis deal. So the Rockets could potentially make out pretty well on this deal if a third team can be found to make it all come together. Houston sends out Gay and Swift, gets Battier and James, and then uses whatever is left of their resources to grab a true two. Or maybe a three who would allow McGrady to slip over to the three. I've said before and I will say again that Utah free agent Matt Harpring would be a nice fit with the Rockets' style of play. It could also be that acquiring Battier makes it less important to find a two. If McGrady slides over to that position and Battier starts alongside him, the problem could be solved that way.</div> hm..i dont want STRO in the raptors just because we have to many PFs. I wouldnt mind getting Rudy Gay, but than we would have to ship maybe Mo-Pete.
If Jerry West gives up Rudy for Peterson, then he may as well retire. And Colangelo would reach "God-esque" status!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gotrunks226:</div><div class="quote_post">Heh.. Swift can play Center.. he did that in Memphis and in Vancouver..</div>Memphis and Vancouver are the same team....not sure if you realize that.
lol..well..Houston does want Mike James. If we can maybe S & T James for Gay--that would be perfect. Houston wants an SG..and James would improve them offensively. Maybe James, Sow and a future second round pick?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">lol..well..Houston does want Mike James. If we can maybe S & T James for Gay--that would be perfect. Houston wants an SG..and James would improve them offensively. Maybe James, Sow and a future second round pick?</div> the whole point of the trade is for houston to get battier and memphis to get gay, if we get gay and houston gets mike james then what the hell does memphis get? they keep battier and get stromile who deoesnt want to go there anyways please think
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Memphis and Vancouver are the same team....not sure if you realize that.</div> Yeah i do realize that.. i was just mentioning the two different cities..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pierce990:</div><div class="quote_post">wtf? are you dumb.. the whole point of the trade is for houston to get battier and memphis to get gay, if we get gay and houston gets mike james then what the hell does memphis get? they keep battier and get stromile who deoesnt want to go there anyways please think</div> um..there was a reason that i didnt include memphis in that deal ..anyways after watching the following clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmZeY6tJdpQ i think i am convinced that Mike James wants to be a rocket, and Houston wants Mike James. Juwan Howard has been playing well as Houston's starting PF. Instead of Battier, they should just go for Mike James in a S & T (as mentioned befoer)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">um..there was a reason that i didnt include memphis in that deal idiot..anyways after watching the following clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmZeY6tJdpQ i think i am convinced that Mike James wants to be a rocket, and Houston wants Mike James. Juwan Howard has been playing well as Houston's starting PF. Instead of Battier, they should just go for Mike James in a S & T (as mentioned befoer)</div> umm the topic title is ROCKETS-MEMPHIS-RAPTOR trade please start a new one that doesnt include memphis
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pierce990:</div><div class="quote_post">umm the topic title is ROCKETS-MEMPHIS-RAPTOR trade please start a new one that doesnt include memphis</div> why? alternate theorys and ideas can be put forth in this thread, as they always do in other threads. just because you dont agree with a particular opinion, doesnt make it stupid. there is no need for name calling and insults. disagree with him? fine...then debate in a mature fashion plz. if you're going to try and tell someone the "forum rules" at least follow them yourself
Toronto trade exception from houston Swift Rockets Shane James Memphis Rudy gay does that even make sense
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">why? alternate theorys and ideas can be put forth in this thread, as they always do in other threads. just because you dont agree with a particular opinion, doesnt make it stupid. there is no need for name calling and insults. disagree with him? fine...then debate in a mature fashion plz. if you're going to try and tell someone the "forum rules" at least follow them yourself</div> no where did i say that i disagree with the guy, i would like to get rudy gay also, and "dumb" is considered name calling i can tell you are a kid considering the fact that you are butting in on a dumb argument, who is really the "immature" one now? spending your time typing all that oh my lord
Ummm... The more likely way of this going is .. Houston Gets Battier Toronto Get Swift Memphis Get James, Gay. Since this trade was suppose to be Grizzlies Recieve Swift and Gay for Battier. Then Swift will not report to Memphis which is why the Rockets/Grizzlies are looking for a 3rd party.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pierce990:</div><div class="quote_post">no where did i say that i disagree with the guy, i would like to get rudy gay also, and "dumb" is considered name calling i can tell you are a kid considering the fact that you are butting in on a dumb argument, who is really the "immature" one now? spending your time typing all that oh my lord</div> you're finding fault with me typing that one msg, when you've typed how many msg's in this thread already? take a look at the time i typed it...i was up late and couldnt sleep...if i choose to spend 2 mins to respond to something on a msg board, whats the problem? how is it any different from what you're doing? no need to clear that up for me...i realize "dumb" is name calling. thanks though butting in? maybe...hoping to put an end personal attacks, and help to keep this forum on topic and a place for mature discussion where people can feel free to post their opinions without senseless flaming? absolutely. If you want to call me immature for that, thats fine...I never called YOU personally immature...I said lets try to keep our debates to a mature fashion. sorry if you took that personally. either way...you're wrong again...im not a kid. probably older then you actually back to the subject....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pierce990:</div><div class="quote_post">no where did i say that i disagree with the guy, i would like to get rudy gay also, and "dumb" is considered name calling i can tell you are a kid considering the fact that you are butting in on a dumb argument, who is really the "immature" one now? spending your time typing all that oh my lord</div> ^^ you both sound like little kids....but really pierce990 quit being so asinine. Personally I don't want anything to do with this trade as a Raps fan. There is no positive in it really. We don't NEED rudy gay, and even if he turns into a superstar...would you buy his jersey!? Swift has shown everyone that the only thing he is good at is looking like a lazy deer caught in the headlights. = USELESS. That and why would we want to pay that kind of money for a guy to backup CB who plays the same game. That and there is another post about a 'logjam' at the 4 spot. As for Gay he could end up being a total bust, there is no guaruntee. It's not like we'd be losing anything in giving up Mike James, but why bother.... Oh ya and Pierce990 this is a Raptors forum....WE DON"T CARE WHAT MEMPHIS OR HOUSTON WANTS
I dont think Gay is coming to Raps.. The only reason Houston got Battier was because Rockets gave up Gay. Battier is a valuable player. Memphis won't get ripped by giving away Battier and geting Stro. Stro doesnt want to go to Memphis which means he may come to Raps. And Houston might add someone else to Raps to get Mike James. So houston will get James and Battier. Raps will get Stro and someone from Memphis. And Memphis will get Gay and someone from Raps.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you're finding fault with me typing that one msg, when you've typed how many msg's in this thread already? take a look at the time i typed it...i was up late and couldnt sleep...if i choose to spend 2 mins to respond to something on a msg board, whats the problem? how is it any different from what you're doing? no need to clear that up for me...i realize "dumb" is name calling. thanks though butting in? maybe...hoping to put an end personal attacks, and help to keep this forum on topic and a place for mature discussion where people can feel free to post their opinions without senseless flaming? absolutely. If you want to call me immature for that, thats fine...I never called YOU personally immature...I said lets try to keep our debates to a mature fashion. sorry if you took that personally. either way...you're wrong again...im not a kid. probably older then you actually back to the subject....</div> keep talking to me to keep it on topic gg
