Do Warriors Need to React Now?

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  1. Shapecity

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    Last year the playoff race in the West came down to 10 teams fighting for 8 spots. With free agency deals and draft day deals, teams who missed the playoffs in the West, and the lower seeds have all improved their rosters. The top seeds have also made moves to give themselves a chance at a winning season next year.

    Houston Rockets - Added Shane Battier, got rid of the cancer known as Stromile Swift. A healthy TMac-Yao should get this team back in the postseason

    Phoenix Suns - They replace Tim Thomas with Amare Stoudemire.

    New Orleans Hornets - Drafted two young shotblockers, Adding Peja Stoyakovic, and could possibly trade for Tyson Chandler, BJax will replace Speedy Claxton

    Utah Jazz - Quietly had one of the better drafts this year. If they can avoid an injury-free season, the Jazz will be right in the mix for a playoff spot.

    Seattle Sonics - There season probably hinges on whether or not they can re-sign Chris Wilcox. They played really well once they made the deal to acquire him last year.

    Denver Nuggets - Locked up Carmelo Early, Nene Hilario is apparently in the best shape ever.

    Memphis Grizzlie - They might be the team dropping out of the playoffs next year. I don't think Jerry West is done dealing, but trading away Battier could signal Memphis might be considering rebuilding.

    Dallas Mavs - Resigned Jason Terry

    LA Clippers - Replaced Radmonivic with Tim Thomas, and are still in the bidding war for Sam Cassell

    LA Lakers - Improved their depth with Maurice Evans, Jordan Farmar, and Vlade Radman

    San Antonio Spurs - Still have their core together with Duncan-Parker-Gino

    Sacramento Kings - A full season with Artest, however, they need resign Bonzi

    Will some of these free agent moves, put Mullin in panic mode? Above is a list of 11 teams who are going to compete for the 8 spots out West.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I'm in panic mode if we stand pat again like last year or we start re-signing guys too early and overpaying them.

    God! Mullin is sure a rookie GM. '04 really crippled us and locked up the two most important positions on a team with crap. The point guard is supposed to be quick and the center is supposed to be big and intimidating. Talk about doing the exact reverse...

    Last year we might have been going somewhere because of Baron Davis, but Mullin stood pat. He knew it was basically the same team as '04 and the Warriors typically do well in late season games after we've been statistically eliminated from making the playoffs. Also Dunleavy hasn't done much for two straight years, although he's improved. Because Dunleavy is a favorite of Mullin he's the one player he chose to re-sign immediately. Whereas Richardson/Murphy were signed on the very last day to do the extension.

    I think Mullin doesn't know what the hell he's doing sometimes. But the draft seems to be an indictator that he's working on it because we can't find the answer through free agency or trades. Hopefully this is not the case with the small forward position. There should be plenty of guys to choose from to play for us. The league is getting pretty loaded as it is.

    My picks for SF:

    Jumaine Jones
    Shandon Anderson
    Rasual Butler
    Matt Harpring
     
  3. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Another idea is if we really want our shooting guard to be a good ballhandler, good defender and free throw shooter we trade for Paul Pierce or somebody straight up with Jrich. I said Jrich because salary and chemistry wise the two can't be on the same team IMO. I don't think there's enough touches to go around.

    What this team could use is a guy that can get to the foul line a lot and make shots. This way we're not over reliant on Baron Davis to be the only one who can do something. Good teams can win a game through the foul line, especially with the ticky tacky calls the refs are calling these days.


    I see Paul Pierce or a similar guy as an upgrade over a guy that doesn't handle particularly well, move laterally quick, or make free throws. It's just an idea since moving Jrich could be a wise move if it gets us an even more complete player that will be good for a while. If we're keeping Jrich as sort of a Rip Hamilton type scorer (better without the ball), we'll need to find a small forward like Tayshaun Prince or Joe Johnson and suitable big men.
     
  4. .cabangbang

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    custodian, what about Posey? He's a good player and he could defenitely replace Dunleavy given minutes.
     
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    and fisher straight up for dunleavy works financially......

    Custodian how can you say you think Mullin doesnt know what he is doing sometimes? He hired the brilliant Monty didnt he and he is sticking by him while the rest of the world either expects or wants Monty fired. How can you stick by Monty and bash Mullin? It is his hiring. So, doesnt that mean he knows just what he is doing?

    Paul Pierce!!!! AAarrrggghhh. Why does everyone want to move J-rich ? The only player on the roster that has shown heart and the will to play through pain at all costs to win.

    Sure Jermaine Jones or Harpring would be nice as back ups at the 3, but there is no question the most glaring area we need help, the area that kept us out of the playoffs the past two years is the play of our back up point guard Absolutely the worst player in franchise history. WE need to address that immediately. If we go in to the coming season with Fisher as the back up Point guard, wait, if we go into the season with Fisher on the roster, you might as well pencil us in for the lottery right now. But to have Fisher as our back up after he has proved he cant even play the position at a junior high school level would be throwing the towel in on the season. There is a big hole at the back up 1, we may be weak at the 3 with dunleavy, J-rich at times, and zarko but we can survive that more so that fisher at the one.
     
  6. xplicitjc

    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    ^^^please tell me you were being sarcastic when you called monty "brilliant"

    i don't think you were


    wow.
     
  7. .cabangbang

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    He was being sarcastic, but if we want to win 2007 lottery, Monty is our man.
     
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    I may be the only one in the world to think this: But I like this current roster, and I believe it is a roster that is as good if not better than most teams in the leauge (though it does have a 'hole" at the SF position).

    I love the back court with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson who have good backups in Monta Ellis, Mickael Pietrus, and in some ways Derek Fisher. The front court is stacked now with depth and tons of prospects. The center position is looking good with Andris Biedrins, Chris Taft, Patrick O'Bryant, Adonal Foyle, and Kosta Perovic. The power forward position is where many matchups can be made. Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu, and Zarko Cabarkapa is not bad. Now that the team/organization knows about the defense of Monta Ellis, and hopefully something changes and Pietrus turns back to normal in his defending abilities on the court as they seemed to leave him last year. This will give the Warriors strong defensive backcourt options. The front court defense also should be pretty good with Andris, POB, and Taft, along with many other very big bodies. We also know the scoring abilities of these players. So really, I am pretty satisfied with the roster right now.

    I will be much more content though if the Warriors are able to find a good back up SF or even better a good starting SF, though I will be fine with a solid SF as a back up too.

    The biggest need for the Warriors is not talent. Remember this team was in almost every game last year, in my honest opinion because of talent. How many close games that were lost last year? What this team needs is leadership. The biggest need for this team is a new head coach, unless if Monty makes gigantic improvements. The Warriors ended the season with almost two different rosters. One roster was the normal 6 of Baron/Jason/Dun/Murph/Foyle that sucked up too many minutes for themself: the second roster was of the young guys like Bynum/Monta/Zarko/Ike/Andris, which received very little playing time, but was able to really shine at the end of the season and in my opinion throughout the season, just not as apparent or appreciated by the coaching staff. Bringing those two squads, almost to say, together will be step number one, aka Montgomery understanding how to use a bench effectively. IMO it will be leadership that will take this team over the hump of this dredged streak of losing.

    Baron Davis/Monta Ellis/Derek Fisher
    Jason Richardson/Mickael Pietrus
    Mike Dunleavy/(offseason addition somehow)
    Troy Murphy/Ike Diogu/Zarko Cabarkapa
    Andris Biedrins/Chris Taft/Patrick O'Bryant/Adonal Foyle/Kosta Perovic
     
  9. AlleyOop

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    I don't see Paul Pierce taking any team deep in the playoffs. He hasn't done it in Boston. He's a high volume shooter, and, while he's a great scorer, he's not really a franchise cornerstone. a swap of JRich for Pierce would be interesting but giving up anything more (like JRich and Taft/Beans/Pietrus/etc) would be too much.

    The Warriors need to find a way to package Pietrus with either Murphy, Foyle, Dunleavy, or Fisher, and get back cap relief or a position player depending on who they trade.

    If Pietrus is packaged, the Warriors would be thin at SF, so I'd look for a good starting SF (like..... Corey Magette) to start in front of Dun Dun.

    If the Warriors can find a way to move any one of those four contracts without giving up Pietrus, then they'd have the opportunity to resign Pietrus, given the cap space.

    Given his underachievments last year, this would be a good thing. Because while he may be no better/worse than Dunleavy at the three, we could probably sign him cheaper than the big-ride deal we gave Dun, and thus instantly upgrade just through a restructuring of contracts.

    If Fisher goes, then the guard thing is interesting.

    We have Monta, JRich, and Baron, and I assume Will Bynum. That's not exatly deep. If Jrich gets hurt, We have Monta starting at the 2 and, who, Pietrus/Dunleavy backing him up?

    This is why I would have drafted Marcus Williams, JJ Redick, or Ronnie Brewer over POB. We'd have more versatility to dump Fisher's fat (yet somehow valued) contract. Now, if we package Pietrus and Fisher together, we put a lot of weight on our starting guards to play big minutes and not get hurt. Unless we trade for a guard.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CABANGBANG:</div><div class="quote_post">He was being sarcastic, but if we want to win 2007 lottery, Monty is our man.</div>

    Agree [​IMG] Maybe this is one big consipracy to get top pick in next year draft, otherwise i don't see why monty still has the job.
     
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    This thread is funny, it seems like every post that was more than two sentences, I strongly agreed with half of it and strongly disagreed with the other half.

    Custodian...well actually I just mostly disagreed with you (sorry). I am not a Paul Pierce fan, I never have been. I completely agree with AlleyOop. If Pierce has never taken the Celtics anywhere, especially since they've been in the worst division in the worst conference for years, how could you expect him to do anything with the Warriors?

    Pierce is a supremely talented one on one player, but he has no idea about how to make his team better. If you don't want to look at the Celtics as an example, look at what he did as one of the headliners on the 2002 World Basektball debacle.

    Also Custodian, Mullin signed Dunleavy the day before the season started in '05 just like he resigned Richardson and Murphy the day before the season started the year before. Don't go spreading lies, lord knows the Dunleavy detractors jump all over any bit of half truth. Speaking of which, just where exactly was Dunleavy on 9/11 or the day that Kennedy was shot? Or Lincoln for that matter?

    Cliff25, I'm with you. I really do like this roster. I certainly don't think there needs to be wholesale changes, but given the Warriors draft choices and the glut of young big men, I think a trade needs to be made. My ideal scenario would be sending Murphy and one of the young bigs to Cleveland for Ilgauskas in a sign and trade.
     
  12. Courtking

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    It's time for panic mode. Every year it seems that you hear this can be the year for the Warriors and that they have great potential and every year they let you down. It's time to trade Murphy, Dunleavy, and Pietrus, hopefully to get a guy like Paul Pierce or Corey Maggette.
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread is funny, it seems like every post that was more than two sentences, I strongly agreed with half of it and strongly disagreed with the other half.

    Custodian...well actually I just mostly disagreed with you (sorry). I am not a Paul Pierce fan, I never have been. I completely agree with AlleyOop. If Pierce has never taken the Celtics anywhere, especially since they've been in the worst division in the worst conference for years, how could you expect him to do anything with the Warriors?

    Pierce is a supremely talented one on one player, but he has no idea about how to make his team better. If you don't want to look at the Celtics as an example, look at what he did as one of the headliners on the 2002 World Basektball debacle.

    Also Custodian, Mullin signed Dunleavy the day before the season started in '05 just like he resigned Richardson and Murphy the day before the season started the year before. Don't go spreading lies, lord knows the Dunleavy detractors jump all over any bit of half truth. Speaking of which, just where exactly was Dunleavy on 9/11 or the day that Kennedy was shot? Or Lincoln for that matter?

    Cliff25, I'm with you. I really do like this roster. I certainly don't think there needs to be wholesale changes, but given the Warriors draft choices and the glut of young big men, I think a trade needs to be made. My ideal scenario would be sending Murphy and one of the young bigs to Cleveland for Ilgauskas in a sign and trade.</div>

    oh CRAP that's right Dunleavy was signed the year before just like Murphy/Jrich. Okay, maybe i'm confused, but it was never intended to be a lie. Still... what did Dunleavy ever do to warrant what Jrich/Murphy showed in the years before? He was given special treatment obviously and that's another reason why he is unpopular. If he bounces back, great, but his upside seems as a role player that doesn't do one thing particularly well with this current roster.

    Anyway, I suggested Paul Pierce as one possible player over Jrich because missing all these free throws and having the inability to create offense has been an absolute problem with this team. It's ridiculous how we lose by 3 points or more when all we really had to do was just make at least 75% free throws as a team. The worst part is Baron also misses free throws, Biedrins does this, Pietrus does this, and it's getting ridiculous how guys tend to shoot more threes than they make an effort to get to the line and convert. When our frontcourt shoots better than our backcourt at the line that is just plain sad. I also think Boston has done a poor job building around Paul Pierce the same way the Warriors have done with Jrich, but I think PP can be the same team player as Jrich (Jrich ain't perfect either). Neither are really franchise players, but the teams were poorly built around these guys and they never chose a solid direction (It's 3's, 3's, 3's). If Paul Pierce had an inside threat inside, maybe we'd see a different Boston team. If we switched Jrich with PP, I still think he's better than Jrich in terms of ballhandling, free throw shooting, and performance down the stretch for this team. If we're settling for a shooting guard that will be mediocre in these aspects, then we need another tall perimeter guy to pick up the slack for ballhandling, D, free throws or make it so our point guard doesn't suck at it too. If that SF guy is Dunleavy, then I think we're going to lose if we don't do something about Murphy then and find a more consistent producer off the bench for small forward. Too many slow guys on the perimeter where one guy won't help out on D (Murphy) is just bad news. It also affects the offense as Dunleavy will take the same distance shots as Murphy will. So who attacks inside if we don't have any dominant one-on-one players for isolations and few guys move off the ball?

    I believe that Dunleavy + Murphy will never coo-exist and as long as we don't have that dominant one on one player for isolations or guys that don't understand how to move off the ball or capitalize off the free throw line, we're going to lose. There's just too many flaws to cover up. While Jrich is the best player, there's a lot he needs to work on. There's just a reason why we keep missing the playoffs and its because we're not doing the little things needed to close out games and get the points that are supposed to be automatic. Then it's also the team has little direction. But if Mullin's recent drafting is that direction as well as the rumors to move Murphy, then I can sort of see where he's trying to go with it.
     
  14. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Actually Dunleavy was signed early. Murphy + Jrich were signed on the absolute last day before midnight. Dunleavy was signed way earlier than the last day (deadline). I think that was what I was implying. That part is true.

    It could have been Murphy/Jrich's agent, Dan Fegan, was just more of a pain to deal with though.

    Dunleavy didn't seem as worried his offseason despite slowly improving his stats, but he was not really being a huge factor in the eyes of fans in '02 or '03 (at least). Then again I could be biased because I hate our frontline of SF, PF, C. Backcourt I'm not too impressed with either because it has the look of "the best backcourt in the NBA", but it's terrible in terms of free throw shooting and setting the tone in certain areas. I could stand Dunleavy if we had a better PF/C and obviously Mullin is fixing this. NBA readiness is a factor though. I don't think the roster is that ready except for maybe PF.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CABANGBANG:</div><div class="quote_post">custodian, what about Posey? He's a good player and he could defenitely replace Dunleavy given minutes.</div>

    I'd take Posey. I think he's okay... He doesn't really make up for Jrich's shortcomings, but he's versatile as a defender. I think Pietrus mainly works against big combo guards or quick 6'6 shooting guards, but not small forward. I think Posey can definitely guard small forward, although I've seen Dunleavy school him on two separate occassions which was funny. I've got clips of it with Dun's crossover, behind the back dribble and dribble hesitation moves. Posey got absolutely pwned. So Dunleavy has some skills to beat a more athletic player, but I'd sure like an nba ready backup to take over when he's sucking again. Dunleavy/Posey tandem wouldn't be that bad IMO. It's just going to suck when both those guys' shots aren't falling and they can't create that well.

    Since Dunleavy is about as aggressive as pink cotton candy, it might be nice to throw somebody in that is aggressive enough and not stupid aggressive like Pietrus is when it comes to decision-making. Talk about two sides of the extreme with no balance in-between.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually Dunleavy was signed early. Murphy + Jrich were signed on the absolute last day before midnight. Dunleavy was signed way earlier than the last day (deadline). I think that was what I was implying. That part is true.

    It could have been Murphy/Jrich's agent, Dan Fegan, was just more of a pain to deal with though.</div>
    This really doesn't matter, but since you posted twice, I'm going to as well. Murphy and Richardson were signed on 11/1/04, the day before the season started. Dunleavy was resigned on 10/31/05, two days before the season started.
     
  17. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting boogielew:</div><div class="quote_post">and fisher straight up for dunleavy works financially......

    Custodian how can you say you think Mullin doesnt know what he is doing sometimes? He hired the brilliant Monty didnt he and he is sticking by him while the rest of the world either expects or wants Monty fired. How can you stick by Monty and bash Mullin? It is his hiring. So, doesnt that mean he knows just what he is doing?

    Paul Pierce!!!! AAarrrggghhh. Why does everyone want to move J-rich ? The only player on the roster that has shown heart and the will to play through pain at all costs to win.

    Sure Jermaine Jones or Harpring would be nice as back ups at the 3, but there is no question the most glaring area we need help, the area that kept us out of the playoffs the past two years is the play of our back up point guard Absolutely the worst player in franchise history. WE need to address that immediately. If we go in to the coming season with Fisher as the back up Point guard, wait, if we go into the season with Fisher on the roster, you might as well pencil us in for the lottery right now. But to have Fisher as our back up after he has proved he cant even play the position at a junior high school level would be throwing the towel in on the season. There is a big hole at the back up 1, we may be weak at the 3 with dunleavy, J-rich at times, and zarko but we can survive that more so that fisher at the one.</div>
    Boogielew just wanted say you are awesome man so whatever I say below is not in anger at you, but at the Warriors organization and their planning. I think this team has promise to do well in later years, but there's been things done in the past that is upsetting and we'll probably see this team struggle for a couple more years.


    I'm going to bold the areas I felt are easiest to explain where I'm coming from so its easier to pick out from.

    Boogielew, I just don't know how many times I've repeated on these boards that Monty ain't free from criticism, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you win with good teamwork and good STARTING players that can play together. This team does not play well together with our main core of Jrich/Murphy/Dunleavy and its shown since 02,03,04, on and on with their defensive problems and their lack of consistency at the free throw line and shooting the ball.

    The Warriors also have not played competitively in all 82 games regardless of coach. This means all guys on the floor playing smart, listening to what the coaches have to say, playing hard and not just at the end of the season when the pressure if off and opposing teams don't respect us. We don't have that balanced roster yet to win more games than we lose and if anybody has a different opinion, just look at our history of losing. We weren't a playoff team in the last 12 years and we sure as hell weren't one this year with the way this roster was assembled, Baron getting injured and doing worse, and our star backcourt players keep missing free throws through all 4 quarters.

    Also, relying on first year rookies who don't know the plays and are still developing, what about this issue? We going to screw them up mentally by putting them in a 4th quarter situation to win or lose? What happens to a rookie's confidence when he fails? What about veterans demanding their minutes only a year after they've been signed to starter's money.

    That is a damn situation that the GM put the coach in because he's got to rely on vets that can't get it done or rookies that aren't earning the playing time because of their inexperience or inability to execute with the other players. That's a lose-lose situation when you're trying to develop young rookies and their confidence and also trying to get these other guys to play like a team.

    If the coach says let them sit for a year, let them sit. If they ain't earning their playing time, it must be something that we're not seeing just like with Pietrus and his tendency to break away from plays. Also, we don't have any superstars that will get us to the playoffs or stars inside the paint. An all-star big man with a decent backcourt is still better than just a near all-star backcourt. I love Jrich but this poor free throw shooting and tendency to turn the ball over in traffic has to stop. There's too much guys scoring that aren't getting the automatic points from the line. How did we ever expect to be a high scoring team if we can't make our free throws? What we gong to shoot nothing but three pointers?

    It's not that freakin' hard to understand that I blame all the pieces in this crap organization, but I blame the players and the GM that brought them here first and foremost. When we have a GM that is financially responsible and making the kind of moves that will make this team competitive in the future and the balanced roster to compete in all 82 games, then I will focus on the coach. Right now the coaching isn't a priority if this damn team ain't a playoff team to begin with. It's that simple.

    Sorry, I had to bold it but it's always the case where people think I'm letting Monty go with a free pass. I'm sick of it. I'll shout it so people remember it in hopes of it sticking so I don't have to constantly repeat it.
     
  18. Custodianrules2

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting wtwalker77:</div><div class="quote_post">This really doesn't matter, but since you posted twice, I'm going to as well. Murphy and Richardson were signed on 11/1/04, the day before the season started. Dunleavy was resigned on 10/31/05, two days before the season started.</div>

    Nevermind then. It was a mistake. I apologize. All I rememer was that Dunleavy wasn't sweating his deal too much like Murphy/Jrich were. And of those three signings, Jrich can actually argue being underpaid.

    As much as I'm upset with the last three years of this organization that Mullin has been a part of, it's been really hard to figure out where to build from. It must be hard for any GM to figure out what to do when your beginning pieces are Dun/Murph/Jrich + signed oft-injured backup guard you got from the Spurs + Latvian project.

    But '05 and '06 have shown that Mullin is trying to build more balance in our roster since trades and free agent signings may have been difficult. My hope is that if Ike can be a similar scorer like Jrich (only more points because of going to the free throw line and making it a lot more), then I think we have a direction. This is the inside/outside play that we needed to have. Even running teams have this and since we tried to be a high scoring running team without one, I bashed Mullin because of him standing pat in '05 and still sticking with Dun/Murphy/Foyle frontline and Freshmen or Sophmore rookie projects.

    But the fact Mullin has been beefing up the roster with big men is where I'm positive about this organization. It's that Mullin is addressing the need to build more of an inside/outside game on offense. He's replacing Murphy and Foyle eventually. If he's keeping Dunleavy, then I don't mind as much because he's got great passing skills, he can handle the ball, and that probably helps things more than it hurts it if guys like Ike/Taft/Biedrins/POB can all score at high %'s inside the paint and play like big men are supposed to.

    But the downside is we still have to wait and see how we do on the defensive end and closing out the 4th quarters. Experience is so underrated among fans, but I believe experience is necessary to make it to the playoffs rather than a bunch of young guys all trying to be developed at once. I also believe players like Mike Dunleavy Jr. have the type of basketball smarts to be wise beyond their years. Maybe some could be said about Ike, but he played the style of ball without plays. I think this team needs some plays because there's too much standing around, not knowing what to do.

    I'd also like to see Ellis play, but him learning at a comfortable pace and getting something of value for Fisher is a priority. Another reason why we all didn't want to see Foyle and Fisher overpaid because now the GM expects the coach to play them. He just signed them big bucks for a long time for a reason!
     
  19. REREM

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    [​IMG] <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Clif25:</div><div class="quote_post">I may be the only one in the world to think this: But I like this current roster, and I believe it is a roster that is as good if not better than most teams in the leauge (though it does have a 'hole" at the SF position).

    I love the back court with Baron Davis and Jason Richardson who have good backups in Monta Ellis, Mickael Pietrus, and in some ways Derek Fisher. The front court is stacked now with depth and tons of prospects. The center position is looking good with Andris Biedrins, Chris Taft, Patrick O'Bryant, Adonal Foyle, and Kosta Perovic. The power forward position is where many matchups can be made. Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu, and Zarko Cabarkapa is not bad. Now that the team/organization knows about the defense of Monta Ellis, and hopefully something changes and Pietrus turns back to normal in his defending abilities on the court as they seemed to leave him last year. This will give the Warriors strong defensive backcourt options. The front court defense also should be pretty good with Andris, POB, and Taft, along with many other very big bodies. We also know the scoring abilities of these players. So really, I am pretty satisfied with the roster right now.

    I will be much more content though if the Warriors are able to find a good back up SF or even better a good starting SF, though I will be fine with a solid SF as a back up too.

    The biggest need for the Warriors is not talent. Remember this team was in almost every game last year, in my honest opinion because of talent. How many close games that were lost last year? What this team needs is leadership. The biggest need for this team is a new head coach, unless if Monty makes gigantic improvements. The Warriors ended the season with almost two different rosters. One roster was the normal 6 of Baron/Jason/Dun/Murph/Foyle that sucked up too many minutes for themself: the second roster was of the young guys like Bynum/Monta/Zarko/Ike/Andris, which received very little playing time, but was able to really shine at the end of the season and in my opinion throughout the season, just not as apparent or appreciated by the coaching staff. Bringing those two squads, almost to say, together will be step number one, aka Montgomery understanding how to use a bench effectively. IMO it will be leadership that will take this team over the hump of this dredged streak of losing.

    Baron Davis/Monta Ellis/Derek Fisher
    Jason Richardson/Mickael Pietrus
    Mike Dunleavy/(offseason addition somehow)
    Troy Murphy/Ike Diogu/Zarko Cabarkapa
    Andris Biedrins/Chris Taft/Patrick O'Bryant/Adonal Foyle/Kosta Perovic</div>
    [​IMG] ...I hardly know what to add since Cliff went and said it like I see it-except for he had no typing errors to confuse things[​IMG]
     
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    ...oh yeah---at some point we do something about SF. J Rich at SF may be one path. We may find a way to get G Wallace,Al Harrington or...maybe something obscure that works out. Pietrus is not out of the running,and perhaps Dunleavy gets consistant overall
     

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