<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Detroit News - Ben Wallace isn't happy with the Pistons initial offer, the Detroit News is reporting. "It was disappointing," he said. "It was not at all what I expected." The Pistons' initial offer was a four-year deal starting at $11.5 million and would pay him $49.6 million over four years. It would make Wallace the highest-paid player on the team next season, eclipsing Rasheed Wallace's salary by $100,000. Pistons president Joe Dumars, reached by e-mail, said he didn't want to negotiate through the newspaper and declined comment. "No, the door's not closed (on the Pistons)," Wallace added. "I know it's a business and they have to run their business." Wallace met with Chicago Bulls general manager John Paxson and coach Scott Skiles in Detroit on Saturday. He characterized the meeting as "real good" but added that no official offer was extended. Reports of the Bulls offering a contract starting at $13 million or $14 million were overstated, as were reports of the Bulls offering a five-year deal. "I ain't looking for more than four years," said Wallace. Wallace said he expects to hear from several other teams, including Washington, New York and Cleveland, as early as today. Since all three are over the cap, a sign and trade would be necessary if Wallace was to leave Detroit.</div> Source
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Goddamn all these NBA players. THeyre so greedy. How can you be dissapointed by $12 million a year!</div> I agree it's disgusting to see them complain about being compensated with a multi-million dollar deal. If getting $1Million less a year is a big deal then Ben Wallace doesn't have the best interest of the team in mind. He's doing a diservice to his team's chance of winning a championship again. The interesting part of the article is Ben only wants a 4 year deal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Goddamn all these NBA players. THeyre so greedy. How can you be dissapointed by $12 million a year!</div> Quoted for its truth value. Like shape said, the team isn't his first priority.
A guy with no offense at all, who was critical of his coach when the team needed him most...and is no longer the defensive/rebounding machine he once was is dissapointed by 12million a year. Wow let him walk
A guys got to look out for the best interest of himself and his family. I don?t blame Wallace at all for trying to get as much money as he can, this is his last opportunity to cash in and give his family a secure future. He is going to look for the best deal he can find. Hopefully, that is with the Bulls.
It's obvious that he's looking for the max from a team and he thought he was going to get it from the Pistons. I'm not surprised with the offer the Pistons made him. To play in a winning situation in Detriot, he already has something established here. Plus, he's 32, and his numbers have declined over the past couple seasons. Can't blame the Pistons.
This coming from a guy for whom "money isnt a problem" I think that maybe its time he moved on, as much as I like Ben, as Shape said, he simply isnt worth a max contract, I'd rather see us go after Joel Pryzbilla than to see Ben sign a contract any bigger than the one offered. Interesting to see Clevelands name in the mix there, I wouldnt mind a sign and trade for Big Z at all.
I don't see Ben re-signing with Detroit. He has every opportunity to go with a young, surging squad in Chicago for more money. The fact is, though the team roster is the same, more or less, these Pistons are not the same as two years ago. They don't play with the same defensive tenacity, their shot selection has worsened and there's very little depth.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">A guys got to look out for the best interest of himself and his family. I don?t blame Wallace at all for trying to get as much money as he can, this is his last opportunity to cash in and give his family a secure future. He is going to look for the best deal he can find. Hopefully, that is with the Bulls.</div> you cant be serious? do you honestly believe he or his family have any financial concern already? if he signed a 30 million dollar contract...never mind a 48million...you think that could be the difference maker in his familys financial security for years to come? its disgusting...its also disapointing that ben wallace has become "one of those" athletes. he and others should take a page out of gilbert's book and jsut say "ill take a pay cut so that we can win".
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you cant be serious? do you honestly believe he or his family have any financial concern already? if he signed a 30 million dollar contract...never mind a 48million...you think that could be the difference maker in his familys financial security for years to come? its disgusting...its also disapointing that ben wallace has become "one of those" athletes. he and others should take a page out of gilbert's book and jsut say "ill take a pay cut so that we can win".</div> I?m not just talking about his immediate family, but generations (grand children, great grand children, etc) the NBA is like any other job if you feel your not getting the money you deserve compared to your peers you will complain. I don?t blame Big Ben at all. As the Tennessee Titans showed this year with the Steve Mcnair situation you need to do what is best for yourself, because this is a business.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I?m not just talking about his immediate family, but generations (grand children, great grand children, etc) the NBA is like any other job if you feel your not getting the money you deserve compared to your peers you will complain. I don?t blame Big Ben at all. As the Tennessee Titans showed this year with the Steve Mcnair situation you need to do what is best for yourself, because this is a business.</div> Weakest excuse ever....30 million dollars is enough for a 100 person family to live on!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I’m not just talking about his immediate family, but generations (grand children, great grand children, etc) the NBA is like any other job if you feel your not getting the money you deserve compared to your peers you will complain. I don’t blame Big Ben at all. As the Tennessee Titans showed this year with the Steve Mcnair situation you need to do what is best for yourself, because this is a business.</div> you see that is where we disagree. the nba is NOT like any other job. unless you consider most jobs pay structure like winning the lottery 3 or 4 times throughout your career. the nba is COMPLETELY different from any other job, aside from pro sports. wallace and his family...extended family would have had no financial concern already...signing in detroit for 48 million would only help cushion them more. i wonder how old you are...since you dont seem to appreciate just how much money ben already has/would have had with another 48mill plus endorsments. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting slpnsld23:</div><div class="quote_post">Weakest excuse ever....30 million dollars is enough for a 100 person family to live on!</div> not to mention the pistons offered 48mill. 30mill was just a number i threw out there because its a HUGE amount of money, and 18 million LESS then he was already offered
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you see that is where we disagree. the nba is NOT like any other job. unless you consider most jobs pay structure like winning the lottery 3 or 4 times throughout your career. the nba is COMPLETELY different from any other job, aside from pro sports. wallace and his family...extended family would have had no financial concern already...signing in detroit for 48 million would only help cushion them more. i wonder how old you are...since you dont seem to appreciate just how much money ben already has/would have had with another 48mill plus endorsments.</div>You see it that way, but if you were in his situation you wouldn?t if you feel you are not being paid up to par for your services no matter what they are you are going to go some where, where they will pay you what your worth. If you see someone who is not as good at you at what you do at work, getting paid more than you, wouldn?t you be pissed ? I would. No matter what you say you really can?t speak about it until your in the situation. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Weakest excuse ever....30 million dollars is enough for a 100 person family to live on!</div> When you file your taxes they take back a lot of that money, so it doesn?t end up being those exact numbers. You can say whatever you want about the excuse, but it is what it is. Big Ben got the money he is worth, and is a Bull. End of story.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">You see it that way, but if you were in his situation you wouldn?t if you feel you are not being paid up to par for your services no matter what they are you are going to go some where, where they will pay you what your worth. If you see someone who is not as good at you at what you do at work, getting paid more than you, wouldn?t you be pissed ? I would. No matter what you say you really can?t speak about it until your in the situation.</div> it boils down to greed and ego. just because someone is making more money then you doesnt mean you have to get into a pissing contest. fact of the matter is the contract situation in the nba isnt like most jobs. and there will always be people making more money. there already are, and always ill be players getting contracts they dont deserve...players making more then others who are better then them, that doesnt mean you deserve more money. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> When you file your taxes they take back a lot of that money, so it doesn?t end up being those exact numbers. You can say whatever you want about the excuse, but it is what it is. Big Ben got the money he is worth, and is a Bull. End of story.</div> whether he's WORTH it is debatable...i dont think he is quite frankly. and im disapionted to learn he's just another greedy athlete. im no longer a ben wallace fan...his actions disgust me. to be honest, i think you only support this because he's on your team now. i really dont get how you can defend greed of this nature, but fair enough
I think Wallace was being greedy here. BKS, take a look at a guy like Udonis Haslem who stayed with Miami for about 6-8 million less than what the Cavs had offered him when he was a free agent.
