Heat Sign WVU's Gansey to 2-year Deal

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  1. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">We learned today that It appears Mike Gansey and Kevin Pittsnogle will be teammates once again.

    Gansey has agreed to a two year contract with the Miami Heat, terms of the agreement have not been released.

    Gansey will play with the Heat's Summer League team in Orlando next week. That is the same team that Kevin Pittsnogle has agreed to play for. The difference is that Pittsnogle has not yet been offered any kind of contract with the Heat. </div>

    http://wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=12010
     
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    That's a nice pickup, Gansey was one of the undrafted guys everyone was kind eyeing. He could turn out to be a pretty good player for them.
     
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    Why would they do this, and still pick up the option on Kapono?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rocket:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would they do this, and still pick up the option on Kapono?</div>
    Gansey's a point guard.
     
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    No, actually he's just a 6'4 SG with no PG skills.
     
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    Wait, my bad... lol I thought his rebounds were assists per game... So he's a undersized SG, who was listed at F?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, my bad... lol I thought his rebounds were assists per game... So he's a undersized SG, who was listed at F?</div>

    Yeah, he played on the wing at West Virginia. He's short, unathletic, and is two or three years older than the average NBA rookie, but with all of that aside, he's a hell of a basketball player. In fact, you could make an argument that he's the best shooter in the entire draft, possibly even better than J.J. Redick. Obviously on a national championship team like the Heat, he won't play a major role, but he's a nice asset to have in crunch time.
     
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    Nice signing, he was arguably the best undrafted player in the draft. You can't have enough shooters with Shaq on your roster.
     
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    I didn't think they needed this, they barely used Derek Anderson and Jason Kapono as mere spot up shooters. You still have James Posey, I think, anyway.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, he played on the wing at West Virginia. He's short, unathletic, and is two or three years older than the average NBA rookie, but with all of that aside, he's a hell of a basketball player. In fact, you could make an argument that he's the best shooter in the entire draft, possibly even better than J.J. Redick. Obviously on a national championship team like the Heat, he won't play a major role, but he's a nice asset to have in crunch time.</div>
    I would if he shot a better percentage at the line, his FT% is very dissapointing for a guy like him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I would if he shot a better percentage at the line, his FT% is very dissapointing for a guy like him.</div>
    That's weird..
    <u>FT Percentage:</u>
    02-03: .833
    03-04: Did not play
    04-05: .704
    05-06: .686

    He kept dropping. Shot pretty good his freshmen year, but then kept dropping.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I would if he shot a better percentage at the line, his FT% is very dissapointing for a guy like him.</div>

    That's extremely misleading. While he puts up such mediocre numbers from the line, he shot 55% from the field, with the majority of his shots coming from mid-range or further, and he shot 43% from downtown. He's more dangerous as a jumpshooter than as a stationary shooter, if that makes any sense, because he's got an extremely quick release, quicker than the one Redick has, and that makes him more dangerous coming off of screens than shooting from a static position like from the line. So while Redick may have better form and may stay more consistent with his form, Gansey's got a more NBA-ready type jumper because of how quick he gets his shot off. They're also both very comparable in terms of shooting off screens and in terms of range, so I really stand by that statement about him being arguably a better shooter than Redick.

    The fact that his free-throw shooting percentage declined throughout his college career is normal. As freshman become sophomores and then juniors, they get more playing time, they get to the line more, and because of that there's a greater chance they won't shoot as high of percentages. For example, J.J. Redick, one of the greatest free-throw shooters in college basketball history, went from a 95% free-throw shooter his sophomore year to a 94% free-throw shooter his junior year and then plummeted to a 86% free-throw shooter this past season.
     
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    Gansey is a good player, it was surprising to see him go undrafted. Putting the numbers aside, he's a sensational shooter. He's not that athletic, but the bottom line is that the kid can shoot the lights out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">That's extremely misleading. While he puts up such mediocre numbers from the line, he shot 55% from the field, with the majority of his shots coming from mid-range or further, and he shot 43% from downtown. He's more dangerous as a jumpshooter than as a stationary shooter, if that makes any sense, because he's got an extremely quick release, quicker than the one Redick has, and that makes him more dangerous coming off of screens than shooting from a static position like from the line. So while Redick may have better form and may stay more consistent with his form, Gansey's got a more NBA-ready type jumper because of how quick he gets his shot off. They're also both very comparable in terms of shooting off screens and in terms of range, so I really stand by that statement about him being arguably a better shooter than Redick.

    The fact that his free-throw shooting percentage declined throughout his college career is normal. As freshman become sophomores and then juniors, they get more playing time, they get to the line more, and because of that there's a greater chance they won't shoot as high of percentages. For example, J.J. Redick, one of the greatest free-throw shooters in college basketball history, went from a 95% free-throw shooter his sophomore year to a 94% free-throw shooter his junior year and then plummeted to a 86% free-throw shooter this past season.</div>
    I'm not talking about his drop in percentage. What I'm talking about is the fact that he can't be the best overall shooter if he shoots so poorly at the line. FT shooting is part of shooting ability too, unless you mean <u>jumpshooter</u>, then okay, but shooter in general, you can't be a bad FT shooter and be the best shooter. If we're looking at the league's best shooters, we have guys like Peja, Ray Allen, Nash, Dirk all shooting at least close to 90% at the line. Now if you say jumpshooter, of course you have a guy like Kobe then come into the picture.

    About the FT's though I've actually always felt that I shot better with more attempts, though it depends I guess. For example, if you take 3 FT's a game, you really have no room for error, because when you're taking so few, every miss will hurt your percentage. Now if you're taking like 7 a game, if you miss one, you're still in the 88% range, and if you have a game where you just blunder and shoot like 5-10, it won't hurt you as much as opposed to if you were only averaging 3 a game. It could be a fatigue thing though, shooting more FT's while tired, but I've always personally found my percentages are higher when I shoot more FT's.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not talking about his drop in percentage. What I'm talking about is the fact that he can't be the best overall shooter if he shoots so poorly at the line. FT shooting is part of shooting ability too, unless you mean <u>jumpshooter</u>, then okay, but shooter in general, you can't be a bad FT shooter and be the best shooter. If we're looking at the league's best shooters, we have guys like Peja, Ray Allen, Nash, Dirk all shooting at least close to 90% at the line. Now if you say jumpshooter, of course you have a guy like Kobe then come into the picture.

    About the FT's though I've actually always felt that I shot better with more attempts, though it depends I guess. For example, if you take 3 FT's a game, you really have no room for error, because when you're taking so few, every miss will hurt your percentage. Now if you're taking like 7 a game, if you miss one, you're still in the 88% range, and if you have a game where you just blunder and shoot like 5-10, it won't hurt you as much as opposed to if you were only averaging 3 a game. It could be a fatigue thing though, shooting more FT's while tired, but I've always personally found my percentages are higher when I shoot more FT's.</div>

    Agreed on the whole jumpshooter point. That would have been a better term to use for Gansey, but it's not like he's anything close to a liability from the line, just a little sporadic.

    As for the more or less free-throws argument, I can see your point of view, but it's just a common trend for a player's free-throw percentages to decline as his collegiate career goes on, and that's why I pointed it out. Of course, it's not always the case, as some players make a conscious effort to improve that aspect of their game, but more often than not you'll see that happen.
     

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