<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">What blueprint? Bulls better than Nets last season? Bulls didn't even get to the second round...or have a better regular season record. If they were so much better, they could of taken the Heat out of the playoffs but they didn't. Why didn't Chicago follow their own "blueprint" and beat the Heat?</div> The Bulls exposed the Heats inability to stop penetration. And with Jefferson, Kidd, and carter people thought it was gonna be a ruff series for the Heat. But after game 1 the Nets dropped 4 in a row. In regular season play the bulls beat the Nets in that series of games. My question to you is "did you or did you not think the nets would be able to exploit antoine walker and Jason williams mismatches more often?" In my opinion the Bulls have a far greater mental toughness than the Nets do. we won games against the heat with every mismatch in the heats favor.
Until I see the Bulls play next season, I am not saying that they are a better team than the Nets. Who plays better, has a better record, and gets farther in the playoffs will determine which team is truely better. A full season, and playoffs will show the better team. Bulls may look like a better team on paper, but that doesn't they will be. The Bulls exposed the Heats inability to stop penetration. And with Jefferson, Kidd, and carter people thought it was gonna be a ruff series for the Heat. But after game 1 the Nets dropped 4 in a row. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In regular season play the bulls beat the Nets in that series of games. My question to you is "did you or did you not think the nets would be able to exploit antoine walker and Jason williams mismatches more often?" In my opinion the Bulls have a far greater mental toughness than the Nets do. we won games against the heat with every mismatch in the heats favor.</div> Why does it matter? You didn't beat them and get farther in the playoffs, you put up a fight just like the others and you lost. You can say that you lost better than us, because it doesn't make sense. As for regular season games, you won 2-3 which is good but playoffs are different. Nets play on a different level and you can't just determine they would lose to the Bulls. Nets were whoopin the Heat in the regular season, but in the playoffs things changed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Until I see the Bulls play next season, I am not saying that they are a better team than the Nets. Who plays better, has a better record, and gets farther in the playoffs will determine which team is truely better. A full season, and playoffs will show the better team. Bulls may look like a better team on paper, but that doesn't they will be.</div> I argued the fact that the Bulls would beat the Nets in a series. They beat the nets in regular season and had a better series versus the Heat. Okay you made it to the second round beating the Pacers? that makes the nets better? So your saying if the Bulls PLayed the Pacers in the first round and won. and the Nets played the Heat in the first round and loss the Bulls would be better? To end this, if the bulls were even close to the Nets Last year this year they are better. therefore they are better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">I argued the fact that the Bulls would beat the Nets in a series. They beat the nets in regular season and had a better series versus the Heat. Okay you made it to the second round beating the Pacers? that makes the nets better? So your saying if the Bulls PLayed the Pacers in the first round and won. and the Nets played the Heat in the first round and loss the Bulls would be better? To end this, if the bulls were even close to the Nets Last year this year they are better. therefore they are better.</div> Ok your saying that the Bulls would beat that Nets in a series? How do you know that? Is it because Bulls won the regular season meetings? Playoffs are different and teams play on a higher level. Once again Nets were whoppin Heat during the regular season but that changed during the playoffs. Why? Because they starting playing on a higher level. You just can't say the Nets would of lost to the Bulls in series, because you don't know that for sure.
Hard to say, but I'm going with the Nets being the better team being more experienced and having the best trio in the league right now. The Bulls are looking dangerous with the acquisition of Ben Wallace, but the Nets still have Kidd, a player who I still regard as the best point guard in the league (yes, over Nash). Vince Carter while shooting a mediocre 43% from the field last season is still amongst the league's top players of potent scorers. When he puts his mind to it he's one of the few players who are simply unstoppable. Jefferson is a consistent all-around player who is more than capable of handling the scoring load. He also rebounds well and plays solid defense. The addition of the Nets' rookies will make them more dangerous. Marcus Williams won't see too many minutes at point, but he'll be a solid backup for Kidd and Boone will just add more on the interior defense. The Nets were the sixth best defensive team in terms of points allowed per game and even with the addition of Ben Wallace, the Bulls won't be that much better than the Nets, if better at all. The Bulls could very well be a better team than the Nets next season, but as of now I'm reluctant to rate them higher than the Nets who have already proven themselves. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">I argued the fact that the Bulls would beat the Nets in a series. They beat the nets in regular season and had a better series versus the Heat. Okay you made it to the second round beating the Pacers? that makes the nets better? So your saying if the Bulls PLayed the Pacers in the first round and won. and the Nets played the Heat in the first round and loss the Bulls would be better? To end this, if the bulls were even close to the Nets Last year this year they are better. therefore they are better.</div> Beating a team during the regular season and beating them in the postseason are two different things, so you can't assume a team that won in the regular season will replicate that same success in the playoffs. And because the Bulls did better than the Nets doesn't mean they are a better team either. The Bulls might match up better against the Heat, but that doesn't mean they are better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post"> Beating a team during the regular season and beating them in the postseason are two different things, so you can't assume a team that won in the regular season will replicate that same success in the playoffs. And because the Bulls did better than the Nets doesn't mean they are a better team either. The Bulls might match up better against the Heat, but that doesn't mean they are better.</div> Thats my point the bulls didnt match up to the heat well or even better. we were out matched and out sized in every position. The Nets were more equiped to beat the heat. Thats what makes chicago a better team they are tuffer than the Nets. Explain how the bulls matched up better than the Nets? I believe that 90 percent of JBB would say that the nets matched up better than any team if compared to the bulls. Okay you had advantages all over the place. 1.) Kidd is a far superior guard than Williams. 2,) Vince cant be held by anyone when he want to be agressive. 3.) Posey cant hold Jefferson. What im saying here is that you guys shoulve won more than 1 game. Chicago won 2 in a row while being outmatched at every position. Its not always the names or talent that makes a team better its your determination and mental tuffness. And that is why chicago is a better team. We were out matched at every position and gave one of the second or third best series to watch in the entire playoffs.
The Nets have thrre things that the Bulls don't have and that is, the best PG in the game today, a shooting guard who is unstoppable when on fire (ask the Heat), and they have a small forward who I believe is currently the best player in the league who was'nt been an all-star yet. The Bulls guards are'nt big enough or strong enough to contain Kidd and Carter. Jason Collins is a great post defender. Krstic is young and will still develop to be one of the best big men in the game today. The bottomline is that Chicago might have a better frontline but the Nets have a much better backcourt and more experince in the playoffs then the Bulls.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay you had advantages all over the place. 1.) Kidd is a far superior guard than Williams. 2,) Vince cant be held by anyone when he want to be agressive. 3.) Posey cant hold Jefferson.</div>The fact was that we did not have many advantages. Numbers one and three are fair, but Wade at this stage can be considered superior to Vince. What else? We had less depth, less firepower, less frontcourt help, and arguably less experience. The reason we won only one game was because the Nets had a horrendous offensive showing during the series. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">What im saying here is that you guys shoulve won more than 1 game. Chicago won 2 in a row while being outmatched at every position. Its not always the names or talent that makes a team better its your determination and mental tuffness. And that is why chicago is a better team. We were out matched at every position and gave one of the second or third best series to watch in the entire playoffs.</div>By your logic, you're saying that last season the Bulls were just as good a team as the Pistons, because both series went to six games. You also seem to forgot that the Heat were only starting to put the pieces together and mesh during their playoff run. They were improving, looking sharper and stronger as each game passed by. You can also say the Heat were more prepared for the Nets, while the Bulls caught them off guard. The Big Ben signing and the draft choices makes me slightly lean toward the Bulls. However, there's no doubt that the Nets were the better team this past season.
