Lakers Bynum Far From Filling Big Shoes

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  1. Moo2K4

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    In my opinion, it's going to be easier for a shooting guard or small forward to come in to this league and succeed at an early age as opposed to a big. All they have to do is have a semi-consistent jumper and some athleticism and they can come in and produce around 10 pts or so, maybe more if they're given the opportunity. However, when you're a big, you have to come into this league and either be an athletic freak (note Tyson Chandler, KG) or have a ton of strength (note Shaq). Bynum really didn't have either. While he is a good athlete, he wasn't very strong coming into the league. His body wasn't ready for him to be playing at that moment. He was far too weak and would have been abused in the post. However, he has since improved that. But, that was a huge thing that didn't help his cause with getting minutes, aside from the fact that Phil doesn't like playing rookies. However, since he's been improving his strength and working out, I expect him to get a lot more burn for this upcoming season and we should see a decent sized jump in his production...hopefully.
     
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    What's with all these JO comparison's? for every JO there's 10 Diop's or Kwame Browns. JO is one example you can't believe every young big man will turn into him. also bynum's size is mis-leading he's got the height but he may actually need to lose weight than gain it, look how shedding pounds has actually helped diop.
     
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    TBM you have obvious bias.

    To say he is going to get 20+, 10+, and 2+ is nuts....straight up bro I would say your crazy.

    He has potential yes but how many other big men are there in the league that have potential? That have size? That have weight? Please.....Saying he is 7 foot and 300 pounds may sound great but that doesn't mean he'll add up. Also just because you are taught by a great doesn't mean you'll become a great. I'm not downing the kid but he hasn't proven **** to me, or you guys for that matter. He dunked on Shaq? Wow. So what? Ariza dunked on Big Ben, does that mean he'll be in the dunk contest and be a J-Rich? Hell no. He lifted weights and got bigger? Wow. Tyson Chandler is lifting weights and working on his offensive game, does that mean he'll be dominate next year? Hell no. Going on this whole potential thing is bull, especially hearing it from you TBM. I remember you shooting me down because I said Wafer had potential.

    Nothing is certain in NBA or the world for that matter. Stop acting like you know whats going to happen when you don't have a damn clue. Its harsh, sorry, but it had to be said.

    The kid has potential. I do think, contrary to what some may think, that he will become a dominant center in the league. The thing is though, he will not become a dominant center anytime soon.
     
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    i think we should just send him to the d league he barely helps this team
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philip2136:</div><div class="quote_post">i think we should just send him to the d league he barely helps this team</div>
    Why? The D-League is B rated talent. He will develop faster if we let him stay on the roster and practice with our team. Keep in mind that although he doesn't get much playing time, in practices he goes up against guys like Mihm and Brown.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Why? The D-League is B rated talent. He will develop faster if we let him stay on the roster and practice with our team. Keep in mind that although he doesn't get much playing time, in practices he goes up against guys like Mihm and Brown.</div>

    Mihm and Brown are also B level Talent. There is nothing special about either of them. In the D-league he would at least build some confidence. In the NBA He wont get any playing time. If you think practicing with Brown will improve your game your Nutts!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Mihm and Brown are also B level Talent. There is nothing special about either of them. In the D-league he would at least build some confidence. In the NBA He wont get any playing time. If you think practicing with Brown will improve your game your Nutts!</div>
    Mihm and Brown are 10xs better than any player in the D-League. Mihm is a top 15-20 center in the NBA. How can you say he is B level talent? The guy is a solid player. You obviously know nothing about Kwame. Although he has been somewhat of a disappointment, he has really improved last season. The guy is a terrific defensive player and he has shut down guys like Tim Duncan and KG. It's obvious to me that Bynum will improve more when going up against guys like Mihm and Brown as opposed to some D-League player who can't even make an NBA roster
     
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    Mihm is a top 15- 20 center? LOL and what does that mean? there arent any centers left in the league.

    True centers
    Brad miller*
    SHaq*
    Howard* Will play PF but is a true center.
    Yao*
    NeNe?
    Curry?
    After those guys and maybe a few I missed It doesnt matter any more. The Talent/ potential level Just plummets.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Mihm is a top 15- 20 center? LOL and what does that mean? there arent any centers left in the league.

    True centers
    Brad miller*
    SHaq*
    Howard* Will play PF but is a true center.
    Yao*
    NeNe?
    Curry?
    After those guys and maybe a few I missed It doesnt matter any more. The Talent/ potential level Just plummets.</div>
    The guy averages 10 points per game, 6 boards, and 1 block. You don't call that something? Does that just make him another scrub? Mihm has 10x as much talent as any center you will ever find in the D-League. For Bynum to be going up against Mihm and Kwame everyday at practice, he is sure to progress and improve more than if you send him to the D-League. Sure, in the D-League he will dominate and probably gain a lot of confidence, but that doesn't mean crap because he won't be facing anyone challenging. It's just like saying for me to go up against some preschool kids. Of course I will dominate and be like an MVP. But then you put me up against a starter in our high school varsity, and I'll get killed. But if I practice with the varisty team, gradually I will improve and get better. The same goes with Bynum. It's better for him to be playing with the "big boys."
     

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