Patrick O'Bryant demonstrates two hook shots. Finesse skills look great!!! Patrick O'Bryant turn around midrange jumper and dunk
I will like to watch O'Bryant and Diogu work on their post moves together. O'Bryant looked pretty good there. He may need to work on making quicker and stronger moves in the future.
Yeah for sure. The tv commentator was also pretty impressed because few nba guys do that move and can make it. Also important, O'bryant needs to develop some basketball instincts. Guys who saw him say he gets pretty lost and already makes up his mind to what he's about to do, rather than reading the defense and reacting to it. If this guy become Eddy Curry in terms of offense and nothing else on defense or rebounding, I'm going to be pissed. We know he can block shots at least...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">If this guy become Eddy Curry in terms of offense and nothing else on defense or rebounding, I'm going to be pissed. We know he can block shots at least...</div> Usually the SL coaches tell you what they want to see from you. Especially if you're not doing something right, they'll tell you right away. I have to guess that they wanted POB to show what he could do on offense. The other players fed him a lot of balls. On "O," POB had problems when he got the ball up high. Hopefully, he'll get better with that part of the game when he starts playing with regular teammates and has plays called for him. What bothers me about this is Monty. He doesn't call too many plays during games, so if POB is out there he may get lost and not get the help he needs. Yeah, the above was a cheap dig at Monty but couldn't resist Still, it doesn't mean that the SL coaches didn't want to see his bread-and-butter rebounding and defense along with his blocked shots. I think POB went after more balls and got rebounds as the SL progressed. What he didn't do as well was play D. He looked slow to react, so he may need some help when others come at him. The NBA will definitely find and exploit any weaknesses.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah for sure. The tv commentator was also pretty impressed because few nba guys do that move and can make it. Also important, O'bryant needs to develop some basketball instincts. Guys who saw him say he gets pretty lost and already makes up his mind to what he's about to do, rather than reading the defense and reacting to it. If this guy become Eddy Curry in terms of offense and nothing else on defense or rebounding, I'm going to be pissed. We know he can block shots at least...</div> If cheesecakes turned into Eddy Curry, I'd be pretty happy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jason voorhees:</div><div class="quote_post"> What bothers me about this is Monty. He doesn't call too many plays during games, so if POB is out there he may get lost and not get the help he needs. Yeah, the above was a cheap dig at Monty but couldn't resist </div> Couldn't disagree more. It's the players that don't run them (the point guard conducting the team offense in particular) and the team doesn't practice enough to make the ones that work more effective. I've seen several easy points scored on inbounds plays and that was using simple motion strategies with the opposing defense right there. Now if the Warriors had a point guard who could actually call out the plays, recognize where the offensive mismatch is, and the team is actually executing rather than standing around or jogging, we could score more easily than we are now than by settling for threes early on or when the clock is almost out. Also, let's not forget POB is not a scorer or a decision-maker, yet. What makes any coach want to run a play through him if he can't be somewhat dynamic or creative when the play must be broken off? When was the last time we had any big player who could make good decisions with the ball, be creative if the play isn't there, and actually score from anywhere or in a variety of ways? POB, Biedrins, Taft, all these guys aren't scorers. But Ike is a student of the game that can adapt outside of the playbook. In fact, he doesn't even need plays, but if he knows plays, he has the potential to make other players around him better IMO because he'll know where his teammates are moving to. Even a decent scoring guy like Murphy isn't that type of player Ike Diogu is even without Ike's post game. Different mentalities, aside from having much different abilities and fundamentals. The same smartness is what makes guys like Tim Duncan, Lebron James, and Kevin Garnett so good, even if they only had one good physical attribute as a mismatch like strength or athleticism, but not both like many of them do. That's why I tend to agree with REREM's philosophy of choosing the best upside and nba readiness when it comes to any player. The exception is POB/Biedrins because polished centers with some upside, are so hard to find around the #8 to #11 pick. Both their offensive games and their understanding of team basketball need to get better if we want to compete for reals. Even mostly defensive centers like Alonzo Mourning should be able to score on at least two or three power moves or shoot the 15-18 footer if they lack a post game like Marcus Camby or Ben Wallace. We have to settle down with the hype on Biedrins and POB because neither of them are that ready. Once they get more minutes as centers, the scrutiny on them will be a lot higher.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">If cheesecakes turned into Eddy Curry, I'd be pretty happy.</div> I wouldn't. Eddy Curry is uber one-dimensional. If Eddy Curry was so hot, his impact on the Knicks would have been a lot greater. The center is supposed to clean up the offensive/defensive glass, dominate the paint on the defensive end, help pass the ball outside (or in the case of some variation of the Princeton offense, operate from the high post and pass in), and protect weakside. He's got all this strength and athleticism and it's all wasted because the mindset and work ethic isn't there. A lot of times he plays overweight and he's been unprofessional in asking for the max when he hadn't really proved anything, but scoring. Eddy Curry doesn't do much besides turn the ball over, miss free throws, and stop ball movement. His inside impact on offense is great, but only if he has a defensive, rebounding power forward and a decent perimeter defense. Chicago had all those things, but the Knicks definitely don't. I don't know if Ike will ever be a good defender like Elton Brand, so I would hope the future center is an Alonzo Mourning/Emeka Okafor type player. The only reason I pump Ike Diogu so much is because we've never had a player that could rebound/block shots/score inside the paint, catch, pass, shoot and had the strength and footwork to hang at that position, even undersized against 6'11 245 lb players. If Ike is that good, we have to find a center that fits him and our backcourt. Eddy Curry clone wouldn't be it, unless the idea is trade him to the Knicks where they'll give us a first round unprotected pick and another first rounder somewhere.
I don't think POB will be anything like Curry. Curry is (or suppose to be) a monster in the paint and his weaknesses are reboundings, defense and shot blocking. If any, POB may be exact opposite of Curry. Well, new highlight is on. POB was often at the wrong end of highlights, but he was facing Bargnani, so it's understandable. Well, so far, POB is long, has decent speed for center, looks fluid and needs to improve the strength and quickness...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Curry is (or suppose to be) a monster in the paint and his weaknesses are reboundings, defense and shot blocking. </div> How can you be a "monster" in the paint but be weak in rebounding, defending and shot blocking? No wait, lemme guess -- he's a "monster" passer out of the double team? lol I totally agree with CR2 and the Kwan-meister here -- If Curry were the "baby-Shaq" he would've been busting out with the heavy-weight gloves long ago. He's got potential, and that's nice and all, but I think Todd Fuller had potential too. POB has a more polished hook shot -- an NBA go-to move -- than any move Curry-rice-with-chicken-and-vegetables has right now (WTF was that metaphor?) POB may never see a pair of starter's shorts. He looks like a combination of Popeye Jones mixed with Brian Cook, and that definately weighs against him in terms of poster sales. But assuming he can get past the funky cross-eyed big-eared persona he's sportin, that baby-hook could be friggin baby-Kareem. If POB earns a significant role this year, you gotta figure Mullin's been stashin' a bit more in his top hat than he's been lettin on -- because frankly that'd be a damn fine pick if POB can bank home a sky-hook in traffic with any semblance of consistency.
