Magic 29th in Power Rankings?!

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    Hell 2 the no. The magic have no bench. Bobcats have a strong starting 5 with knight and may comin off the bench your crazy. Magic dont have a bench. And they are younger. Bobcats draft players that are ready to play. And have veteran leadeship from knight. And the nba wants ''Jordans'' team to succeed. They'll have a lot of home court advantage. They play like a team. lots of chemistry. The magic wont make the playoffs until they get a bench.their starting five is decent.I only see them making it on an account of injuries like u said or trevor ariza gets alot better.They are slow with turkeglu.Dont have a def. threat. No slasher.Bogans is not a slasher. Bobcats are done they could make playoffs 8th seed. Magic got easy wins through a weak east. The east is maturing. While orlando is still in the crib(darko,howard,ariza)Oh yeah I love JJ reddick but we havent seen him play in summerleague or any league.Your going off potetial. And ur betting on injuries of opposing teams not a good sign if ya gotta do that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2belaid:</div><div class="quote_post">Hell 2 the no. The magic have no bench. Bobcats have a strong starting 5 with knight and may comin off the bench your crazy. Magic dont have a bench. And they are younger. Bobcats draft players that are ready to play. And have veteran leadeship from knight. And the nba wants ''Jordans'' team to succeed. They'll have a lot of home court advantage. They play like a team. lots of chemistry. The magic wont make the playoffs until they get a bench.their starting five is decent.I only see them making it on an account of injuries like u said or trevor ariza gets alot better.They are slow with turkeglu.Dont have a def. threat. No slasher.Bogans is not a slasher. Bobcats are done they could make playoffs 8th seed. Magic got easy wins through a weak east. The east is maturing. While orlando is still in the crib(darko,howard,ariza)Oh yeah I love JJ reddick but we havent seen him play in summerleague or any league.Your going off potetial. And ur betting on injuries of opposing teams not a good sign if ya gotta do that.</div>
    Actually we have a bench.

    We also beat Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Miami, San Antonio in a span of 3 weeks. Weak teams?


    Face it, you don't know a damn thing about the Magic because you see 4 games a year. Also, I like some of the Bobcats players-- but the team sucks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">Indiana is better than the magic. They had torubles last year, but still have JO and stephen jackson, not to mention granger</div>

    My biased self will say that the Magic are better than the Pacesr, because we won't have to count on 3 players. We have much more balance. Hedo/Jameer/Dwight can all go for monster games and Darko/JJ/Bogans should be able to put up a consistent amount of points(around 10 for each). It all depends on the development of the 2 bigs though and I'm assuming JJ isn't going to start. If he starts we likely won't have a prayer to making the playoffs.

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    Did you read the post that I made that I e-mailed the writer of this a couple of posts back? That will give you all the answeers.

    Now I'll break your post down....
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Hell 2 the no. The magic have no bench. Bobcats have a strong starting 5 with knight and may comin off the bench your crazy. Magic dont have a bench.</div>

    Umm... THe Magic have a stronger starting lineup then the Bobcats. Jameer, Bogans, Hedo, Dwight, Darko. I'm not sure what you mean that the Magic have a horrible bench. It's one of the better benches that we have had in awhile. We don't have a Ben Gordan or a Jerry Stackhouse or anyone off of the bench, but they all know their roles. Battie comes in and gives us hustle and does the little things. Carlos Arroyo sets up the offense, with pretty good shooting. Dooling is the slasher off the bench. JJ is the instant offense. Marcin Gortat is gonna be like Anderson Vareajeo, all hustle off the bench. Not to mention if Grant Hill is back(not counting on it). It's not a top bench or anything, but it's good enough to hold leads, something we haven't had in awhile.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And they are younger. Bobcats draft players that are ready to play. And have veteran leadeship from knight.</div>

    Let's see, Emeka Okafor has missed 63 out of a possible 162 games. Dwight has played in 162 games. Dwight nearly led the league in rebounding. Edge: Orlando. Jameer Nelson, are you saying he wasn't ready to play? Fran, you have a point. JJ Redick is ready to play. Hmm.. Brevin Knight or Grant Hill, Tony Battie. May and Okafor your 2 best big picks have both missed 50+ games in a season. I don't understand what you are talking about....

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And the nba wants ''Jordans'' team to succeed. They'll have a lot of home court advantage.</div>

    They will have 41 games at home just like every other team in the NBA....If they wanted Jordan's team to succeed, then why didn't the Wizards make the playoffs when he was there?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They play like a team. lots of chemistry. The magic wont make the playoffs until they get a bench.their starting five is decent.I only see them making it on an account of injuries like u said or trevor ariza gets alot better.</div>

    How do they have chemistry if their 2 best big men have been injured more than half of their combined games? The Magic are gaining chemistry quicker then the Bobcats. Just look at the Magic's last 22 games last year and that will tell you how quickly our chemistry has improved since getting rid of Francis.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They are slow with turkeglu.Dont have a def. threat. No slasher.Bogans is not a slasher. </div>

    Uhh.. Turkoglu is instant offense. Jameer is a slasher. Turkoglu can slash. Dooling is a slasher. Bogans is in the game for defense, not to create offense for himself. Bogans is a solid defender and what about the 2 monsters downlow? Dwight and Darko are damn good defenders.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bobcats are done they could make playoffs 8th seed.</div>

    I would be hoping for my team to stay healthy and win 25 games before I would talk about playoffs if I was you.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Magic got easy wins through a weak east. </div>

    The Bobcats didn't get wins in the same weak East..... btw, if you look at the teams we beat in that 22 game run you would see San Antonio in San Antonio, Miami, the champs in Miami. Detroit at home. Dallas the national runners up in Orlando. Chicago in Chicago. Oh and against the Lebron's by 29 points in Orlando. So I guess you are right. We haven't beaten anyone.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The east is maturing. While orlando is still in the crib(darko,howard,ariza)</div>

    Better to be in the crib then on the injured list like the Bobcats. Again I will point to the 22 game streak at the end of the season. 16-6 against top notch quality opponents, right when Jameer got healthy and Darko/Arroyo/Ariza gained chemistry with their new teammates.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh yeah I love JJ reddick but we havent seen him play in summerleague or any league.</div>

    Yep I know. I'm not expecting much from him to be honest with you.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Your going off potetial. </div>

    Magic's players have proven more than the Bobcats have, so I don't know why you are saying me and the Magic fans are basing it off of potential and you aren't about the Bobcats.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> And ur betting on injuries of opposing teams not a good sign if ya gotta do that.</div>

    I'm not, if every team was fully healthy, I would still pick us to make the playoffs as a 6th-7th seed.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually we have a bench.

    We also beat Cleveland, Dallas, Detroit, Miami, San Antonio in a span of 3 weeks. Weak teams?


    Face it, you don't know a damn thing about the Magic because you see 4 games a year. Also, I like some of the Bobcats players-- but the team sucks.</div>

    They finished the seson strong your right. They beat teams that had clinched playoff birth that were resting their allstars. And teams tring to get a higher draft pick.they snuck in a few wins.Before march they were at the bottom of the East.
    Your argument is done you LOST!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2belaid:</div><div class="quote_post">They finished the seson strong your right. They beat teams that had clinched playoff birth that were resting their allstars. And teams tring to get a higher draft pick.they snuck in a few wins.Before march they were at the bottom of the East.
    Your argument is done you LOST!!!</div>

    Hmm... Let's look deeper in this. The San Antonio game, their superstar Tim Duncan played 38 minutes with 31 points 13 rebounds 6 assists. Doesn't look to me that they were trying to lose. Don't forget that the Spurs and Mavs were fighting for the #1 seed out West. Against Dallas, Dirk played 44 mins. Miami had Wade play 42 minutes and Shaq 37 mins. Detroit you have a case for, they didn't really play their stars. They were without Rip, but they still played Billups 37 mins. For the Bulls, Hinrich played 40 mins, Deng 38 mins. Against the Cavs, Lebron played 39 mins despite being blown out by 29 points.

    Yeah I guess you are right, I lost this argument. I wish I had your superior debate skills. Please look up facts when you make your arguments in the future.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">My biased self will say that the Magic are better than the Pacesr, because we won't have to count on 3 players. We have much more balance. Hedo/Jameer/Dwight can all go for monster games and Darko/JJ/Bogans should be able to put up a consistent amount of points(around 10 for each). It all depends on the development of the 2 bigs though and I'm assuming JJ isn't going to start. If he starts we likely won't have a prayer to making the playoffs.

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    Did you read the post that I made that I e-mailed the writer of this a couple of posts back? That will give you all the answeers.

    Now I'll break your post down....


    Umm... THe Magic have a stronger starting lineup then the Bobcats. Jameer, Bogans, Hedo, Dwight, Darko. I'm not sure what you mean that the Magic have a horrible bench. It's one of the better benches that we have had in awhile. We don't have a Ben Gordan or a Jerry Stackhouse or anyone off of the bench, but they all know their roles. Battie comes in and gives us hustle and does the little things. Carlos Arroyo sets up the offense, with pretty good shooting. Dooling is the slasher off the bench. JJ is the instant offense. Marcin Gortat is gonna be like Anderson Vareajeo, all hustle off the bench. Not to mention if Grant Hill is back(not counting on it). It's not a top bench or anything, but it's good enough to hold leads, something we haven't had in awhile.



    Let's see, Emeka Okafor has missed 63 out of a possible 162 games. Dwight has played in 162 games. Dwight nearly led the league in rebounding. Edge: Orlando. Jameer Nelson, are you saying he wasn't ready to play? Fran, you have a point. JJ Redick is ready to play. Hmm.. Brevin Knight or Grant Hill, Tony Battie. May and Okafor your 2 best big picks have both missed 50+ games in a season. I don't understand what you are talking about....



    They will have 41 games at home just like every other team in the NBA....If they wanted Jordan's team to succeed, then why didn't the Wizards make the playoffs when he was there?



    How do they have chemistry if their 2 best big men have been injured more than half of their combined games? The Magic are gaining chemistry quicker then the Bobcats. Just look at the Magic's last 22 games last year and that will tell you how quickly our chemistry has improved since getting rid of Francis.



    Uhh.. Turkoglu is instant offense. Jameer is a slasher. Turkoglu can slash. Dooling is a slasher. Bogans is in the game for defense, not to create offense for himself. Bogans is a solid defender and what about the 2 monsters downlow? Dwight and Darko are damn good defenders.



    I would be hoping for my team to stay healthy and win 25 games before I would talk about playoffs if I was you.



    The Bobcats didn't get wins in the same weak East..... btw, if you look at the teams we beat in that 22 game run you would see San Antonio in San Antonio, Miami, the champs in Miami. Detroit at home. Dallas the national runners up in Orlando. Chicago in Chicago. Oh and against the Lebron's by 29 points in Orlando. So I guess you are right. We haven't beaten anyone.



    Better to be in the crib then on the injured list like the Bobcats. Again I will point to the 22 game streak at the end of the season. 16-6 against top notch quality opponents, right when Jameer got healthy and Darko/Arroyo/Ariza gained chemistry with their new teammates.



    Yep I know. I'm not expecting much from him to be honest with you.



    Magic's players have proven more than the Bobcats have, so I don't know why you are saying me and the Magic fans are basing it off of potential and you aren't about the Bobcats.



    I'm not, if every team was fully healthy, I would still pick us to make the playoffs as a 6th-7th seed.</div>
    1.Line up
    Nelson <Felton 1 ouy of 5 eh...
    Bogans < Wallace
    Turkeglu <Morrison Have you not been watching summer league
    Howard > Okaefor !!!!!yeah we got 1
    darko < Brezec
    2.Bench
    Carlos Arroyo Good I like him
    Gortrat Not coming to US for a couple years
    Hill Retired
    JJ Good I like him
    Battie Only good for 15min of hustle Been traded 3 times
    Ariza Not dependable developing

    Rush Who started over bogans last year
    Knight great vet
    May good post presence
    3 good bench players you have 1 b/c bogans isnt a starter and reddick is. bogans is decent like a jumaine jones
    4 Health
    Your basing the magic/Bobcats because of health. Sad.I never said they were healthy. You cant predict injurie. Or else Orlando wouldnt have got Grant hill!!!!!

    Better to be in the crib then on the injured list like the Bobcats....True for a yr.

    Both teams get better by the day but Ariza Howard and Darko are far from there potential.Howard is great now. But I think he could be the best pf in the league.

    Darko Defense??? Hes not a damn good defender.Howard YES!!!

    Final statement
    TheBobcats weakness was....Scoring they adressed that in the draft.Morrison They got alot better.

    Magic did good by gettin jj too spread the floor for Howard.But they had 2 capable shooters in Jameer and turkeglu. They need that slasher that can do it all. Rodney carney Ronnie Brewer would have been a better pick.They still have question marks. (whos gonna gaurd a kobe?? Darko gaurs a Shaq???There backourt is small. their gaurds are below 6-5.Ariza Darko not dependable right now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm... Let's look deeper in this. The San Antonio game, their superstar Tim Duncan played 38 minutes with 31 points 13 rebounds 6 assists. Doesn't look to me that they were trying to lose. Don't forget that the Spurs and Mavs were fighting for the #1 seed out West. Against Dallas, Dirk played 44 mins. Miami had Wade play 42 minutes and Shaq 37 mins. Detroit you have a case for, they didn't really play their stars. They were without Rip, but they still played Billups 37 mins. For the Bulls, Hinrich played 40 mins, Deng 38 mins. Against the Cavs, Lebron played 39 mins despite being blown out by 29 points.

    Yeah I guess you are right, I lost this argument. I wish I had your superior debate skills. Please look up facts when you make your arguments in the future.</div>

    San Antonio game Ginobli didnt play
    Mavs Griffin Daniels and harris didnt play
    MIami Mourning posey or williams didnt play
    Cleveland MAGIC BEAT EM YOUR RIGHT!!!!!
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April

    I did my hw u didnt . I win he he he!!!!!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2belaid:</div><div class="quote_post">1.Line up
    Nelson <Felton 1 ouy of 5 eh...
    Bogans < Wallace
    Turkeglu <Morrison Have you not been watching summer league
    Howard > Okaefor !!!!!yeah we got 1
    darko < Brezec
    2.Bench
    Carlos Arroyo Good I like him
    Gortrat Not coming to US for a couple years
    Hill Retired
    JJ Good I like him
    Battie Only good for 15min of hustle Been traded 3 times
    Ariza Not dependable developing

    Rush Who started over bogans last year
    Knight great vet
    May good post presence
    3 good bench players you have 1 b/c bogans isnt a starter and reddick is. bogans is decent like a jumaine jones
    4 Health
    Your basing the magic/Bobcats because of health. Sad.I never said they were healthy. You cant predict injurie. Or else Orlando wouldnt have got Grant hill!!!!!

    Better to be in the crib then on the injured list like the Bobcats....True for a yr.

    Both teams get better by the day but Ariza Howard and Darko are far from there potential.Howard is great now. But I think he could be the best pf in the league.

    Darko Defense??? Hes not a damn good defender.Howard YES!!!

    Final statement
    TheBobcats weakness was....Scoring they adressed that in the draft.Morrison They got alot better.

    Magic did good by gettin jj too spread the floor for Howard.But they had 2 capable shooters in Jameer and turkeglu. They need that slasher that can do it all. Rodney carney Ronnie Brewer would have been a better pick.They still have question marks. (whos gonna gaurd a kobe?? Darko gaurs a Shaq???There backourt is small. their gaurds are below 6-5.Ariza Darko not dependable right now.</div>

    Wallace is going to be your SG? I figured Morrison would be SG and Wallace would be SF. So how well do you think Morrison will be? I wouldn't expect too much out of him this year.

    Alright well with your starting lineup that you have there.
    -I would say Jameer/Felton is a toss up at best for the Bobcats. Jameer was amazing in his 1st chance to start. I like Felton, but Jameer was really damn good.
    -No arguments with Wallace over Bogans.
    -I don't think you can say that Morrison is already better than Hedo. Hedo is better defensively and is longer plus has proven he can put up 15 ppg in a long season. I do think Morrison will be a great player, but I would give the advantage to Hedo this year.
    -Dwight over Okafor.
    -I agree. Brezec over Darko. Brezec always tears us up, but Darko is a much better defender. I highly expect Darko to get similar numbers to what Brezec got last year, but Brezec will improve too. This is the same, but opposite of the Morrison comparison. I think Brezec will be better this year, but Darko will be better in the future.
    -So I would go with a 2-2 and a toss up. Dwight over Emeka will be a big difference and Wallace over Bogans will be a big advantage. Darko/Brezec will be close and I think Hedo/Morrison will be a little farther than what you think in Hedo's favor for this year.

    About the bench. Ours is deeper, but yours is more top heavy. There is a difference. Arroyo, Dooling, Ariza, Battie with JJ and Grant Hill for a couple of games(if you say May, then i can say Grant Hill) is a quality bench. We are more defensive minded of a bench then most, which will keep you in games. We should be able to stay in games with this bench, unlike what we have been doing. We are still talking about what to do with Gortat and I think we'll probably keep him after his summer league and try to cut/trade/put on injured list Garrity. btw, we chose Bogans over Kareem Rush this offseason. We were targetting both.

    No, I'm not basing the Magic over Bobcats on just health. I'm just saying if you are counting on your team to be a playoff contender, despite having your 2 best post players with injuriess that made them miss 55+ games last year. I really hope you guys are healthy and better, but I just don't see them better than the Magic.

    Ariza, Dwight, Darko are pretty far from their potential, but they still produced for the Magic last year and the chemistry on our roster is superb.

    Darko not good defense? What are you joking? He's a way better defender then Dwight is. That's where he made his mark the most last year on the defensive end. He has potential to be a 3-4 bpg type player in the future.

    Your weakness was scoring? Is it that simple to turn a 26-56 team into a playoff contender? Even though you added scoring, you subtract some defense from your starting lineup. I do think that Morrison will be most effective with a defensive stopper like Gerald Wallace alongside him, so that's great for the Bobcats.

    I do agree with you there. I would much rather of had Ronnie Brewer then JJ Redick in the draft. We're hoping that Bogans will be able to be a good defensive player and could help contain Kobe/Tmac/D Wade's. You can't stop them, just try to do enough to allow them to take over a game down the stretch. We're also hoping Ariza will develop more of an offensive game and hopefully will be able to move him into the starting lineup for the guarding the best wing.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">Indiana is better than the magic. They had torubles last year, but still have JO and stephen jackson, not to mention granger</div>
    For an offseason ranking, I think the Magic currently have more momentum than the Pacers. They showed more promise towards the end of the season. And Indiana just lost their second best player to free agency. The Pacers may turn out to be the better team, but I think the Magic have more reason to be optimistic for this coming season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheNCAA:</div><div class="quote_post">Wallace is going to be your SG? I figured Morrison would be SG and Wallace would be SF. So how well do you think Morrison will be? I wouldn't expect too much out of him this year.

    Alright well with your starting lineup that you have there.
    -I would say Jameer/Felton is a toss up at best for the Bobcats. Jameer was amazing in his 1st chance to start. I like Felton, but Jameer was really damn good.
    -No arguments with Wallace over Bogans.
    -I don't think you can say that Morrison is already better than Hedo. Hedo is better defensively and is longer plus has proven he can put up 15 ppg in a long season. I do think Morrison will be a great player, but I would give the advantage to Hedo this year.
    -Dwight over Okafor.
    -I agree. Brezec over Darko. Brezec always tears us up, but Darko is a much better defender. I highly expect Darko to get similar numbers to what Brezec got last year, but Brezec will improve too. This is the same, but opposite of the Morrison comparison. I think Brezec will be better this year, but Darko will be better in the future.
    -So I would go with a 2-2 and a toss up. Dwight over Emeka will be a big difference and Wallace over Bogans will be a big advantage. Darko/Brezec will be close and I think Hedo/Morrison will be a little farther than what you think in Hedo's favor for this year.

    About the bench. Ours is deeper, but yours is more top heavy. There is a difference. Arroyo, Dooling, Ariza, Battie with JJ and Grant Hill for a couple of games(if you say May, then i can say Grant Hill) is a quality bench. We are more defensive minded of a bench then most, which will keep you in games. We should be able to stay in games with this bench, unlike what we have been doing. We are still talking about what to do with Gortat and I think we'll probably keep him after his summer league and try to cut/trade/put on injured list Garrity. btw, we chose Bogans over Kareem Rush this offseason. We were targetting both.

    No, I'm not basing the Magic over Bobcats on just health. I'm just saying if you are counting on your team to be a playoff contender, despite having your 2 best post players with injuriess that made them miss 55+ games last year. I really hope you guys are healthy and better, but I just don't see them better than the Magic.

    Ariza, Dwight, Darko are pretty far from their potential, but they still produced for the Magic last year and the chemistry on our roster is superb.

    Darko not good defense? What are you joking? He's a way better defender then Dwight is. That's where he made his mark the most last year on the defensive end. He has potential to be a 3-4 bpg type player in the future.

    Your weakness was scoring? Is it that simple to turn a 26-56 team into a playoff contender? Even though you added scoring, you subtract some defense from your starting lineup. I do think that Morrison will be most effective with a defensive stopper like Gerald Wallace alongside him, so that's great for the Bobcats.

    I do agree with you there. I would much rather of had Ronnie Brewer then JJ Redick in the draft. We're hoping that Bogans will be able to be a good defensive player and could help contain Kobe/Tmac/D Wade's. You can't stop them, just try to do enough to allow them to take over a game down the stretch. We're also hoping Ariza will develop more of an offensive game and hopefully will be able to move him into the starting lineup for the guarding the best wing.</div>
    IM not gonna argue eith the starting lineups its a tossup.
    Im not gonna argue wth darkos defense he is a good shot blocker. But they havent let him play long minutes. And you dont see him in the 4th quater

    The magic have depth at pg arrroyo jameer
    None at 2 gaurd
    sf ariza isnt good yet just turkey
    pf /C Darko Howard
    not a good bench Tonie battie is not good.hes ok. I say that cause he hustles which is nice to have. Does the little things cause he lacks skill.Dooling has too many to's i like him though.Just wouldnt put him in the
    4th quater. In the 4th there youth gets em. They lost a lot of close games. Their young players dont play as well in the 4th . Ariza isnt good yet
    GRANT HILL IS RETIRED!!!!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2belaid:</div><div class="quote_post">San Antonio game Ginobli didnt play
    Mavs Griffin Daniels and harris didnt play
    MIami Mourning posey or williams didnt play
    Cleveland MAGIC BEAT EM YOUR RIGHT!!!!!
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April

    I did my hw u didnt . I win he he he!!!!!!!</div>

    Gator watcha ya think of this???
     
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    Stop arguing with this Bobcat fan troll. He's just upset that his team sucks so much, so he has to go flame other team's boards
     
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    Vintage Defeating Communism...

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    Question for eager2bewrong:

    Why did you say Darko isn't good at defense?

    A. Because you have no clue
    B. You have never watched him play
    C. Because he is white
    D. Because he is European
    E. Because of C and D
    F. Because Larry Brown wouldn't play him
    G. All of the Above
    H. None of the above (insert your own "wrong" answer)

    Personally, my guess is a combination of A, B, and E.

    While I doubt Darko will ever win a DPOY award, he is a good defender.
     
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    eager2belaid JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Vintage:</div><div class="quote_post">Question for eager2bewrong:

    Why did you say Darko isn't good at defense?

    A. Because you have no clue
    B. You have never watched him play
    C. Because he is white
    D. Because he is European
    E. Because of C and D
    F. Because Larry Brown wouldn't play him
    G. All of the Above
    H. None of the above (insert your own "wrong" answer)

    Personally, my guess is a combination of A, B, and E.

    While I doubt Darko will ever win a DPOY award, he is a good defender.</div>
    I.

    I think hes ok he can block shots with the best if em. I wouldnt be dependant on his d. HE is a greatweak side defender. But he cant contain ayone yet. He dosent play big minutes agaist other big men if you look at his season splits.I hate larry brown.Hes too old schoo. Im not racists.Brad miller is a goord defender. Not as good at weak side def. like milicic but a better defender.

    I dont like the bobcats i just know theyll be better than the magic next year.The magic owned the cats last year3-1. But the cats beat them last .It was a loss that affected why they did not make the playoffs.Magic were better last year. Bobcats this year. I love JJ reddick I think he could be rookie of the year. Howard will be an allstar next year. Nelson is getting better with the rest of em. Both teams have future. But i think Cats are further cause their players are older out of college and they know what it takes to win. I do question the cats desire. 25 wins or 38 wins whatever it dosent matter if you dont make the playoffs.


    forget all of that what teams can you say that the magic are 100% better than.

    ATL MIN TOR maybe CHA
    Please forget everything and answer this question

    <font color=""Blue"">Use the edit button instead of making multiple posts in a row. Also, let's keep this debate mature and on topic.
    -Swish15</font>
     
  15. eager2belaid

    eager2belaid JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck:</div><div class="quote_post">Stop arguing with this Bobcat fan troll. He's just upset that his team sucks so much, so he has to go flame other team's boards</div>


    I dont like the bobcats i just know theyll be better than the magic next year.The magic owned the cats last year3-1. But the cats beat them last .It was a loss that affected why they did not make the playoffs.Magic were better last year. Bobcats this year. I love JJ reddick I think he could be rookie of the year. Howard will be an allstar next year. Nelson is getting better with the rest of em. Both teams have future. But i think Cats are further cause their players are older out of college and they know what it takes to win. I do question the cats desire. 25 wins or 38 wins whatever it dosent matter if you dont make the playoffs.
     
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    eager2belaid JBB JustBBall Member

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    forget all of that what teams can you say that the magic are 100% better than.

    ATL MIN TOR maybe CHA
    Please forget everything and answer this question
     
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    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2belaid:</div><div class="quote_post">San Antonio game Ginobli didnt play
    Mavs Griffin Daniels and harris didnt play
    MIami Mourning posey or williams didnt play
    Cleveland MAGIC BEAT EM YOUR RIGHT!!!!!
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April
    Chicago Beat them in march your right lost critically for a playoff spot in April

    I did my hw u didnt . I win he he he!!!!!!!</div>

    We were out of the playoffs when Chicago beat us in April, anyway. Indiana beat Toronto that night to effectively eliminate us.

    SA, Ginobili was hurt and couldn't play, but you would think a great team like the Spurs could beat a crappy team like the Magic in their house, right with their superstar putting up 30+ and 13 with 6 assists.

    Mavs, Harris and Griffin weren't even on their 12 men roster there, so I overlooked those 2. Harris wasn't really that big until the playoffs either.

    Miami, alright you are right about that one.

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    I have a question for you though. You say that the Magic players aren't good yet and haven't reached their full potential. What proven players do the Bobcats have? Gerald Wallace is good, but he hasn't reached his full potential yet either(if you use that for Dwight, I can use that for Wallace).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eager2beWRONG:</div><div class="quote_post">I.


    I dont like the bobcats i just know theyll be better than the magic next year.</div>

    Link? I mean, if you KNOW its going to happen....it must be a fact.

    So...

    Link?
     
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    Go away and watch some magic games then you can comment on our team. Gotta be one of the worst break downs I have ever seen, clearly evident you either havent watched orlando play or just plain know nothing about basketball, as the people above me have early pointed out eager2belaid.

    As for the comment about our bench; we have one of the best benchs out there, esp if Hill is reasonably healthy and the addition of Redick.

    And yeah we pld a couple of teams without a couple of their key players, oh wait that was 1 team in SA, and that was still a team in their own back yard. I noticed how you missed the other finalist off your list in Dallas, no excuse for that lose eh?

    Oh and for the "critically lost to bulls" comment, we actually couldnt make the playoff's as of b4 that game, so that wasnt even a big issue. So no you didnt do your homework.

    Dont pat yourself for a win before you are acctually acredited for it, makes you look like a idiot.
     
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    smokrockz JBB JustBBall Member

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    Hey eager2belaid, last time i checked you guys lost 13 games in a row at one point last season. Adding morrison is not going to change anything. He is a rookie, he is no Lebron, wade or howard for that matter. Have we been watching summer league, I think Travis Deiner was the one that went for 34 pts. Not to mention morrison is playing against weaker players. I want to see him score against real NBA players before you start saying he is the key to your offense. Bobcats are too young to be good, maybe in a couple years and a free agent or two, they will be a team worth talking about. Right now they are the cupcakes of the NBA...
     

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