What Moves Should Warriors Make If the Al Harrington Deal Falls Through?

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">And he also got cut from the U.S. National Team </div>

Because of a knee injury...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">Because of a knee injury...</div>
Serious???

Man, I guess that's why it's not a good idea to play the guy 40+ minutes a game plus as PF.

The Suns might have screwed up Amare that way playing him at center. All that running and leaning.

 

I don't think it's too serious with Marion, just precautionary, Colangelo still wants his Suns to win more than he cares about USA hoops

 

I just don't understand this one. So we're going to pay 15+ mil a year to have MDJ and Harrington cover the SF position?? Come on. And if the deal added one of our prospects along with Murphy, I'd join the lynch mob. What I want to see is Pietrus used to help us lose Foyle.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">back to the drawing board, Jamaal is rumored to be going to the Blazers.</div>
This is a late reply, but this rumor turned out to be right on since the official news came out.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-b...ov=ap&type=lgns

Interesting enough Rotowire reports they might be using Mags at power forward which is what I thought he might have played in the nba from college. Mags ain't really 6'11 he's more like a heavy 6'10 or maybe 6'9. I think just like players like Nene, Jrich, and some other dudes they inflate their heights by an inch or two to make them look bigger to play center. They used to measure Barkley 4 inches bigger than he was and they made Duncan 7 feet all of a sudden to match David Robinson's 7 feet for the Twin Towers duo.

I like Mags, but I think for us he'd be a rental and we still wouldn't be good enough to make the playoffs for several years unless one of the rookies develops to replace him right away after he re-signs with some other team. He'll probably go for Toronto I bet. Another reason why the Bargnani Toronto drafting could be bad if they have to decide between Bosh, Bargnani and basically landing a center that wants to play for the Raptors long term.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=roto...owire&type=lgns

I never really thought Mags was a true center, but he's more true than Foyle when it comes to both the offensive and defensive games. He's a good all-star center in the East minus Shaq like a Dale Davis type.

And I guess back to Al Harrington, I agree with all the guys who've said no to Harrington for Murphy. We can get a better trade than that. Atlanta's trying to play us and play Indiana. Atlanta has that much power in their trade leverage to re-sign the guy and immediately trade him.

 

The Magloire thing is another one that I don't think works for us. Assuming the big piece on our end is Murphy, then I think we get the short end of the deal. I like Magloire and he could buy us a year (with far more production than Foyle) as our young bigs continue to develop. But a solid 1 year rental in exchange for Murphy?? I'll pass.

 

If we 'only' pay 15 mils to Dunleavy and Harrington, I would jump on that deal, since we will only pay 6 mils to Harrington. But, if we ever signed Harrington, we would have paid around 20 mils on SF position. Actually, I seriously doubt that Harrington would have started at SF. In one hand, we have Mullin's favorite player Dunleavy, who gets 9 mils per year, and in other hand, we have 2nd year player, Diogu. Unless Dunleavy plays horribly like last season AND Diogu shows a great promise, Harrington would probably start at PF. Hope we don't jump on Harrington deal once again...

 

Kwan - I was being conservative on the $$ because I didn't have the numbers in fron of me. It would certainly be 20 mil in a couple years LOL. But even at 15 mil, would you really jump at it????? I wouldn't. And I agree 100% about not going after Harrington. Nice enough player i guess, but not the right fit for us.

 

Well, if we could have signed Harrington for 6 mils per year, why not? Because, anybody would love to get a player who can put 18/6 for 6 mils per year. He would be very easy to trade if wish to do so. For once, we would have a good contract . OK, I am done dreaming.

Yeah, it seemed like we were offering close to 11 mils per year for Harrington, who's not exactly the right fit for us (talk about dodging a bullet). And, in couple years, we have to resign Ellis, Biedrins and Taft, and our existing contracts of Davis, Richardson, Dunleavy, Murphy (or Harrington), and Foyle would be around 57 mils. We need to dump contracts, and one thing I didn't like about whole Harrington deal is Murphy probably would have more market value than Harrington. Once Harrington plays for us, he would have averaged around 16/6, and nobody would touch his 11 mils per year contract. And, if unless we dump some contracts, we probably will not sign any of our rookies. Actually, that's the reason I would like to see Mag for Murphy trade, because we can dump Murphy's salary. But, I guess it's too late now...

 

Well in the case of salary dump we want to still have tradeable assets for the future and additional players we can use in the mean time, what about Murphy for "three players" type deal. If we get Mags we lose him for absolutely nothing if some team has free cap to re-sign him or unless we try to move him by all-star break to a contender.

If we get "three players" we can cut one with unguaranteed salary or keep one for another trade and at the same time allow more rookies to play.
We have so many rookies! Projects in their third year are still rookies IMO.

The other is wait for all-star break and see if we can land another Baron Davis type deal. That's wishful thinking, but maybe. Murphy is no expiring deal and lopsided deals are pretty hard to come by for the Warriors unless its not in their favor.

 

Kwan, I think we're on the bad end of a Mag for Murphy trade. He's an unusual player, but very valuable. Mag and a first round pick, maybe....and I'm not even sold on that.

 

Clearly, in terms of talent value, we lose. And, Murphy is the only big ticket we may possibly package to get an All-Star type of players. And, I like Murphy to begin with. However, I would have made Murphy for Mag deal.

Projected payroll in 08 offseason.

Davis: 17.1 mils
Richardson: 12.2 mils
Murphy: 10.1 mils
Foyle: 9.8 mils
Dunleavy: around 9 mils = Around 58.2 mils.

This year's rest of players (10) contracts $ = Around 16.5 mils (74.7 mils)

This year's luxury tax line = 65.4 mils.

1. Our salary is in mess. We are top 10 in payroll, are not projected to make PO, and none of our big 5 contracts go away in next 3 years. To make things worse, we have tons of young talents to trade and no room to sign. So, we need to lose some contracts if we hope to see any of Pietrus, Zarko, Ellis, Biedrins and Taft beyond their rookie contracts. Since dumping Davis or Richardson's contracts means we are rebuilding and we can't hope to dump Foyle or Dunleavy's contract, Murphy's contract is the only one we can hope to dump.

2. Diogu and Taft can somewhat fill the hole Murphy will leave. And, if we hope what they can do in the future, they need to get significant mins anyway.

3. Mag has a value in trade market. He is a center and has 10 mils expiring contract. So, we can either let his contract expire or cash in like how we did with Davis trade. While Murphy is a better player, his 50 mils/5 years contract will always be a huge burden for other teams.

Yeah, in ideal world, I would love to cash in Murphy + young talents for O'Neal or Garnett. But, we really don't have much time to dump contracts for 08 offseason. Because if we go next offseason just like this, it would be really hard to dump contracts. Other teams will know that we desperately need to dump contracts, and they will ask A LOT for that. So, next best thing may be the dumping Murphy's contract at this point...