Potential NBA Comparisons

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  1. H.ayes

    H.ayes JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">just this season though..but imo i think tmac



    Ok..so people only care about stats hun??
    MJ was defensive player of the year.. Lebron will never get that
    Led his team to finals which im sure lebron wont do
    Had a lotta MVP awards.. lebron wont get that many
    Has 6 rings. Lebron wont get that
    So what im trying to say is that stats do matter, but not that much.
    MJ has too many awards that im sure Lebron will never get in his career. Thats all</div>

    Refer me to the psychic you're seeing who knows all about the future of LeBron's career, I'd love to meet him/her.
     
  2. Iggy

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Ok..so people only care about stats hun??
    MJ was defensive player of the year.. Lebron will never get that
    Led his team to finals which im sure lebron wont do
    Had a lotta MVP awards.. lebron wont get that many
    Has 6 rings. Lebron wont get that
    So what im trying to say is that stats do matter, but not that much.
    MJ has too many awards that im sure Lebron will never get in his career. Thats all</div>


    okay i agree that lebron might not be as good defensively. im not trying to say lebron will be better than jordan, but how can you say lebron won't lead his team to the finals, that lebron wont get that many rings and that lebron wont get as many awards as MJ? i dont understand, its not fair to say that unless you can see into the future. you can't tell if lebron will or will not do the things MJ did until later in his career where he will get a chance to prove it.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting H.ayes:</div><div class="quote_post">Refer me to the psychic you're seeing who knows all about the future of LeBron's career, I'd love to meet him/her.</div>

    hahaha nice... exactly what i was thinking.
     
  3. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">Dwight Howard = Shaq
    Chris Paul = Jason Kidd
    Emeka Okafor = Tim Duncan
    Ben Gordon = Reggie Miller</div>

    WTF were you smoking when you thought these comparisons up? Emeka can't shoot like Duncan, doesn't and will never have the offensive game Duncan has. Gordon is about 3-4 maybe even 5 inches shorter than Miller. Miller is more of a catch and shoot guy, Gordon can create. Paul isn't close to J-Kidd, Paul forces stuff sometimes, Kidd has always been smart.
     
  4. The One & Only

    The One & Only JBB The Orlando Tragic

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post"> Emeka can't shoot like Duncan, doesn't and will never have the offensive game Duncan has. Gordon is about 3-4 maybe even 5 inches shorter than Miller. Miller is more of a catch and shoot guy, Gordon can create. Paul isn't close to J-Kidd, Paul forces stuff sometimes, Kidd has always been smart.</div>

    I know Emeka can't shoot but I said what they maybe can be in the future. I was also tired when I made this.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">will never have the offensive game Duncan has</div>
    Like the guys above you said. You don't know the future.

    Your saying that Gordon isn't like Miller? Gordon doesn't always create though. A lot of the time he just catches, moves a bit then shoots. I think Gordon can become as clutch and as sick as Miller. Also please don't bring height in this...[​IMG] ZOMG DWIGHT IS POINT 2 INCHES SHORTER THAN SO AND SO....

    How can you say Paul doesn't atleast resemble Kidd?

    Also you guys quit the LeBron vs. Jordan fanboy fight out. Jordan is nothing like Lebron and vice versa.
     
  5. TheFreshPrince

    TheFreshPrince JBB JustBBall Member

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    i think the paul and kidd coomparison is there. Paul is becoming a triple double threat similar to kidd. He is a better scorer, and kidd everything else, but maybe
     
  6. phunDamentalz

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Your saying that Gordon isn't like Miller? Gordon doesn't always create though. A lot of the time he just catches, moves a bit then shoots. I think Gordon can become as clutch and as sick as Miller.</div>
    bro Ben Gordon is about as much like Miller as Jarron Collins is. come on.
     
  7. H.ayes

    H.ayes JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">Also you guys quit the LeBron vs. Jordan fanboy fight out. Jordan is nothing like Lebron and vice versa.</div>


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">I was [...] tired when I made [wrote] this. </div>

    Please, allow us to discuss the comparison of two players just as you have been doing. Whichever two players it seems to be you care about, we could care about two others equally.

    Kthx.
     
  8. The One & Only

    The One & Only JBB The Orlando Tragic

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting H.ayes:</div><div class="quote_post">Please, allow us to discuss the comparison of two players just as you have been doing. Whichever two players it seems to be you care about, we could care about two others equally.

    Kthx.</div>

    I don't know if you notice but I made this thread and I never wanted it to turn into a Kobe = Jordan or LeBron = Jordan thread. It always results in flames and just spirals downward.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">bro Ben Gordon is about as much like Miller as Jarron Collins is. come on.</div>

    How so? Gordon is already making himself known as a clutch shooter and I've seen Gordon play similarly to Miller in a lot of ways.
     
  9. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">the thread is future nba comparisons, like what are the young guns in the league gonna be like. Kobe is older, and IS better. i dont want to start a debate but whatever. that slike saying KG is gonna be like elton brand</div>
    OK it doesnt say any where that we have to do future nba comparisons.. and btw i dont care what you say..thats your opinion and i have my own..and i think tmac>kobe..

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting H.ayes:</div><div class="quote_post">Refer me to the psychic you're seeing who knows all about the future of LeBron's career, I'd love to meet him/her.</div>
    im just predicting..no need to get rude btw..idk wat u say..that is what i think

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">How can you compare Lebron to Jordan when he doesn't even compare to Kobe? Kobe is the best player in the league, and the closest thing to Jordan.</div>
    Exactly

    Ok i like Bron a lot but i just dont see him being the next Jordan. And IMO i dont think he'll win 6 championship or get as many MVP awards as Jordan did. I am not predicting..I am just posting what I think he'll do. And I dont think he can do what Jordan did.
     
  10. ROCK4LIFE

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    How can you compare Lebron to Jordan when he doesn't even compare to Kobe? Kobe is the best player in the league, and the closest thing to Jordan.
     
  11. durvasa

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    The original poster wanted to compare "young and up and coming players" to well known players. So it would make more sense to compare LeBron (or Wade, for that matter) to Jordan than Kobe. Kobe doesn't qualify as "young and up and coming" any more. He's firmly established.
     
  12. XSV

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting H.ayes:</div><div class="quote_post">Michael Jordan's 3rd Season:

    37.1 PPG
    5.20 RPG
    4.6 APG
    .482% FG
    40.0 MPG

    LeBron James' 3rd Season:

    31.4 PPG
    7.0 RPG
    6.6 APG
    .480% FG
    42.5 MPG


    Yeah, not on his level at all. Maybe above it?</div>


    You totally just contradicted your stats. From what I can see Jordan put up better numbers in fewer minutes, and has a higher efficiency. Lebron has the adv. in rbs. and assts. but Jordan killed him in points in slightly less minutes. And all this while actually playing defense[​IMG] .
     
  13. Legacy

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    Bosh=Garnett
    LeBron=Magic Johnson
     
  14. The One & Only

    The One & Only JBB The Orlando Tragic

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting vcwannabe15:</div><div class="quote_post">
    LeBron=Magic Johnson</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">From the moment he stepped onto the court, people pondered: How could a man so big do so many things with the ball and with his body? It was Magic.
    Source
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    Statwise I can see it. Playstyle wise, I wouldn't say so.
     
  15. tycoon21

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^nice,



    the thread is future nba comparisons, like what are the young guns in the league gonna be like. Kobe is older, and IS better. i dont want to start a debate but whatever. that slike saying KG is gonna be like elton brand</div>

    morrison=bird
    foye=chauncy
    ford=nash
    sean may=jamal maglore
    aren't you the one who said nash is better than john stockton[​IMG] just playin[​IMG]
     
  16. jbbKing23James

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">....what?....



    Huh?......



    No comment......



    LeBron isn't better than Jordan.

    Guys stop bringing petty arguements of Lebron > Jordan in here. Also if you think this isn't interesting then don't post it.



    Dwight isn't like TD. Dwight doesn't have a jumpshot like him nor the post moves. Dwight is a power guy, thats why I put him as becoming like Shaq.



    Fair enough.</div>
    i meant when LeBron is older he will be like jordan. Im a fan of both so don't think im hatin on jordan.
     
  17. H.ayes

    H.ayes JBB JustBBall Member

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    Adam Morrisson is nothing like Larry Bird and will never compare to Larry no matter what he accomplishes in his career. He is white; that is all they have in common.
     
  18. playmaker15

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    Gerald Green = YOUNG T-Mac
     
  19. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">Compare the young and upcoming to the already known players. This is what I think those young players will develop roughly into.

    Iguodala = VC, or J-Richardson
    Bosh = KG
    Dwight Howard = Shaq
    Chris Paul = Jason Kidd
    Emeka Okafor = Tim Duncan
    Ben Gordon = Reggie Miller


    This is all I can think of for now. Too tired.

    EDIT: I thought up more but can't think of good NBA Comparisons: Josh Smith, LeBron, Carmelo, JR Smith, etc.</div>
    All but the Bosh to KG one are actually quite bad comparisons. Not to be mean but Iguodala has not shown to be a scorer yet, right now he's an athletic finisher and defender who can catch and shoot a little, and has ball handling and playmaking ability.

    Dwight Howard really doesn't have a similar game to Shaq at all right now. Paul is nothing like Kidd, he's versatile, but in terms of how he plays, not at all, even comparing to young Kdd, they aren't similar in any way except for being pure PG's. Emeka first of all plays nothing like Duncan, and does not have close to the skill level of Duncan, doesn't have the scoring ability, doesn't have a similar post game, stylem whatever, there aren't any similarites outside of them being able to rebound.

    Ben Gordon is NOTHING like Reggie. I think this is actually the one that's furthest off. Reggie is a master of using screens, and was not a very versatile guy or big ball handler. Gordon is about getting the ball in his hands to score, he's not a screens guy, he's assisted on 48% of his makes, in comparison to Reggie who was on about 75%+, but he could create too, that just wasn't his main game though. Gordon has sick handles as a scorer, and a nice crossover. Gordon is also quick, fast, has a 40 inch vertical, and is an undersized SG, while Reggie was not big in the athletic department, and was a legit 6'7 guy.


    <u>My comparisons:</u>

    Iguodala = Richard Jefferson with better playmaking ability.

    Bosh = A mixture of KG and Duncan, not as good as either defensively and on the glass, and not the playmaker KG is.

    Dwight Howard = Have no clue, sort of similar to Amare, but more of a post guy, a better defender and rebounder. Could draw some similarities to David Robinson because of his strength, but not really very similar in his game. It's still up in the air, Amare is probably the closest thing with him being better in some areas and worse in others.

    Chris Paul = Isiah Thomas kinda of player, I don't know if he will be the scorer Isiah was though, but he has the same height, and a similar game. You could also make a KJ comparison.

    Emeka Okafor = Poor Man's Alonzo Mourning, definately not the same scoring or shot blocking threat.

    Ben Gordon = Sort of similar to Mike James this season as a Raptor. He has that ability to hit shots calmly with people in his face, the quickness and handles to get to the basket, and a smooth stroke. MJ is a better playmaker, and more capable at the PG spot though, but he's still young. You could also compare him to 03-04 Arenas.

    Josh Smith = Easily Andrei Kirilenko, though slightly different, he will have a very similar game, more athletic version. He's shown he has the playmaking ability, he has the shot blocking, and of course the length, he's improved his shot and scoring (though Andrei isn't a big scorer or shooter anyways), and his man to man defense is moving up.

    LeBron = Lebron, can't think of anyone he's actually similar to.

    Carmelo = Carmelo, maybe a better scoring less versatile prime Jamal Mashburn, I don't know, or just Carmelo?

    JR Smith = Q-Rich without the post game

    Raymond Felton = Baron Davis, but not yet as crafy a ball handler and passer.

    Deron Williams = Possibly Andre Miller with a jumpshot. I don't know, but I just see similarities in their game.

    Sean May = Clarence Weatherspoon, I don't know but he just reminds me of him lol.

    Shaun Livingston = Penny Hardawy, less scoring, more passing, not as athletic.

    Adam Morrison = Not Larry Bird. Let me see, Glenn Robinson with Wally Szcerbiak's shooting ability, and possibly a better scorer than both if he maxes as a player.

    Brandon Roy = Manu Ginobili, this is what I see when I see this guy play, people might not agree, but I see Ginobili.

    Martell Webster = Michael Redd who can't put the ball on the floor as well.
     
  20. The One & Only

    The One & Only JBB The Orlando Tragic

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    og15 your comparisons are great but I am saying what kind of player you think they can, or will develop into. Not comparisons as of right now.
     

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