Should this past season truly have been Iverson?s last as a 76er where would you rank AI among all time 76ers legends, guys like Erving, Malone, Cheeks, Cunningham, and Barkley? I started this same thread a few seasons ago, but want to see if anyone has changed there minds since then, and really just get an overall feel for how Iverson will be remembered. I will post my opinions later. I have football practice a couple minutes.
Allen Iverson has won Rookie of the Year, single handedly led us to the 2001 NBA Finals, he was the MVP of the 2001 season, had 7 appearances in the All Star Game, and won the All Star Game MVP in the 2001 season and 2005 season. Allen Iverson is a 3 time NBA regular season steals leader, and shares NBA record for most seasons leading league in steals with 3. Allen Iverson has led the NBA in scoring four times (1998-99, 2000-01, 2001-02, and 2004-05) and, in the process, has tied George Gervin for the third-most NBA scoring titles by one player. He only trails Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan. AI ranks second only to Michael Jordan in career playoff scoring (30.6). He set the Sixers all-time rookie record with 1,787 points, and is the 10th fastest player to score 14,000 points. Of course stats don?t mean everything, with that being said, us Sixer fans know what type of punishment AI goes through every single game, and the all the pain he indorse just to get us a victory. The guy is a warrior, and for him to be only 6 feet tall is truly something special. There will never ever be another AI in the league. I really think some of us fans should really appreciate more what type of talent we are seeing on the court night in and night out. Which other team in the league has a 6 foot warrior scoring point after point after point? Us Sixer fans have really gotten greedy, and I?m sure that once AI leaves for good, we will all truly realize what type of talent we really had on this team. You look at all those accomplishments, and all the blood sweat and tears he has put into this franchise, plus his colorful antics like ?Practice,? and the way he revolutionized hip hop in the NBA. This makes him, in my opinion, the most entertaining Sixer and the most entertaining player to ever play the game. There is no doubt in my mind that he will go down not only as one of the greatest players in the Sixers franchise, but one of the greatest players that ever played in the NBA.
He's not the best sixer of all time thats wilt but he third after dr j. He's one of the all time greats though.
All right, here we go to me Allen Iverson is one of the most, if not the most influential Philadelphia sports figure of all time. From fade to braids, he has been the face of Philadelphia for the last decade; along with Brian Dawkins is the longest tenure for an active Philadelphia sports athlete. To me Allen Iverson is in the top five when it comes to ranking him among former 76ers. AI has had some tumultuous events throughout his career in Philly, but his bond with the city has only been strengthened. I don’t know if I would rank him above Julius Erving, but after that it’s really a toss up for me. Despite the greatness of Wilt Chamberline you have to consider that in his era there where less rules/regulations limiting big men (no three-second violation, charge, etc.) so it made his life easier. AI has accomplished pretty much everything he could individually thus far in his career (ROY, MVP, All Star MVP, Olympian, etc) it’s a damn shame that poor management, and poorer players have prevented him from making a serious run for a title (outside of 2001). Hate him or love him one thing no one can take away from Iverson is that when he is on the court he gives every once of energy he has for his team. He may be controversial, but he is arguably the best little man to ever play the game. If was his last season in Philadelphia it was pretty synonymous to his entire career Iverson shined, but without the pieces around him the team didn’t, top five all time to me possible top two. As far as influence goes the most influential of all time.
AI is at a tie imo with wilt and dr. j. The players played in different era's, so i dont really want to put any ahead of the other. Also all three of them are some of my fav players all time
^^o, definatley best little man ever imo. Pound for pound NO ONE will ever be better than him imo. I doubt a 165 pound guy will even make an all star game ever again, much less mvp
He'll have his place in history, but I'll have a serious problem if it's above guys like Julius Erving, Moses Malone, and Maurice Cheeks. All three brought a championship home to Philadelphia, something Iverson has failed to do. Moses Malone was awesome back in the day. I'll put him above a guy like Charles Barkley though, I have no problem with that. 1. Julius Erving 2. Moses Malone 3. Maurice Cheeks 4. Allen Iverson 5. Charles Barkley
Cheeks? Lol. Would Cheeks (in his 20's) have brought Philly a championship last year? Christ, Iverson just averaged 33, 7, with a respectable percentage (45% almost). Give the guy some respect, putting Cheeks above Iverson is a joke. Iverson already gets 7 APG, I'm sure he could have gotten even more if he played with Malone and Dr. J. Also, Barkley played 8 years for you guys with an amazing percentage, boards, etc. he could be above Iverson. But if you left Iverson over him, it wouldn't be as crazy as the Cheeks thing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting huevonkiller:</div><div class="quote_post">Would Cheeks (in his 20's) have brought Philly a championship last year? Christ, Iverson just averaged 33, 7, with a respectable percentage (45% almost). Give the guy some respect, putting Cheeks above Iverson is a joke. Iverson already gets 7 APG, I'm sure he could have gotten even more if he played with Malone and Dr. J. Also, Barkley played 8 years for you guys with an amazing percentage, boards, etc. he could be above Iverson. But if you left Iverson over him, it wouldn't be as crazy as the Cheeks thing.</div> Cheeks earned his spot in Philadelphia history. He worked his way up from a second round pick out of West Texas to the starting point guard on an NBA Championship team. You can't hate Maurice Cheeks, he put up 15 a game while sharing the ball around and getting around 10 dimes per game. All this while playing on one of the best teams in the history of basketball. Until Iverson wins a Championship, which is unlikely with him in Philly, then all those guys from the 1983 Championship team are a level above him. Philadelphia doesn't get many championship, I think only Cleveland has had a longer drought so the guys that did it in 1983 have a special spot in Philadelphia history. Talent wise is Cheeks better then Iverson? No. But this is about their place in Philadelphia history, in which Cheeks has a better place in Philadelphia history.
Yeah sure, guy. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting C.K.:</div><div class="quote_post">Cheeks earned his spot in Philadelphia history. He worked his way up from a second round pick out of West Texas to the starting point guard on an NBA Championship team. You can't hate Maurice Cheeks, he put up 15 a game while sharing the ball around and getting around 10 dimes per game. All this while playing on one of the best teams in the history of basketball. Until Iverson wins a Championship, which is unlikely with him in Philly, then all those guys from the 1983 Championship team are a level above him.</div> Cheeks earned his spot? More like: Malone and J were his training wheels. That double-thinking excuse is weak. Iverson has accomplished more by himself than Cheeks. You make it seem Like Iverson hasn't even been close before... The truth is, you're too lazy to properly analyze basketball players from the past so you resort to the "I have a ring, ignorantly classify me as superior" tactic. Maurice averaged 12.5 points and 6.9 assists in the regular season, then 16 and 7 during the playoffs that year they won. Better than what Iverson could have done with this team? Nah guy. Wow, look at all the point guards who average more then that for their career that don't have rings. Iverson (as is the case when you add another superstar) would have at least won a ring with that team in 83, if not more. BTW, how do you know David Wright is Mr. Clutch already? Heh.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting huevonkiller:</div><div class="quote_post">Cheeks earned his spot? More like: Malone and J were his training wheels. That double-thinking excuse is weak. Iverson has accomplished more by himself than Cheeks. You make it seem Like Iverson hasn't even been close before... The truth is, you're too lazy to properly analyze basketball players from the past so you resort to the "I have a ring, ignorantly classify me as superior" tactic. Maurice averaged 12.5 points and 6.9 assists in the regular season, then 16 and 7 during the playoffs that year they won. Better than what Iverson could have done with this team? Nah guy. Wow, look at all the point guards who average more then that for their career that don't have rings. Iverson (as is the case when you add another superstar) would have at least won a ring with that team in 83, if not more. BTW, how do you know David Wright is Mr. Clutch already? Heh.</div> Championships are rare in this city. The question was where does Iverson rank among the Sixers legends and I really think this city would respect the starting point guard that brought home their last championship more then the starting point guard that has got them nothing to show but a finals apperance. Talk to a Sixers fan who was around for the 1983 Championship, I'll guarantee that they'll say Cheeks has a higher spot in Philadelphia history then Iverson. Cheeks holds one of the few rings that was ever brought to Philadelphia, something Iverson can't say... Second off, there's more to analyzing basketball then going on Google and looking up stats. Watch some tape of Maurice Cheeks. Watch him play defense and control the tempo of the game. He won't give you 30 points a game and consecutive lottery appearances like Iverson will. He'll do whatever it takes to win the game and that's what this is all about right?
If you look at just accomplishments, AI is still among the top with a MVP, and two all star mvp's, along with multiple scoring titles and all nba teams, while being one of the smallest players ever in the nba, 5'11" 165 lbs. No ring hurts, but he still acomplished many things. The Sixers have had many greats, so its tough. Erving was considered the best ever before jordan came around, and Moses came right out of high school to dominate as a big. I cant descide to be honest, so i put all three up there at number one, wilt is out for me now (he wasnt there enough).
Perception by the masses means nothing, only reality. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting C.K.:</div><div class="quote_post">Championships are rare in this city. The question was where does Iverson rank among the Sixers legends and I really think this city would respect the starting point guard that brought home their last championship more then the starting point guard that has got them nothing to show but a finals apperance. Talk to a Sixers fan who was around for the 1983 Championship, I'll guarantee that they'll say Cheeks has a higher spot in Philadelphia history then Iverson. Cheeks holds one of the few rings that was ever brought to Philadelphia, something Iverson can't say... Second off, there's more to analyzing basketball then going on Google and looking up stats. Watch some tape of Maurice Cheeks. Watch him play defense and control the tempo of the game. He won't give you 30 points a game and consecutive lottery appearances like Iverson will. He'll do whatever it takes to win the game and that's what this is all about right?</div> Yes... Iverson is a Sixers legend too, over Cheeks. Lol man, sometimes, stats do speak for themselves, so "no" to you on that point. Anyway, Cheeks didn't bring a championship to Philadelphia. That entire team accomplished that task, he was just a part of the process, the third best player (fourth on some nights, considering Andrew Toney averaged 19 points and 5 assists during those playoffs in only 30 minutes a night). Learn to acknowledge the entire team every time you mention that championship. A lot of people from 1983 think Cheeks is better? Then they don't know how to properly analyze either. Iverson could do what Cheeks did and more, he'd handle the ball less and his percentage would be higher if he played with those other two legends. You're not going to tell me Cheeks and other lord-of-the-ring-role-players are superior to people like Iverson, Kevin Johnson (another point guard), etc. ?
Iverson, IMO, is the face of the Sixers franchise, now and forever. He's been through the good and the bad and has stuck it tough. I sure hope Philly wins a title during his time because that would solidify his place in Sixers lore.
