Position Battles: Dalembert or Hunter?

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  1. Really Lost One

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    Who do you think should start at center for us next season, Samuel Dalembert, or Steve Hunter?

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    Dalembert was somewhat of a disappointment last season. After a monstrous playoff performance against the Pistons, I expected more out of him. Instead, it seems like he didn't improve much, if at all. He is still getting relatively the same numbers. Still sub par on offense, soft, and makes too many mistakes. With so many seasons in the league, you would expect him to have somewhat of a knowledge for the game, but instead, the guy is clueless. He is about as smart as a kid drafted straight out of high school.

    As for Steve Hunter? He has quickly turned into one of my favorite players currently in a Sixers uniform. The guy was once sought out to be worth nothing more than two 2nd round draft picks, but really shined when he was given the opportunity to play. Steven Hunter may not be as good of a rebounder as Dalembert, but he sure is 10xs smarter. Plus, the guy actually tries when he steps on the court, and has a pretty good offensive game. He can also block shots, without all those goal tends.

    All in all, I feel that as of now Hunter is the better player for the Sixers. Potential wise Sammy is leagues ahead, but when will Sammy ever live up to those potentials? Or will he ever? I think that if we send Sammy to the bench to backup Hunter, it will send a message to his head that he needs to play hard in order to get his minutes, and that minutes are earned, and not based on your salary. So, what is everyones take on this situation?
     
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    Both. Sit Webber. He can't move. Dalimbert would have had a better year if the refs were fair about calling fouls on him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheGreatK-Bob:</div><div class="quote_post">Both. Sit Webber. He can't move. Dalimbert would have had a better year if the refs were fair about calling fouls on him.</div>
    You honestly think the 76ers about to sit someone who is making as much as Webber?
     
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    Sammy and Hunter did look pretty good when they played together last season. But Webber won't be coming off the bench next season. Trust me. You don't pay someone 20 million dollars to come off a bench, plus, his ego won't allow it. Anyways, back to the topic. Who would you rather see start for us at center? Samuel Dalembert or Steve Hunter?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Sammy and Hunter did look pretty good when they played together last season. But Webber won't be coming off the bench next season. Trust me. You don't pay someone 20 million dollars to come off a bench, plus, his ego won't allow it. Anyways, back to the topic. Who would you rather see start for us at center? Samuel Dalembert or Steve Hunter?</div>
    We made a commitment to Dalembert we have to follow through with it or trade him. Same situation as Webber you don?t pay someone ten million year to come off the bench. This has been a situation that has taken precedent in many different sports/organizations most recently with the Chicago Bears who basically stripped away Thoams Jones starting role simply because they have too much money invested in Benson. Although, it is a different sport we are in the same situation.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">We made a commitment to Dalembert we have to follow through with it or trade him. Same situation as Webber you don?t pay someone ten million year to come off the bench. This has been a situation that has taken precedent in many different sports/organizations most recently with the Chicago Bears who basically stripped away Thoams Jones starting role simply because they have too much money invested in Benson. Although, it is a different sport we are in the same situation.</div>
    Didn't we start Hunter instead of Sammy at some point last season? Anyways, let's fix up the question a bit. If you were to disregard the salaries, which player would you rather start at center, Samuel Dalembert or Steve Hunter.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't we start Hunter instead of Sammy at some point last season? Anyways, let's fix up the question a bit. If you were to disregard the salaries, which player would you rather start at center, Samuel Dalembert or Steve Hunter.</div>
    Yeah, but mainly due to injury it was not a long-term solution (Hunter starting). Anyway, disregarding salaries I would rather have Hunter starting any day of the weak. When he is on the court, he is more aware on the offensive end he gets many alley oops, and easy dunks simply because of that. He is also more aware of defense in my opinion. Although, Dalembert is a good shot blocker his instinct for the ball is low so it leads to many goal-tending violations.

    To be honest with you I don?t even blame Dalembert for his failure to live up to his contract (thus far). He only started playing basketball in high school, didn?t spend a long time in college, and really never had a mentor to teach him the fundamentals. The 76ers have never even looked into the possibility of bringing in a big man coach.

    Moses Malone has offered his services many times, but the team has declined. When Malone has worked out with Sammy, he has typically performed well the game afterwards. I blame the 76ers for everything I mean you want to bring in Andrew Toney as an assistant coach, but not Moses Malone? Pathetic.
     
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    Disregard cash. We all acknowledge the Webber trade was in the long run, terrible for the team. Suck it up. You can't not pay him, that's not an option, but just because you pay him doesn't mean you play him. I don;t see the logic if it doesn't help you win. It's the GM's job to get the players, while it's the coach's job to use them in the best way possible. I don't think the coach need be concwened with how much his players are payed, just how much they'll do to win.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheGreatK-Bob:</div><div class="quote_post">Disregard cash. We all acknowledge the Webber trade was in the long run, terrible for the team. Suck it up. You can't not pay him, that's not an option, but just because you pay him doesn't mean you play him. I don;t see the logic if it doesn't help you win. It's the GM's job to get the players, while it's the coach's job to use them in the best way possible. I don't think the coach need be concwened with how much his players are payed, just how much they'll do to win.</div>
    Last time I checked he still averages 20 points and about 10 rebounds a night. Webber is doing his part the problem is no one outside of Webber and Iverson are contributing. Iguodala doesn?t have the mind set of a scorer, nor does anyone else so you typically end up with AI/Webber taking 50 shots a game. Not only would bringing a 20 million dollar player off the bench be bad financially Webber?s ego would not allow it either. Why risk creating a cancer that you are unable to trade/release?
     
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    i think dalembert should start because i really didnt see him doing much of anything off the bench. He doesnt perform as well off the bench where as hunter gives alot more in limited minutes.
     
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    Dalembert is the guy you start in this situation. He's making way too much money to be benched. You guys gave him the huge contract and made a committment to him. So, unless you trade him, you have to follow through, that is, unless you want a $60milion player coming off your bench.
     
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    I don't buy the whole 'we are paying him 10+ million dollars, we have to start him' thing with Dalembert. There are guys in this league that make/made money that they didn't deserve at all that didn't start (Tim Thomas, Jerome James, Keith Van Horn etc). Unfortunetly for Sixers fans, Dalembert is one of those players. If Hunter is playing better, you start him.
     
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    I said disregarding contracts, who would you rather have starting, Hunter or Dalembert. Anyways, Bobcats made a good point. There are a lot of highly paid players that don't start. Another player you can add on the list is Erick Dampier.
     
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    According to your sig, Defense wins championships, Steven Hunter is more aware of the defensive end of the floor then Samuel Dalembert, thus would be the better starter. If Maurice Cheeks had a bit more passion for his job, then salarys would be out of the question and Dalembert and Hunter would start together. They seem to work best with each other (Just like King envisioned).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">According to your sig, Defense wins championships, Steven Hunter is more aware of the defensive end of the floor then Samuel Dalembert, thus would be the better starter. If Maurice Cheeks had a bit more passion for his job, then salarys would be out of the question and Dalembert and Hunter would start together. They seem to work best with each other (Just like King envisioned).</div>
    Whether we have Hunter starting or Dalembert were not going to be a championship squad so why not follow through with an investment as big as Dalembert. Your logic really does not make any sense you act as if Hunter makes us a contender. Dalembert?s potential is far superior to that of Hunter?s and he has ten million a year invested in him. Might as well see what you have and how good he can be. I wouldn?t blame Cheeks for the rather sorry roster he has been handed.
     
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    From what Dalembert showed last season, and from what Hunter showed late in the season, I`d pick Hunter any day.
     
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    I would have to say Hunter. He impressed me towards the end of the season and Dalembert kinda fell asleep when he played after his injury. I liked Dalembert better earlier in the season. Hunter stepped it up when he took Dalembert's place.
     
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    Samuel needs a wake up call, I don't know what it would be, but I think since he got a long term contract he lost his will power. The 76ers also need a bigman coach that can really stay on Dalembert. You would think that Moses Malone would do the trick but it doesn't seem like he helped much.

    Hopefully this offseason he has worked on his low post game, and hopefully he has been watching some game tape. Even though I get very frustrated with Dalembert, you have got to remember he is still raw and still has time to develope.

    Its not to late for Dalembert, but it is definitely time for him to wake up and start getting serious about his job. He doesn't have that fire of a copetitor yet, so one has to wonder, will Sam ever come through. "Want to" is something that you cannot coach.
     

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