More praise for Coach Bates

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  1. porky88

    porky88 King of Kings

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    I checked the stats on defense yesterday and I noticed the Packers defense ranks 5th in the NFL in total defense.. Let that settle in for a little bit... Now try to think what could of been if the offense stayed healthy and played close t what they did last year...

    Feels like someone drove a nail through my heart... The defense has played so good and the offense is well..............

    :sniff: [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>I checked the stats on defense yesterday and I noticed the Packers defense ranks 5th in the NFL in total defense.. Let that settle in for a little bit... Now try to think what could of been if the offense stayed healthy and played close t what they did last year...

    Feels like someone drove a nail through my heart... The defense has played so good and the offense is well..............

    :sniff: [​IMG]</div>

    Well . . .

    That statistic is skewed

    The facts are:
    The are 23rd against the run
    Trail in most games so they dont have the pass like other teams(31st in attempts pre game against them) but when they do face the pass, they struggle.
    Most teams are ahead of pack this year, so they tend to just run out the clock, since pack cant stop run.

    Defense isnt a top 5 unit, isnt a top 10 unit, isnt a top 15 unit, isnt a top 20 unit.
     
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    Speaking from experience, Bates is a great coach, teacher, & motivator
     
  4. porky88

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    They are also first agains the pass... Your biased out of your mind in saying that they aren't a top 20 unit. Maybe not top 10 but they are a top 20 for sure.

    I've watched every game this year and this unit is much improved over last years defense.

    Not to mention the offense always turns the ball over and our opponents offenses face a short field. This unit might not be one of the 5 best but they are one of the 15 best... They are rather young to.. Pending how replace Grady Jackson we might not be that bad next year on defense either...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>They are also first agains the pass... Your biased out of your mind in saying that they aren't a top 20 unit. Maybe not top 10 but they are a top 20 for sure.

    I've watched every game this year and this unit is much improved over last years defense.

    Not to mention the offense always turns the ball over and our opponents offenses face a short field. This unit might not be one of the 5 best but they are one of the 15 best... They are rather young to.. Pending how replace Grady Jackson we might not be that bad next year on defense either...</div>

    They are #1 vs pass only on basis of seeing less attempts than anyone, they give up lots of TDs to pass, and dont take the ball away a lot, give high YPA to pass. They are weak defense made to look strong cuz teams dont need to score cuz of how weak offense is. Bottom 12 unit, not a lot of talent.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>They are also first agains the pass... Your biased out of your mind in saying that they aren't a top 20 unit. Maybe not top 10 but they are a top 20 for sure.

    I've watched every game this year and this unit is much improved over last years defense.

    Not to mention the offense always turns the ball over and our opponents offenses face a short field. This unit might not be one of the 5 best but they are one of the 15 best... They are rather young to.. Pending how replace Grady Jackson we might not be that bad next year on defense either...</div>

    They are #1 vs pass only on basis of seeing less attempts than anyone, they give up lots of TDs to pass, and dont take the ball away a lot, give high YPA to pass. They are weak defense made to look strong cuz teams dont need to score cuz of how weak offense is. Bottom 12 unit, not a lot of talent.</div>

    Really??? What makes you such an expert??? You seen how many Packer games? 1, 2 at tops.. Asked and Packer fan. Ask anyone who's watched the majority of the Packer games this year and they'll say this defense is much improved. It's not a top 5 unit like the total defense states but it's def a top 15.... Whether you to biased to admitt that is your opinion..
     
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    panthersare#1 The GM

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    I think Jim Bates should get a head coaching job next year, he would be a good coach to turn around the texans
     
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    This defense is vastly improved this season your bias is unmatched! You cannot honestly sit there and sya this defense is not a top 20 unit! I'd put them at number 10 or 11 at least! When you see the hussle and effort they put into everygame it just makes you wonder, what if this team had the same offense from last year to go along with this D?
     

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