It's really a toss up between KG, Kobe and AK, as they all have their slight weaknesses. KG's only real weakness is his shooting, though for a PF it is relatively good. However, the skills that he is best at may not be quite as well honed as the best skills of Kobe or AK. One of Kobe's main weaknesses lies in his mentality rather than his ability. He can pass well if he chooses to, but far too often he keeps the ball to score himself. Whilst not showing a physical weakness, it most certainky shows a mental and tactical weakness. Kirilenko is really a player who can hurt you anywhere on the court. With or without the ball. He can score, he can rebound, he can pass, he can steal and he can block. Okay, so his ball handling skills are just average for his position, but that's not really a weakness.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">One of Kobe's main weaknesses lies in his mentality rather than his ability. He can pass well if he chooses to, but far too often he keeps the ball to score himself. </div> So untrue. Just look at the playoffs. He wanted to get everyone involved and it didn't sting his pride at all.
Do people still nail Kobe for being a ball hog? I thought those days ended. My complete package is no other than Kobe Bryant. You want defense? He'll give you All NBA defense. You want scoring? Best scorer in the league. You want leadership? He's quickly developing that category. The game's on the line? Kobe'll knock it down for you. Kobe Bryant, like Moo said, does everything, and he does everything to his fullest abilities. He slashes, makes every layup look easy. He can score inside with either hand, he can draw fouls when need be. His range is endless. His jumpers are a thing of beauty. He has the ability to be a playmaker when the Lakers need him to, and his rebounding isn't to shabby. Kobe Bryant is hands down my most complete player in the NBA.
I didn't say he wasn't the most complete player, and I didn't knock his talent. I merely stated that there are times when he will not choose the best option. Granted, he'll often score by taking it himself, but a complete player should, in my opinion, be a team player. Granted, Kobe was much better during the Playoffs, but in the regular season he wasn't too good.
Kevin Garnett. He can play 3 frontcourt positions, defence, offence and most importantly, a desire to win the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chingy0007:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't say he wasn't the most complete player, and I didn't knock his talent. I merely stated that there are times when he will not choose the best option. Granted, he'll often score by taking it himself, but a complete player should, in my opinion, be a team player. Granted, Kobe was much better during the Playoffs, but in the regular season he wasn't too good.</div> He wasn't too good because you say so? Or he wasn't too good because his teammates missed half of the opportunities that he set up for them?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chingy0007:</div><div class="quote_post">It's really a toss up between KG, Kobe and AK, as they all have their slight weaknesses. KG's only real weakness is his shooting, though for a PF it is relatively good. However, the skills that he is best at may not be quite as well honed as the best skills of Kobe or AK.</div> KG is an amazing shooter. Besides dirk, kg is the best 4/5 in the league in shooting. Plus KG's turnaround from about 15, doesnt miss
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">He wasn't too good because you say so? Or he wasn't too good because his teammates missed half of the opportunities that he set up for them?</div> I meant not too good at passing in the right situation, to clarify. He often would have an opportunity to pass but wouldn't. At least, in the games I saw (about 1 Lakers game a month). KG is a great shooter for his position, as I said, but it is still a weakness in comparison to, say, Dirk
Kobe...would be the pefrect choice....Yeah...his shooting is absolutely meticulous...But another let down is that fact that hes a "Ball Hog"...many a times teammates opposed this matter...Once Brian Grant almost slapped Bryant for his selfishness on the court......
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chingy0007:</div><div class="quote_post"> KG is a great shooter for his position, as I said, but it is still a weakness in comparison to, say, Dirk</div> the second best shooter at the pf position that you cant leave open anywhere on the court, is not a weakness.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting chingy0007:</div><div class="quote_post">I meant not too good at passing in the right situation, to clarify. He often would have an opportunity to pass but wouldn't. At least, in the games I saw (about 1 Lakers game a month).</div>By right situation, what do you mean? A lot of the Lakers games I watched, he usually made a good choice. If he could set his teammate up, he would. It's just that, a lot of the times they'd either blow the shot or defer right back to him, forcing him to take a tough shot or force something (pass or shot) that he shouldn't have had to if his teammate would have just taken the shot or made the shot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silverspurs:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe...would be the pefrect choice....Yeah...his shooting is absolutely meticulous...But another let down is that fact that hes a "Ball Hog"...many a times teammates opposed this matter...Once Brian Grant almost slapped Bryant for his selfishness on the court......</div> He's got an above average TS%. Lol, what do I care what Brian Grant thinks. I should slap him for getting paid 15 million this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's really a toss up between KG, Kobe and AK, as they all have their slight weaknesses. KG's only real weakness is his shooting, though for a PF it is relatively good. However, the skills that he is best at may not be quite as well honed as the best skills of Kobe or AK. One of Kobe's main weaknesses lies in his mentality rather than his ability. He can pass well if he chooses to, but far too often he keeps the ball to score himself. Whilst not showing a physical weakness, it most certainky shows a mental and tactical weakness. Kirilenko is really a player who can hurt you anywhere on the court. With or without the ball. He can score, he can rebound, he can pass, he can steal and he can block. Okay, so his ball handling skills are just average for his position, but that's not really a weakness.</div> So you're saying shooting is a weakness for KG, yet he's a better shooter than Kirilenko who's a SF, and that's not a weakness for Kirilenko? For a PF, his shooting is not "relatively good", it's very good. He hits an eFG% of 46.9% on jumpshots in addition to his 81% FT, Dirk hits a 49.8% eFG, but he has the help of shooting 40% from three and taking a good amount of them per game. Just because someone else is a better shooter than you does not mean your shooting becomes a weakness. In comparison, it's not as good, but still not a weakness. Shooting is not Ben Gordon's weakness because Ray Allen is a better shooter than him. Worse of all is that you go on to say AK's ball handling is only average for his position, yet it's not a weakness., but KG's shooting is good (actually very good) for his position, yet it's a weakness? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">the second best shooter at the pf position that you cant leave open anywhere on the court, is not a weakness.</div> I'd argue there are possibly equal to better shooters at PF. There's no certainty in it, but Brand, David West, Austin Croshere, KVH, Brian Cook, Matt Bonner, Radmanovic could all put up a very good argument.
^^Im talking all around shooting, plus no scrubs. Obvioulsy there are some crappy pf's that can shoot the lights out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Im talking all around shooting, plus no scrubs. Obvioulsy there are some crappy pf's that can shoot the lights out.</div> Why not scrubs? They're still powerforwards aren't they?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Im talking all around shooting, plus no scrubs. Obvioulsy there are some crappy pf's that can shoot the lights out.</div> lol, you should've emphasized "no scrubs" . Even with "no scrubs", we still have David West and Elton Brand, and I don't know your cut off for scrubs, so I'm not sure which other guys fit in. Brand doesn't have the three point range, so I guess he get's eliminated in the "all-round" shooting criteria, though his range does extend to about 21 feet. David West has the three point range, he doesn't take many three's, but he has the range, scores 17 PPG, hits a higher eFG% on jumpers, and shoots 84% from the line. I forgot to post him before, but also Chris Bosh, very nice mid-range shooter, has three range, and hits 81.6% from the line. Like Aznx said though, being scrubs does not make them any less of PF's or shooters, but s'all good
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting authentiq:</div><div class="quote_post">Which player do you think has the least holes in his game? Most Complete Player? I'll post my thoughts later...gotta go somwhere. Talk.</div> Tracy McGrady. Gifted hands, length, amazing range, powerful rebounder when he needs to be for the team and can pass and involve his whole team. Needless to say as a gifted athlete he can turn up defensive pressure and transition effortlessly back and forth. I think he is slightly ahead of Kobe as the all around best player today. Three years from now, we will be talking about James and Anthony and Wade. Chris Paul will be a top 5 player, but because of his height (which if you watched the Hornets last year you know he is a competitive rebounder ala Kidd -- a better shooter than Kidd, though) will not be able to lay claim to best all around player. Then again...
