If anybody wants to talk about anything remotely Warriors related like as in past warriors or favorite/hated warrior/favorite basketball play. Feel free. There's not too much to talk about unless we re-hash al Harrington rumors or talk about 3 utah jazz + POB or guys we know nothing about. Mullin's offseason sure ain't too busy from the looks of it, but it's better he stand pat than screw everything up even more. Like Isiah Thomas doesn't even know when to stop with the Knicks. Luckily this hasn't been Mullin's problem yet. He's just not making enough good moves or putting this team in a position to grow together. I just wish there was momentum going forward but we're just talking about the same get rid of Dunleavy, get Al Harrington, trade/keep Pietrus + Murphy + Biedrins + Fire Monty threads. Same as other boards. How about we do a Warriors poetry contest again?
Yeah, Isiah is like the ultimate frenzied fan who can't wait lol. Didn't NY just offer Jared Jefferies like 5 years $30 mils or something? It's hard to put it into words, but the best I can come up with is: WTF?
Well Isiah is at the point where he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he stands pat, he'll get criticism. If he gets one of the better defensive/rebounding FA Small forwards's out there, he'll get criticism over the whole Renaldo Bilkman drafting or whatever his name is. Isiah was a disaster GM in the making and he pretty much did the "name with no game" type moves like Bulls castoffs Crawford or Curry or guys like another Bull castoff in Jalen Rose/LA clippers' Qrich and non-pure point Steve Francis on top of non-pure point Marbury. The worst move he could have done was get center Jerome James and then not even use him. Talk about ouch. There's been other bad moves but for the longest time they did not have a true center but now they got too many bad centers with one center possibly never living up to the hype because of bball I.Q. and not being aggressive enough to improve on the rest of the center game. It would have been funny if they had Dampier because he is definitely Isiah material and it would have gotten us some decent players in Kurt Thomas or Nazr Mohammed (NY-GS rumored trade). Those two ain't good enough for the Spurs or the Knicks, but crap those guys are useful for us. Injury prone or not they're supposed to be good contract type deals. I swear Dampier only would do well if its 1.) contract year 2.) suitable backcourt that can deliver passes to him in a catchable way (as in Dampier catchable).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">If he gets one of the better defensive/rebounding FA Small forwards's out there, he'll get criticism </div> You're not talking about Jared Jeffries here, are you?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">You're not talking about Jared Jeffries here, are you?</div> Yes. His numbers don't show it, but off the bench he's one of the better offensive rebounding/defensive guys at his position. Plus, he doesn't need touches to be effective. He's like the opposite of Qrich because Qrich will defensive rebound and choose to shoot rather than pass. Jeffries' 2 offensive rebounds average in 25 minutes a play ain't bad. He'd be among the tops if it was more minutes (assuming he ain't playing like Foyle who is in the downside of his career when he became starter in '04).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes. His numbers don't show it, but off the bench he's one of the better offensive rebounding/defensive guys at his position. Plus, he doesn't need touches to be effective. He's like the opposite of Qrich because Qrich will defensive rebound and choose to shoot rather than pass. Jeffries' 2 offensive rebounds average in 25 minutes a play ain't bad. He'd be among the tops if it was more minutes (assuming he ain't playing like Foyle who is in the downside of his career when he became starter in '04).</div> He averaged Adonal Foyle numbers in Adonal Foyle minutes. Adonal: 24 minutes, 4.5 points, 5.5 rebounds Jeffries: 25 minutes, 6.4 points, 4.9 rebounds C'mon CR2 -- Jeffries produced Foyle numbers last year, and you don't mean to say a GM would be willing to pay Foyle anything close to 5 years $30 mils, do you? ..... wait, don't answer that.
Numbers don't show everything though. They play different positions and Jared Jeffries is obviously a guy with better hands and isn't raw like Foyle is. What does Foyle do outside of block shots? Jeffries has the more all-around game, despite being inconsistent as Dunleavy. Actually, I think Jeffries is as valuable as Dunleavy when Dunleavy is having a decent game. But that's like hardly last year. The reason we don't want to touch Jeffries is because at 6'11 is he a PF or a SF? Reaks of tweener and not the good kind, unless he plays like Garnett lite.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">What does Foyle do outside of block shots?</div> Easy now. Big Fella can throw down the dirty-monsta, mamma-jamma, rim-rockin, crotch-grabbin, glass-breakin jimmy-jams on anyone's chrome dome. I've seen Foyle do things where he'll just get that ball at the top of the key and he's all business -- no need for dribbling here, let's cut right to the chase -- he makes that 5-step move into the lane and just elevates, doing a lazy, slow-motion windmill into a crotch-grabbing one-handed leaning-tower-of-piza Dee Brown "cover-your-eyes-with-your-forearm" no-look funky dunk over the outstreched arms of Kwamae Brown, shattering the glass on Brown's chrome dome, and he'll hang on the rim with one hand just long enough to dangle his spread-eagle crotch in Kwamae's grill -- just airing out his trousers -- and then drop and land on top of the fallen Kwamae as the arena goes wild. He'll do the funky bird dance, fluttering his arms at the cameramen, and then he'll do the mock "gravedigger" where he pretends to be holding a shovel and he'll dig an imaginary grave in the hardwood. Also, I've seen Folye get that ball on the right wing, and it's just jab-step, no, jab-step, no, pump fake, pump fake, jab-step, shimmy-shake his shoulders like Antoine Walker, jab-step, jab-step, pump fake, before finally fading away for the "quick release" jumper like Baron does where as soon as he releases the ball he puts his hands down by his sides instead of following through, and it's off-glass, pure cold cash money. So I wouldn't go discounting Foyle's skill set like that.
is isn't bad but if yall want to go in the playoff he needs so be coming off the bench ps:i really like the Warrior family on this board i wish it was like that other at the blazers board
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Easy now. Big Fella can throw down the dirty-monsta, mamma-jamma, rim-rockin, crotch-grabbin, glass-breakin jimmy-jams on anyone's chrome dome. </div> Wow are you sure it wasn't the other center doing that? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post"> I've seen Foyle do things where he'll just get that ball at the top of the key and he's all business -- no need for dribbling here, let's cut right to the chase -- he makes that 5-step move into the lane and just elevates, doing a lazy, slow-motion windmill into a crotch-grabbing one-handed leaning-tower-of-piza Dee Brown "cover-your-eyes-with-your-forearm" no-look funky dunk over the outstreched arms of Kwamae Brown, shattering the glass on Brown's chrome dome, and he'll hang on the rim with one hand just long enough to dangle his spread-eagle crotch in Kwamae's grill -- just airing out his trousers -- and then drop and land on top of the fallen Kwamae as the arena goes wild. He'll do the funky bird dance, fluttering his arms at the cameramen, and then he'll do the mock "gravedigger" where he pretends to be holding a shovel and he'll dig an imaginary grave in the hardwood. </div> Now I remember... I think this was after beating the computer 201 to 42 on easy mode in NBA Live 2003... after I totally messed with Foyle's stats and gave him Jermaine O'neil's. Or was it my cursed addiction to NBA Jam tournament edition? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also, I've seen Folye get that ball on the right wing, and it's just jab-step, no, jab-step, no, pump fake, pump fake, jab-step, shimmy-shake his shoulders like Antoine Walker, jab-step, jab-step, pump fake, before finally fading away for the "quick release" jumper like Baron does where as soon as he releases the ball he puts his hands down by his sides instead of following through, and it's off-glass, pure cold cash money. </div> I'm sure it was off glass off the other side of the backboard. Oh well, can't question the big dude's effort. I'm suprised he caught a pass to even do this. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post"> So I wouldn't go discounting Foyle's skill set like that.</div> You're right the media tends to underrate Foyle's other skills besides shotblocking and thus overlook the fact he is a true anchor in the paint that could will us to the playoffs if it weren't for the cursed Monty. If you liked Foyle, that was nothing compared to Derek Fisher. We're talking skip-to-my- lou like playground legend that can run coast to coast and put up consecutive highlights. We're talking putting a no-look, behind the back 40 foot lob all the way to Jrich for a 360 alley oop play, right on the money! Fisher then immediately rushes forth to steal the inbounds off the made basket, quickly throws the ball up underneath one leg while sandwiched between two defenders and scores for an and1 play! He then misses the free throw on purpose, so he can leap across the lane for a 15 foot monstrous two handed putback (4 point swing!). He then proceeds to make bull horns gestures and pounds his chest until he steals the ball again like the defensive maniac he is. He decides to wait, feeling like a breakway dunk is too beneath him, and has the oppsosing defense get set up again. Fisher does a silly crossover like Timmy Hardaway which causes the double team on him to break their ankles and simultaneously fall on their asses. Fisher tosses the ball off glass, pulls his jersey over his head, finishing with a one handed, 180 reverse righty finish on top of Shaq's noggin.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gee_Dupe11:</div><div class="quote_post">is isn't bad but if yall want to go in the playoff he needs so be coming off the bench ps:i really like the Warrior family on this board i wish it was like that other at the blazers board</div> Thanks man. We'll drop by the Blazers once in a while. I know some about those guys.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">If you liked Foyle, that was nothing compared to Derek Fisher. We're talking skip-to-my- lou like playground legend that can run coast to coast and put up consecutive highlights. We're talking putting a no-look, behind the back 40 foot lob all the way to Jrich for a 360 alley oop play, right on the money! Fisher then immediately rushes forth to steal the inbounds off the made basket, quickly throws the ball up underneath one leg while sandwiched between two defenders and scores for an and1 play! He then misses the free throw on purpose, so he can leap across the lane for a 15 foot monstrous two handed putback (4 point swing!). He then proceeds to make bull horns gestures and pounds his chest until he steals the ball again like the defensive maniac he is. He decides to wait, feeling like a breakway dunk is too beneath him, and has the oppsosing defense get set up again. Fisher does a silly crossover like Timmy Hardaway which causes the double team on him to break their ankles and simultaneously fall on their asses. Fisher tosses the ball off glass, pulls his jersey over his head, finishing with a one handed, 180 reverse righty finish on top of Shaq's noggin.</div> That's what I'm talkin bout!! No, but in all seriousness, you can't diss Foyle. He's just got that nasty streak. He's the type of guy who'll just drop trow at mid-court to show up the opposing bench. And he's a non-stop trash-talker to boot. He's always up in your grill -- I mean nasty sh!t bout your family and heritage. Foyle's justy a nasty mo-fo, he'll come up from behind an opponent during a dead ball -- get his mug right up next to the guy's ear so he can smell his stanky-a$$ swamp breath -- he'll just whisper some nasty-dirty-dog stanky-dank garbage about the fool's momma, and then give him the Adonal Foyle "lazy-crazy-eye" (like that dude Zeus from Friday and other movies) to boot. He'll do a "Darryl Dawkins" two-handed tomohawk jam, and then do his signature "hang on the rim to air out your shorts on the defender's forehead" routine, but then he'll do a chin up on the rim, slap the backboard with both hands on the way down, and then get on one knee so he can lean over and whisper some nasty sh!t in the fallen defender's ear. He's always barkin at someone. He'll bark at the ref all day, I mean loud, of course he'll be barkin at the opposing coach, for instance to Hubie Brown he said "Hubie, you dumb-a$$ b!tch, I'm gonna ruin your team foo! I pity the foo!" He got a T for that one. But he'll even bark at his own teammates. Did you see that replay from the Hawks game last year where Foyle came into the huddle and slapped MDJ on the back of the head so hard he knocked over the water cooler? It took Grabow, Mullin, Biedrins, and Baron just to restrain him. The dude is just plain vicious.
