Dicky V's top 25

Discussion in 'Men's College Basketball' started by J_Ray, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2005
    Messages:
    5,402
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">1. North Carolina
    Roy Williams has a super recruiting class coming in to join Tyler Hansbrough and company. There will be joy on Franklin Street!
    2. Florida
    Joakim Noah, Corey Brewer, Al Horford and company want to be the first repeat champion since Duke. The Gators have a legit shot of doing it.
    3. Kansas
    Rock, chalk, Jayhawk! They will be rocking and rolling in Lawrence as Bill Self's team is loaded.
    4. Ohio State
    Thad Matta needs a healthy Greg Oden. The Buckeyes should be the team to beat in the Big Ten.
    5. UCLA
    Ben Howland is happy Arron Afflalo returned to school. The Bruins are the best in the West.
    6. Pittsburgh
    Jamie Dixon loses guard Carl Krauser but returns Aaron Gray in the middle.
    7. LSU
    Glen Davis decided to stay in school so John Brady has a tough SEC challenger.
    8. Georgetown
    John Thompson III has done a nice job and he has talent up front in Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green.
    9. Alabama
    Ronald Steele is one of the premier point guards in America.
    10. Duke
    Look for big things from Josh McRoberts as he moves into a more natural position up front.
    11. Wisconsin
    12. Marquette
    13. Boston College
    14. Arizona
    15. Connecticut
    16. Villanova
    17. Memphis
    18. Tennessee.
    19. Texas
    20. Louisville
    21. Kentucky
    22. Gonzaga
    23. Texas A&M
    24. Georgia Tech
    25. Xavier
    </div>

    Source

    This stuff pisses me off, how the hell is Arizona #14 behind UCLA, Wisconsin, Pitt, BC, Marquette and LSU? I hate this East Coast bias crap, no way in hell Zona deserves to be that low with all the talent they're returning. They're bring back a hell of a lot more than LSU, Boston College, and Marquette.
     
  2. GatorsowntheNCAA

    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    9,697
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    The Dickie V and ACC and UNC lovefest continues.
     
  3. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2003
    Messages:
    11,032
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">Source

    This stuff pisses me off, how the hell is Arizona #14 behind UCLA, Wisconsin, Pitt, BC, Marquette and LSU? I hate this East Coast bias crap, no way in hell Zona deserves to be that low with all the talent they're returning. They're bring back a hell of a lot more than LSU, Boston College, and Marquette.</div>

    I don't think it's so much east coast bias as it is stupidity. UCLA, Gonzaga, and San Diego State are all higher than they should be.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Dickie V and ACC and UNC lovefest continues.</div>

    Since when does Dickie V has a UNC lovefest? It's Duke you're thinking of. Half or more of America had North Carolina as their preseason #1, and a large majority (myself included) has Kansas #1. It's not radical to have a team other than Florida #1 in the preseason, but that's an old argument better left at rest.

    Anyway, I think his rankings are alright. He really doesn't have half as much knowledge of the game as people give him credit for. He's just a familiar face and an overwhelming personality, so he's gotten a lot of undeserving fame, but I doubt anyone puts too much stock into his preseason rankings. Here are the teams I think he has too high and the ones I think he has too low.

    Too High: UCLA, Marquette, Connecticut, Villanova, Memphis, Texas, Oklahoma State, Wichita State, Arkansas, and South Carolina

    Too Low: Wisconsin, Arizona, Texas A&M, Georgia Tech, Nevada, Virginia, Oregon, and Virginia Tech
     
  4. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2005
    Messages:
    5,402
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Ya, he acts like he's on something everytime you see him. I think he was high when he did this Top 40 poll
     
  5. Gee_Dupe11

    Gee_Dupe11 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    lmao Dicky V is something esle

    Arizone should IMO be top 10

    With Mustafa,Marcus,Juwann,Ivan, and New commer Chase (Could be top 3 pick in like 2 years)The Wildcats are loaded

    Texas IMO will move up by mid season a little hit too (With AJ Abrams and Kevin Durant (could be a 6'10 Guard wow)
     
  6. GatorsowntheNCAA

    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    9,697
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Since when does Dickie V has a UNC lovefest? It's Duke you're thinking of. Half or more of America had North Carolina as their preseason #1, and a large majority (myself included) has Kansas #1. It's not radical to have a team other than Florida #1 in the preseason, but that's an old argument better left at rest.
    </div>


    He loves the entire ACC, especially the best team out of the conference. He was really high about UNC in 05 when they won the championship. He likes Duke more, but UNC is up there in his top 3-4. Like I said in a thread before, I hope they don't rank us #1. That's the one thing that teams won't want to see is the Gators playing with a chip on their shoulder AGAIN.
     
  7. Ming637

    Ming637 BBW Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2003
    Messages:
    3,742
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    I can't wait to see what Georgetown has to offer this year. I was at the game against St. Johns and Roy Hibbert looked unstoppable. They may have lost Brandon Bowman, but they'll manage.
     
  8. freshprinceofuk

    freshprinceofuk JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2006
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Wow Kentucky made his list..
    At this point im not sure UK deserves to be top 25
     
  9. ShortyC20

    ShortyC20 BBW Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    333
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    All you guys stop hating on UNC. UNC is going to extremly well this season.

    Post championship year <u>4</u> Starters were drafted into the NBA. And they still managed to make it to the NCAA torunament and get a couple of wins, lead by freshman senstation Tyler Hansborough. This season canonly get better. The team was beginning to gel together nicely towards the end of last season, and should only get better with new recruits that Roy WIlliams is excellent at.
     
  10. TheFreshPrince

    TheFreshPrince JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2006
    Messages:
    2,323
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Why is gonzaga ranked?
     
  11. Young_Blood

    Young_Blood JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2006
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Dickie V and ACC and UNC lovefest continues.</div>
    Stop hating UNC is going all the way we got a killer squad.
     
  12. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2005
    Messages:
    5,402
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">Why is gonzaga ranked?</div>

    Gonzaga is pretty good that's why.....Derek Raivio, Pendergraft, Heytvelt(Spl?), Micah Downs will be good too.
     
  13. TheFreshPrince

    TheFreshPrince JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2006
    Messages:
    2,323
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    ^^Idk man, raivio isnt anything special, and isnt he their best guy? sorry i cant really follow west coast college bball
     
  14. Gee_Dupe11

    Gee_Dupe11 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Transfer Micah Downs is 4real and they also got baby J. Pargo who is getting better
     
  15. Gee_Dupe11

    Gee_Dupe11 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Transfer Micah Downs is 4real and they also got baby J. Pargo who is getting better

    Watch out for Boston College, we Tyrese Rice, Sean Marshall, Sean Williams, and ofcourse Mr.Dudley
     
  16. babybulls

    babybulls JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2005
    Messages:
    397
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    i love it, I love seeing BC at #13
     
  17. GatorsowntheNCAA

    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Messages:
    9,697
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Remedy:</div><div class="quote_post">All you guys stop hating on UNC. UNC is going to extremly well this season.

    Post championship year <u>4</u> Starters were drafted into the NBA. And they still managed to make it to the NCAA torunament and get a couple of wins, lead by freshman senstation Tyler Hansborough. This season canonly get better. The team was beginning to gel together nicely towards the end of last season, and should only get better with new recruits that Roy WIlliams is excellent at.</div>


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Young_Blood:</div><div class="quote_post">Stop hating UNC is going all the way we got a killer squad.</div>

    I've never said that they wouldn't do well. I was just saying that they shouldn't be #1 when their players haven't proven anything yet.

    Trust me, I've heard that more than anything else. Everyone knows that UNC lost 97% of their scoring or something ridiculous like that last year. With the way UNC recruits, that shouldn't surprise anyone that they did that. Florida was the exact same way, we lost 67% of our scoring(Walsh, Roberson, Lee), but still won a national championship. People were acting like we were supposed to be this good. No one had us ranked at the beginning of the year and I'm sure UNC was ranked because of their name. Billy D shoulda gotten coach of the year over Roy Williams.

    I'm not hating, I'm sure they'll be fine, but when you have to count on a bunch of freshman, that's where it can go wrong(for example, look at UNC's tournament loss to GMU relying on freshman). I just hate it when a team is billed to do so well because of a great freshman class, who hasn't proven anything yet and that they pass the Kansas's and Florida's, whose players have already proven that they can play at a high level throughout a season and it's not like those players have topped out, they are constantly improving. My concern is that some of the UNC recruits will be playing for their draft status, since they would have skipped college if they could have and that could ruin team chemistry(I'm not saying that it will happen, but it could, since no one has ever seen so many top players from one class playing together at 1 school)

    I guess people are forgetting that the defending National Champions are returning their first 7(starting 5, plus 2 best bench players) rotation players with a solid recruiting class(not at the level of UNC, but still a solid class). We only used a 9 man rotation last year, we should use at least a 10-11 man rotation this year. Not to mention Kansas's 3 best players are going from freshman to sophomore year which normally is the jump that shows the most improvement.
     
  18. Gee_Dupe11

    Gee_Dupe11 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting babybulls:</div><div class="quote_post">i love it, I love seeing BC at #13</div>

    thats whats up
     
  19. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2005
    Messages:
    5,402
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^Idk man, raivio isnt anything special, and isnt he their best guy? sorry i cant really follow west coast college bball</div>

    R U Kidding me? Raivio nothing special? He's one of the best 3 point shooters in College basketball. He'll suprise a lot of people this year....
     
  20. Gee_Dupe11

    Gee_Dupe11 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2003
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post">R U Kidding me? Raivio nothing special? He's one of the best 3 point shooters in College basketball. He'll suprise a lot of people this year....</div>

    Agree 100% he should rise in the draft stock this year. him and Micah are deadly shooters
     

Share This Page