What would be your favorite Warrior lineups on the floor?

What would be your favorite Warrior lineups on the floor?

The run n' gun lineup:
Baron Davis - pg
Mickael Pietrus - sg
Jason Richardson - sf
Mike Dunleavy Jr - pf
Zarko Cabarkapa (or Biedrins + Zarko instead of Dunleavy at PF) - C

If we're going all small and a lot quicker, there's not much defense or rebounding anyway unless we have some small, athletic guys that can absolutely rebound the ball over the bigger guys. We got athletes in the backcourt, but not much of anything in the front where we lack the Shawn Marions and the Amare Stoudamires who can get off their feet like a pogo stick. However, in this small offensive lineup we have several units that can go iso in a halfcourt and also run the floor faster than their assignments. They can shoot and for the most part make good decisions with the ball. Rebounding and second chance points would be an issue like in the Foyle/Murphy/Dunleavy lineup or Dunleavy/Murphy/Fisher lineup. There aren't too many guys ready to crash the glass, but plenty to retreat to defense as soon as that shot goes up. Still an interesting lineup because it takes the best playmakers and finishers we have, provided that Baron/Jrich/Pietrus do most of the finishing. Several units can also attack the zone with dribble penetration.


The oversized - halfcourt matchup
Dunleavy Jr. - pg (defends sf, can post up on offense and shoot right over point guard)
Jason Richardson - sg
Mickael Pietrus - sf (defends 6'3, 200 lb type body of a pg, won't work against Chris Paul, AI, Tony Parker, Monta Ellis types)
Ike Diogu - PF/C
Andris Biedrins - PF/C

I would love to revisit using Dunleavy as a point guard because the guy plays like he's 6'1". Seriously, the weird positions is where Dunleavy can shine and it makes the most use of his mismatch since it's wasted when he has to play against really quick and strong small forwards. Pietrus would also get to shine as a lock down defender and a guy who can crash the boards. Andris and Ike and all these other guys can space the floor in various ways especially when it comes to exploiting the zone and finding small pockets inside the key or at the top of the key. Another possibility is hitting the baseline shot on a kickout when a ballhandler attacks inside, forcing the D to collapse.

The defensive lineup
Monta Ellis - PG
Mickael Pietrus - SG
Mike Dunleavy Jr. - SF (as long as he ain't handling those 6'7 quicker type guys that can reliably play SG)
Chris Taft - PF/C (strong defender)
Andris Biedrins - PF/C (double double potential if not hampered by fouls)

Ellis and Piety are both ballhawks with excellent lateral movement.
Dunleavy Jr. is solid, but I think he's gotten a lot better defensively to handle most 6'8, 235 lb lineups. If the small forward is more of a two guard, replace him with Jrich. Taft can be solid as a shotblocker, intimidator and so can Andris Biedrins.

Overall, as much as I pick on Dunleavy and Pietrus, I really like the things they can do if they can do them consistently and without blundering. They are pretty versatile although both lack true positions either skill wise or mentally. I think Dunleavy is a good small forward prospect because he's able to swing between SG/SF, but he doesn't use his size to his advantage and he's got no killer instinct to do the things we need him to do when we need him. His shot touch was horrendous last year. Pietrus, I like him a defensive shooting guard, but I worry about the guy's ability to make the right plays. The shooting guard position is a position that requires good fundamentals like the point guard position.

 

PG - Baron
SG - Monta
SF - J-Rich
PF- Diogu
C - Beans

If we traded Foyle and had Murphy play the C off the bench, Taft C off the bench, Dun SF off the bench, Pietrus SG off the bench, and sign Jose Juan Barera to play second string point. Zarko gets the extra minuntes with O'Bryant

 

Baron
Pietrus
Jrich
Ike
Beans

 

Beans
Diogu
Foyle
Taft
POB




.... why not?

 

Biedrins at pg, eh?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Beans
Diogu
Foyle
Taft
POB




.... why not?</div>

i like that we will dominate the boards and the teams wouldn't be able to guard us. but yesterday i was playing NBa live and i put in:
Baron
J-Rich
Dunleavy
Ike
Taft
i was running teams with that and getting boards but yah i know its just a game but i like this lineup which has speed and D somewhat

 

Honestly though, what about:

pg- Baron Davis
sg- Jason Richardson
sf- Adonal Foyle
pf- Ike Diogu
c- Andris Biedrins

Adonal at the SF makes alot of sense. He's uber-intelligent, so he'll know how to run the plays and distribute the ball. We finally get an athletic playmaker at the 3 who doesn't need alot of touches to be effective. He just needs alot of attempted touches to actually secure a few touches. He would be a matchup nightmare at the 3 (just try to imagine guys like Rashard Lewis or T-Mac trying to stop him -- sure they have him by a few inches but he's got that hard-nosed blue collar thing going). If Foyle can drop about 80 pounds, develop the ability to jump, get an upgraded set of bionic-mechanical hands, learn to throw anything other than a full-court baseball-shot-put pass, and grasp the concept of dribbling a basketball, he'd be a perfect fit at the three:

A lithe, 6'8", 205 pound Adonal Foyle, at the top of the key, gets the swing pass as T-Mac steps out on him. P.S. Foyle is now wearing a Baron Davis beard. Foyle jab steps, jab steps, looks oogle eyed at T-Mac like "oh yeah it's show time baby," puts the ball on the floor -- not to make a move, just to pound it -- pound, pound, pound, the hardwood sings like a conga drum for Adonal, cross over, cross over, shimmy shake, he waves Davis off, he waves Jrich off with a look like "just get out by the three point line fool!", pound, pound, pound, now it's time -- a double-cross-over nearly breaks T-Mac's ankle, he slices by him, spin move past one defender, now here comes Yao in the pant, Adonal, off his slow-motion B-Diddy spin move, gathers himself off two feet and elevates to climb Mount Mutumbo -- er, Mt. Yao -- and throws down a one-handed elbow dunk, clearing Yao's head away with his other hand but not getting called for the foul.

 

AO - Your humor engine has been in overdrive the last few days ;-)

 

I think it's therapy for me

Now if only there was a good SF Giants forum.... nah, everyone would think I was nuts. I'd probably have at least 12 posts just about Ray Durham's sunglasses.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it's therapy for me

Now if only there was a good SF Giants forum.... nah, everyone would think I was nuts. I'd probably have at least 12 posts just about Ray Durham's sunglasses.</div>

Just do what I do, tell yourself that after they did the strike and dumped the world series Baseball has been a joke. Then you lose all emotional attachment. When the steroid stuff comes out, you just laugh, and say "I knew it" and wait to see if the Niners new offensive line has any promise and the Warriors can ever make the playoffs. It's just less pain point.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">Just do what I do, tell yourself that after they did the strike and dumped the world series Baseball has been a joke. Then you lose all emotional attachment. When the steroid stuff comes out, you just laugh, and say "I knew it" and wait to see if the Niners new offensive line has any promise and the Warriors can ever make the playoffs. It's just less pain point.</div>

Actually that Niners O-Line is looking pretty darn tough. I think Snyder and Bass are going to step up, and of course that tandem of Jennings and Allen on the left is a stone wall.

But as far as GS, I do think Adonal is going to convert to SF.

 

Adonal Foyle slimming down for SF. Brilliant! We're talking about no-look, fadeaway area code j's here and more handles than pots and pans.

I agree that the niners offensive line looks better thus far (in preseason). Just like in basketball, a football team needs both offense and defense and big men to anchor the team down. In football, the big dudes give guys with the ball enough time to do their thing, especially the QB. Last year, not a single QB had enough time to actually make a good play because the big men can't protect him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that the niners offensive line looks better thus far (in preseason). Just like in basketball, a football team needs both offense and defense and big men to anchor the team down. In football, the big dudes give guys with the ball enough time to do their thing, especially the QB. Last year, not a single QB had enough time to actually make a good play because the big men can't protect him.</div>

Good analogy. Baron Davis looked just like Alex Smith last year -- they both got beat up because they had no big men to protect them. The Niners got Larry Allen. The Warriors need a guy like him.

Maybe, instead of slimming down to SF, Adonal could add like 40 pounds of pure muscle and "convert" to true center? Or maybe we could bring former NBA enforcers Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer out of retirement?

 

Stick a fork on Giants. They are done and it's getting painful to watch. At least yesterday's Niners game was exciting to watch even if it's a preseason game...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Stick a fork on Giants. They are done and it's getting painful to watch.</div>

It's been painful for a few months now. I don't know why I keep watching. The players mostly look like they just have contempt for eachother. Steve Finley is only thinking about where he'll be playing next year. Moises Alou is only thinking about how he'll quit the team when they fire his dad this off-season. Schmidt is only thinking about putting on a good show and getting paid somewhere else next year. Feliz is wondering what happened to his franchise label, and how he's suddenly aging past his prime into his mid 30s. Jose Vizcaino is wondering how he's still in professionial baseball. Ray Durham is wondering why nobody told him to take his sunglasses off his hat yesterday. Bary Bonds.....

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly though, what about:

pg- Baron Davis
sg- Jason Richardson
sf- Adonal Foyle
pf- Ike Diogu
c- Andris Biedrins

Adonal at the SF makes alot of sense. He's uber-intelligent, so he'll know how to run the plays and distribute the ball. We finally get an athletic playmaker at the 3 who doesn't need alot of touches to be effective. He just needs alot of attempted touches to actually secure a few touches. He would be a matchup nightmare at the 3 (just try to imagine guys like Rashard Lewis or T-Mac trying to stop him -- sure they have him by a few inches but he's got that hard-nosed blue collar thing going). If Foyle can drop about 80 pounds, develop the ability to jump, get an upgraded set of bionic-mechanical hands, learn to throw anything other than a full-court baseball-shot-put pass, and grasp the concept of dribbling a basketball, he'd be a perfect fit at the three:

A lithe, 6'8", 205 pound Adonal Foyle, at the top of the key, gets the swing pass as T-Mac steps out on him. P.S. Foyle is now wearing a Baron Davis beard. Foyle jab steps, jab steps, looks oogle eyed at T-Mac like "oh yeah it's show time baby," puts the ball on the floor -- not to make a move, just to pound it -- pound, pound, pound, the hardwood sings like a conga drum for Adonal, cross over, cross over, shimmy shake, he waves Davis off, he waves Jrich off with a look like "just get out by the three point line fool!", pound, pound, pound, now it's time -- a double-cross-over nearly breaks T-Mac's ankle, he slices by him, spin move past one defender, now here comes Yao in the pant, Adonal, off his slow-motion B-Diddy spin move, gathers himself off two feet and elevates to climb Mount Mutumbo -- er, Mt. Yao -- and throws down a one-handed elbow dunk, clearing Yao's head away with his other hand but not getting called for the foul.</div>

That dream got me to stop drinkin' rum for good. Just beers and a wee shot of whiskey every hour or so-----

I had a dream I went fly fishin' with jenna jamison. Caught a couple of rainbows. Woke up with a half eaten tuna sandwich. Sure beat them wierd Foyle dreams.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Beans
Diogu
Foyle
Taft
POB




.... why not?</div>

Why not? because Monty would still run the perimeter game. From 25 it's doubtful Beans or Foyle can hit the backboard at 40%. I'd enjoy seeing Ike play pg-slam an elbow into Iverson's mug and spin round him like he was unconcious (probably would be) that would be a sportcenter moment.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Why not? because Monty would still run the perimeter game. From 25 it's doubtful Beans or Foyle can hit the backboard at 40%. I'd enjoy seeing Ike play pg-slam an elbow into Iverson's mug and spin round him like he was unconcious (probably would be) that would be a sportcenter moment.</div>

That'd be a good lineup to run the triangle offense. Ike could run the point and Foyle could take the "Derek Fisher spot-up" role at the three line.

 

Pressing lineup:
Monta
Richardson/Brown
Pietrus
Dunleavy
Biedrins
I think the team needs to press more this season with a wide array of variations but mostly with Monta. I remember the first time Baron got here the perimeter defensive intensity seemed to have risen and there was a lot of Jason, Pietrus, Zarko, and Dunleavy running the floor. Anybody know anything about McLeod's defense?

Scoring lineup:
Baron
Jason
Pietrus
Diogu
Murphy/Taft/Biedrins
Baron-JRich-Diogu should be a good scoring trio, with a streaky and possibly let alone Pietrus on the outside could be very strong or at least a hotter shooting Dunleavy who is willing to drive more like he started doing last season.

Fast breaks:
Baron
Monta
Jason
Zarko(I liked watching Zarko run his fastbreaks last year, he's quite skilled)
Murphy(need a rebounder to get fast breaks)