2 Busts in this year's roster?

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  1. batman9970

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    SI.com's Photo Gallery dedicated an issue to the NBA's worst draft busts, and guess what? Both of our main big men are included in the list, Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm. I don't know what SI's criteria for being a draft bust is, but I think both Mihm and Brown are developing into solid centers for our team. I think we will see a very productive year out of them this coming season, but they may never become All-Stars. Are they then still considered busts? What do y'all think?
     
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    That just goes to show you how bad the sports media is. They are idiots. Obviously they didn't watch the Lakers during last season at all. Up until he was injured Chris Mihm was playing the best ball of his life and was consistent while doing it. Then when he went down with injury Kwame started playing center and showed that to be a better and more natural position for him by playing alot better especially in the playoffs. Basically they are just idiots especially SI. Ever since ESPN and took over sports media SI has gotten even worse.
     
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    Yeah, Mihm has been playing his best ball while he's been a Laker and I expect Brown to do the same.
     
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    I somewhat agree with their choice. Man... at this point of Kwame Brown's career, he should be a consistent player with his height and body, not just consistent for 1 half of a season. For Chris Mihm, I think the Boston drafted him pretty high, isn't it? He didn't really impact the game that much. It's true, he is getting consistent scoring now but most of his points come from getting the weak side rebound and put back in. Not to mention, he's a foul machine and doens't D his man up that well. Don't get fool by the stat, Mihm is a backup Center at best.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe4life:</div><div class="quote_post">I somewhat agree with their choice. Man... at this point of Kwame Brown's career, he should be a consistent player with his height and body, not just consistent for 1 half of a season. For Chris Mihm, I think the Boston drafted him pretty high, isn't it? He didn't really impact the game that much. It's true, he is getting consistent scoring now but most of his points come from getting the weak side rebound and put back in. Not to mention, he's a foul machine and doens't D his man up that well. Don't get fool by the stat, Mihm is a backup Center at best.</div>
    I agree that Kwame is a bust. No matter which way you look at it, the guy was picked number one overall, and should have a bigger impact to the game than what he is right now. Chris Mihm was picked 7th overall, by the Bulls in the 2000 draft. Chris has improved tremendously last season, and I wouldnt really call him a bust. He IS a servicible starter, and is a top 15 center in the league. He wouldnt be in foul trouble all the time if the refs would stop calling phantom fouls. Remember, he was drafted in the 2000 NBA draft, which had Kenyon Martin going first overall, and some of the other lottery draft picks included Darius Miles, Marcus Fizer, Jamal Crawford, and Strolimile Swift. So basicallly, if you cant call Mihm a bust unless you call basically the whole 2000 NBA draft a bust
     
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    I dont know what Chris Mihm was drafted at but IMO he plays very good for tha Lakers. If tha refs didnt hate him as much he be on the court more and tha Lakers would be a better team. As for Kwame. He's a bust, he was number one, and hasnt produced anything. ANd if your argument is "did you watch him against Phoenix" I'd say yes then reply with "did you watch him all season". I'm sorry 3 good games in the playoffs dont mean anything.
     
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    Brian Cook and Luke Walton (sorry he is undersized regardless of his IQ and skills) just remember the way Kenny Thomas tore him a new one in Sacramento.
     
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    you guys forget Mihm was hyped like mad while at Texas. He was suppose to be a double double machine and provide matchup problems across the league with his atheticism, size, and footwork. I'd say he was a big bust.

    Kwame, while he played decent last year, is still a major bust given the fact he was #1 overall. He's been the 2nd least productive #1 pick only ahead of the Kandi Man over the last decade.
     
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    They are busts but are still good players.
     
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    I'd call them both busts at this point. Huge things were expected out of both and neither of them really reached expectations.
     
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    Yeah there both busts based on what teams expected of them when they were drafted. I think they are doing well with the Lakers however.
     
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    No problem for me.At least we didn't draft them.I think Kwame has still a chance to be somebody in this league and i am happy to have him.
     
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    Busts? Chris Mihm when healthy is a top 10 or 15 center in my books. Kwame is progressing along. I wouldn't consider neither of them busts.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">Busts? Chris Mihm when healthy is a top 10 or 15 center in my books. Kwame is progressing along. I wouldn't consider neither of them busts.</div>
    Mihm, maybe he is, maybe he is not. Like I said, he came in the 2000 draft, which had Kenyon Martin going first overall, and some of the other lottery draft picks included Darius Miles, Marcus Fizer, Jamal Crawford, and Strolimile Swift. So if you call Mihm a bust, then you have to call the whole 2000 NBA draft a bust.

    I dont know what you are talking about when you are saying Kwame isnt a bust. The guy was picked number one overall. No matter which way you look at it, the guy should be having much more of an impact to the game than he is now. When he was picked, people were saying that he would be a star one day in the league. Look where he is now.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">Mihm, maybe he is, maybe he is not. Like I said, he came in the 2000 draft, which had Kenyon Martin going first overall, and some of the other lottery draft picks included Darius Miles, Marcus Fizer, Jamal Crawford, and Strolimile Swift. So if you call Mihm a bust, then you have to call the whole 2000 NBA draft a bust.

    I dont know what you are talking about when you are saying Kwame isnt a bust. The guy was picked number one overall. No matter which way you look at it, the guy should be having much more of an impact to the game than he is now. When he was picked, people were saying that he would be a star one day in the league. Look where he is now.</div>

    Jermaine O'neal

    Kwame Brown

    Take a look at their 1st 4 seasons.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">Jermaine O'neal

    Kwame Brown

    Take a look at their 11st 4 seasons.</div>

    Can't use that... look at the starts and minutes played. Jermaine wasn't putting up the numbers because he didn't get the minutes. As soon as he did, his points and rebounds went way up. Kwame, on the other hand, averaged 22.1 minutes per game and 23.5 starts. Jermaine averaged only 11.15 minues and 4.5 starts over his first four years.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Flashback:</div><div class="quote_post">Can't use that... look at the starts and minutes played. Jermaine wasn't putting up the numbers because he didn't get the minutes. As soon as he did, his points and rebounds went way up. Kwame, on the other hand, averaged 22.1 minutes per game and 23.5 starts. Jermaine averaged only 11.15 minues and 4.5 starts over his first four years.</div>

    But still, Kwame is developing. His hands will hopefully get bigger and our coaching staff will try to calm him down and not be so quick to attack.
     
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    As of now, Kwame's a bust. He hasnt proven anything yet in his first four seasons.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Brian:</div><div class="quote_post">As of now, Kwame's a bust. He hasnt proven anything yet in his first four seasons.</div>

    He has proven he can hold his own against the best PF's and C's ala Shaq and Garnett.

    Would you consider him a bust if he were to become like Ben Wallace?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakers4Life:</div><div class="quote_post"> His hands will hopefully get bigger.</div>

    What? dude nothings getting bigger he's a grown man!!!
     

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