<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Slam Magazine - In a recent Q&A session with Slam Magazine, Kevin Garnett stated he'd like to see management make more player acquisitions and hinted at the possibility of leaving Minnesota if the team doesn't improve. Regarding the moves management made so far, Garnett said, "I feel like getting Mike James was a start, but that?s not enough. We need some more solid players to contribute..." When asked if he'd want to leave Minnesota if the team didn't improve, Garnett said, "I got to...If you?re not working towards a championship, then why are we in this? I?m in it to win, man, I?m not in it to be coming back talking about next year. I?m 30. I?ve probably got 4 to 5 years, you know what I?m saying? My clock is ticking, man. I?m almost like a woman who?s trying to get pregnant. My years are limited, so my clock is definitely ticking." [READ]</div> http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...nett_wants_out/ Im fine with trading anyone but Hinrich, Gordon, or wallace. Leaving or lineup Hinrich Gordon ? KG Wallace Who ever we have left will be good enough to make us a for certain championship contender. Maybe even a shoe-in.
If we ever get KG I will be ecstatic, but each year the rumor seems more and more like a pipe dream than something with any realistic chance of happening. I don’t think Paxson is going to trade Tyrus Thomas and several other young players for KG he seems to really be in love with Tyrus and thinks he is the next big thing. I don’t know if we ever got KG, depending who we gave up, I would be the happiest person on earth.
Well if they can get KG it would probably have to be a deal involving Deng or Noc. They may even be able to steal him away if he's interested enough by giving up draft picks, a decent player, and cash. Mind you they have the expenses to do this.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives...nett_wants_out/ Im fine with trading anyone but Hinrich, Gordon, or wallace. Leaving or lineup Hinrich Gordon ? KG Wallace Who ever we have left will be good enough to make us a for certain championship contender. Maybe even a shoe-in.</div> Who are you guys going to get KG without trading those players?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Who are you guys going to get KG without trading those players?</div> Chicago Trade Breakdown Outgoing Mike Sweetney 6-8 PF from Georgetown 8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Andres Nocioni 6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign) 13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Luol Deng 6-9 SF from Duke 14.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.4 minutes Incoming Kevin Garnett 6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS) 21.8 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 39.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -31.3 ppg, -15.6 rpg, and -6.4 apg. Minnesota Trade Breakdown Outgoing Kevin Garnett 6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS) 21.8 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 39.0 minutes Incoming Mike Sweetney 6-8 PF from Georgetown 8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Andres Nocioni 6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign) 13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Luol Deng 6-9 SF from Duke 14.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.4 minutes Change in team outlook: +31.3 ppg, +15.6 rpg, and +6.4 apg Successful Scenario Due to Chicago and Minnesota being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Chicago and Minnesota had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ In short, it IS possible, its just that it probably would not be in the best interest of Chicago to do it. They're giving up way too much depth, and with Garnett's contract, its pretty much impossible to get any more role players to fill up the bench with.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Chicago Trade Breakdown Outgoing Mike Sweetney 6-8 PF from Georgetown 8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Andres Nocioni 6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign) 13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Luol Deng 6-9 SF from Duke 14.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.4 minutes Incoming Kevin Garnett 6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS) 21.8 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 39.0 minutes Change in team outlook: -31.3 ppg, -15.6 rpg, and -6.4 apg. Minnesota Trade Breakdown Outgoing Kevin Garnett 6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS) 21.8 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 39.0 minutes Incoming Mike Sweetney 6-8 PF from Georgetown 8.1 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.6 minutes Chris Duhon 6-1 PG from Duke 8.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 29.1 minutes Andres Nocioni 6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign) 13.0 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.3 minutes P.J. Brown 6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech 9.0 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.2 apg in 31.8 minutes Luol Deng 6-9 SF from Duke 14.3 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.4 minutes Change in team outlook: +31.3 ppg, +15.6 rpg, and +6.4 apg Successful Scenario Due to Chicago and Minnesota being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Chicago and Minnesota had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ In short, it IS possible, its just that it probably would not be in the best interest of Chicago to do it. They're giving up way too much depth, and with Garnett's contract, its pretty much impossible to get any more role players to fill up the bench with.</div>If a trade ever did happen I wouldn?t expect it to be this year. I don?t know I think Paxson is to in love with Tyrus Thomas and this current roster to just trade him without giving him even a full season in the system. Also this is not a John Paxson type movie he does not typically make blockbuster trades such as this I don?t know I?m having a hard time buying it.
I don't know how much cap we will have next offseason but if KG does decide to opt out, it would be great if we can sign him but I don't think we will have enough money to sign him. I would love to get him but I don't want to give up our depth to get him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting vcwannabe15:</div><div class="quote_post">Who are you guys going to get KG without trading those players?</div> The Bulls have a lot of young talent. Deng, Duhon, Tyrus Thomas, Thabo, Sweetney, and Nocioni is only 27.
Sweetney, Noc, Deng, Duhon, and Brown for Garnett? Bwah?!!??!? I'm sorry, well no I'm not, but this could never happen for many reasons and a few are.. 1) This type of trade would deplete the team [Bulls] and they would suck complete donkey balls. 2) They wouldn't give up Noc and Deng in a single trade for a player like Kevin Garnett. You would see and at best someone like Sweetney added to the mix, two or three future draft picks, and cash considerations. 3) If this massive of a deal were to go down the Timberwolves would have to give up at least 2 other players in the process or be the ones giving up quite a few draft picks and the cash, which they desperately need.
Yeah, calm down guys, I was simply demonstrating to vcwannabe that Chicago trading with Minnesota is possible. If you guys read my little tidbit afterwards, you'd see that. But yeah, for the most part, I agree with all you guys, it really would be stupid from Chicago to trade away all the young talent, not to mention all their depth for just one player. The Bulls definitely have a lot of players that have value and plus, they're armed with an expiring contract in Brown that could help bring in a big time player like Garnett. The problems I see with pursuing Garnett is that- 1. His contract is ridiculously huge. 2. You'd lose a lot of depth. The trade I put out there actually demonstrates both theses points. They actually need to trade all those players (plus a big expiring one in Brown) to nab him. And like I said earlier, you'd be without a lot of your firepower afterwards- Nocioni, Duhon, Sweetney, and Deng, all of which have a lot of promise as well as providing depth would be gone. In addition, afterwards it would be hard to replace them since well, those players don't come cheap, and besides, Garnett's contract would probably bring Chicago well over the cap meaning they would only be armed with the MLE to replace at least 4 players (including a starting small forward).
While I'd love for him to be here, we'd have to give up WAY too much to get him. Personally, I want to keep hold of our young guys. I don't like the idea of giving up 4 or 5 young guys just to get KG.
It’s the oldest debate in sports, the sports version of which came first the chicken or the egg, do you sacrifice your future in order to experience immediate success? The Heat did it when they traded Odom and Butler for O’Neal a while back (lucky for them they held on to Wade) and we all saw how that turned out. I don’t think I would do it though to be honest. The worst time in this franchises history where the years right after the dynasty fell apart the team had no direction and became the laughing stalks of the league. I don’t want to experience that again. Although, this move would put us in contention for the next four years, when KG and Wallace fall off/or retire we will be back at the drawing board. On the other hand we could keep this team together, and try and make a run at a title with the team as is, then if it doesn’t work out we still have a couple of years to watch these players develop and grow. Who knows how good they can be? I don’t know, but I would not do a KG trade that involves giving up both Deng and Nocioni or the combination of Deng and Gordon.
Damn, this slam interview has caused some crazy ideas. I think we would recquire tt and gordon for kg plus 3 first rounders
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, this slam interview has caused some crazy ideas. I think we would recquire tt and gordon for kg plus 3 first rounders</div> Who is TT? If you get Tyrus and Gordon there is no way the Bulls would include three first round picks. Gordon has already shown the potential to be a prime time scorer, and Tyrus Thomas has arguably the biggest upside out of anyone in this years draft class. That is two top three selections that you are getting (based on where they were picked). You want three more first rounders for a guy who hits free agency in one year? Paxson is no dummy.
^^He CAN opt out, that doesnt mean he is going to. McHale is an idiot, but hopefully isnt dumb enough to take that first offer
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">^^He CAN opt out, that doesnt mean he is going to. McHale is an idiot, but hopefully isnt dumb enough to take that first offer</div> Even if he didn?t opt out he would only be under contract two more seasons after that he would be free game for anyone in the league. I don?t think the Bulls will give up that much for Garnett. I honestly don?t expect many future picks to be involved the players I could see being involved in a trade are Tyrus, Deng, and possibly Duhon.
I'd take TT, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, Knicks pick, and your next year for it to happen, but then again im not mchale so it doesnt really matter
That won't happen, God I don't get how anyone could think Kevin Garnett is worth Thomas, Gordon, Deng, Duhon, and a first rounder. Seriously man, the best you'd get from the Bulls would be Deng, a PF like Brown or Sweetney, and a first rounder with a good amount of cash. The Bulls have cash, so the Wolves would want that second next to a player like Deng.
