Your opinion on Jordan and Iverson

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  1. Bobcats

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  2. hustler

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">He's 16. He's a big fan of Iverson so I guess it's going to his head. It's kinda funny though.</div>
    Then you can't blame him...I mean I know Kobe and Lebron fans (not you guys on JBB), that think they are better than Jordan.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">More tattoos?</div>
    Oh yes of course, I forgot about that prime basketball accomplishment [​IMG]
     
  4. Moo2K4

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheBlackMamba:</div><div class="quote_post">Plain and simple, show him an organized chart.
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    Allen Iverson Career Accomplishments</u>
    -2001 MVP
    -NBA 1st Team: 1999, 2001, 2005
    -NBA 2nd Team: 2000, 2002, 2003
    -NBA 3rd Team: 2006
    -7 Time NBA Allstar
    -2 Time NBA Allstar Game MVP
    -4 Time NBA Scoring Leader, average
    -1 Time NBA Scoring Leader, Total Points (2005)
    -3 Time NBA SPG Leader
    -2 Time NBA Total Steals Leader
    -NBA Rookie of the Year, 1997
    -NBA All-Rookie Challenge MVP
    -One of only three players in NBA history to rank among the top five in points, steals, and assists per game average in a season
    -Shares NBA record for most seasons leading league in steals with 3
    -19,115 career points (so far)
    -Career Scoring Average is 28.0 PPG, 3rd All time
    -2nd in Playoff Scoring Average, behind MJ
    -As of the end of the 05-06 season, Iverson has recorded 84 games in which he scored 40 or more points
    -As of the end of the 05-06 season, Iverson has recorded 13 games in which he scored 50 or more points
    -He set the Sixers all-time rookie record with 1,787 points
    -10th fastest player to reach 14,000 points on January 23, 2004
    -named an Eastern Conference All-Star starter in 2005 for the 6th year in a row


    <u>Michael Jordan Career Accomplishments</u>
    -Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"
    -Scored 40 or more points in 209 games
    -Scored 50 or more points in 39 games
    -Recorded 29 triple-doubles
    -5-time regular-season MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98)
    -6-time NBA champion (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
    -Averaged 33.6 ppg, 6.0 rbg, and 6.0 apg (NBA Finals averages)
    -6-time Finals MVP (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
    -All-Star Games: Selected 14 times (1984-85, 1985-86, 1986-87, 1987-88, 1988-89, 1989-90, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98, 2001-02, 2002-03) He started in 13 of the 14 years, including his rookie season, and missed one due to injury.
    -3-time All-Star MVP (1987-88, 1995-96, 1997-98)
    -Recorded the first All-Star Game triple-double (14 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists in 1997, in Cleveland)
    -Most Steals in All Star History (35)
    -10-time regular-season leader in points (1986-87, 1987-88, 1988-89, 1989-90, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
    -9-Time All-NBA Defensive First Team (1987-88, 1988-89, 1989-90, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
    -10-Time All-NBA First Team (1986-87, 1987-88, 1988-89, 1989-90, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
    -NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88)
    -NBA Rookie of the Year (1984-85)
    -All-NBA Second Team (1985)
    -2-Time Slam Dunk champion (1986-87, 1987-88)
    -Won two Olympic gold medals (1984, 1992)
    -3rd All-Time Leader in Points
    -4th All-Time Leader in Free throws Made
    -3rd All-Time Leader in Steals per game
    -2nd All-Time Leader in Total Steals
    -Single Season NBA record holder Blocked Shots by a guard (131) 1987-88
    -All-Time NBA record Blocked Shots by a guard
    -5th All-Time Leader in Minutes per game
    -16th All-Time leader in Minutes played
    -3-Time NBA leader in Steals
    -NBA Record for most appearances on the All-Defensive First Team
    -3rd All-Time NBA leader for most points scored in a season (3,041)
    -5th All-Time NBA leader for most points averaged in a season (37.09)
    -All-Time NBA single-game records for most free-throws made in one half (20)
    -All-Time NBA record for most consecutive games scoring in double-digits (842)
    -All-Time NBA record for most seasons leading the league in field-goals made (10)
    -All-Time NBA record (shared) for most seasons with 2,000 or more points (11)
    -All-Time NBA record for most consecutive seasons leading league in scoring (7, 1986-87 through 1992-93)
    -All-Time NBA Playoff record in Points per game (33.4)
    -All-Time NBA Playoff record for points scored (5,987)
    -All-Time NBA Playoff record for most free throws made (1,463)
    -All-Time NBA Playoff record for most steals (376)
    -2nd All-Time NBA Playoff leader for field-goals made (2,188)
    -5th All-Time NBA Playoff leader is assists (1,022)
    -Recorded two playoff career triple-doubles
    -All-Time NBA record for most seasons leading league in scoring (10)
    -All-Time NBA record for most points in a Playoff game (63)
    -5th All-Time Highest single-season scoring average (37.1ppg, 1986-87)
    -First player in league history to record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season (125 blocks, 236 steals)
    -Finished 1984-85 Rookie season averaging 28.2 ppg
    -All-Time NBA record for most consecutive points in a game (23)
    -Lead the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best Regular season record, with 72 wins, 10 losses
    -Lead the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best combined Regular and Post Season record with, 87 wins, 13 losses
    -Only player in NBA history to win the scoring title 8 times
    -Won the title a record 10 times
    -Won the 1995-96 Regular Season MVP, All-Star MVP, and NBA Finals MVP
    -All-Time oldest player and only player at age 40 or older to score 40 points in an NBA Game (43 points, 10 rebounds)
    -Holds 47 Chicago Bulls' Records
    -Holds 4 Washington Wizards Records (I was there for 3 of them)
    -Naismith College Player of the Year: 1984
    -John R. Wooden Award: 1984
    -Adolph Rupp Trophy: 1984
    -ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year: 1983?84
    -# NCAA National Championship - University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: 1982


    God, I love wikipedia</div>Couldn't have said it any better myself. Jordan is one of the most accomplished players in the sport. He defined greatness in this sport. No one has really come close to what he's done, not just individually, but for the sport in general.
     
  5. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    No mamba..i said hun?? like ???
     
  6. durvasa

    durvasa JBB Rockets Fan

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">No mamba..i said hun?? like ???</div>

    What does "hun" mean? That's usually used as a shorthand for "honey", here, which is a term of endearment for a loved one.

    Did you mean, "huh"?
     
  7. Brasco

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">What does "hun" mean? That's usually used as a shorthand for "honey", here, which is a term of endearment for a loved one.

    Did you mean, "huh"?</div>

    Here? he's form the same city as you durvasa lol.
     
  8. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">What's the problem, cutey?</div>

    that's the problem, I prefer cutey! [​IMG]
     
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    Whats your friends argument, I want to hear them (However wrong they may be)
     
  10. NJNetz

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shiver:</div><div class="quote_post">Whats your friends argument, I want to hear them (However wrong they may be)</div>


    It's simple. He thinks Iverson has more accomplishments and is an overall better player than Jordan. This is his arguement and he refuses to think otherwise, even when I show him that he is wrong.
     
  11. durvasa

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">It's simple. He thinks Iverson has more accomplishments and is an overall better player than Jordan. This is his arguement and he refuses to think otherwise, even when I show him that he is wrong.</div>

    This is what you do. You propose a game with your friend. He names an accomplishment Iverson has that Jordan doesn't, and you do the same for Jordan. You go back and forth. Who ever can't go on loses.

    I expect you'll win after one or two exchanges.
     
  12. Skiptomylue11

    Skiptomylue11 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Well I don't know why your friend even bothers with comparing Iverson to Jordan, that's like comparing a Ford Pinto to a Chevrolet Vega, you should be comparing him to a BMW, like Milt Palacio. [​IMG]
     
  13. bbwSwish

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    BlackMamba pretty much finished off this thread. That's my baby!
     
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    I suggest you break apart your friendship with this person......just tell him to youtube Michael Jordan.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NbaBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">It's simple. He thinks Iverson has more accomplishments and is an overall better player than Jordan. This is his arguement and he refuses to think otherwise, even when I show him that he is wrong.</div>

    Tell him to say like details, thats what I meant.
     
  16. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    lol durvasa. i mean like han?? or huh i guess
     
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    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    I suggest you never speak to this indiavidual again [​IMG]
     
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    There isn`t much explanation here. Both players are/were amazing to the game but MJ owned all the NBA had to offer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">i really hope this is a joke.

    Iverson-league mvp once,all-star mvp twice(i dont think all star mvp is a GREAT accomplishment though) 7 time all nba (3 1st and 2nd and 1 3rd) led the league in scoring 4 times and led the league in steals 3 times. iverson had 84 games with 50 or more points, and 13 with 50 or more.



    Jordan-40 or more in 209 games. 50 or more in 39. 5 time regular season mvp. 6 time finals mvp. (i think this is more than enough to show jordan is better lol). has 4 nba final records, 3 time alstar mvp (not a great accomplishment). led scoring 10 seasons, 9 time all nba 1st defensive team. 10 time all nba 1st team. 1 defensive player of the year.

    theres a lot more i can list but i dont want to [​IMG] lol</div>
    Those accomplishments and stats are givin you TheAnswer anyway... Silly argument, I understand if u trade about MJ and Magic or Kareem and Wilt or smth .
     
  20. durvasa

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">lol durvasa. i mean like han?? or huh i guess</div>

    "han"? Never heard that.
     

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