Harrington appears headed elsewhere (not Indiana)

Nice! Thx for the update Kennedy.

Nice take AF. I say in the end it is better for us long term. We cannot rebound from a bad season anyway unless every role player we have is playing up to his abilities and playing more like a team. The Warriors have not really played like a real team because they never fit well together or they just didnt have what it takes to finish defensively or execute smart and patiently. Plus, it took a while before Jrich really came into his own but he is still limited against guys like Bruce Bowen or Shawn Marion. Those guys shut his ass down easy. If Baron Davis could actually shoot, he is the only one that is near unstoppable.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude... we pay 9 mil per for an AWFUL starting SF.</div>

Tell me something i don't know hehe

Doesn't make paying 11 per for an average SF a better idea

Like AO said in a post a ways back, what we really need from the SF spot is MDJ playing to his perceived/expected ability. Couldn't agree more. I've thought for a while that his upside is detlef schrempf (sp?), and I think we'd all be plenty happy if he played to that level.

edit: just as i think none of us would be talking about trading Murphy if he consistently played defense like he did during that stretch early in the season.

if if if LOL

 

It's easy to say that what we need is MDJ to play how we need him to play. But it's highly unlikely to happen.

It's one of those situations where it's like saying "Theres always a chance, but it's never going to happen"

 

This is a good thing for the Warriors. The decision was made for them. One less thing to screw up. With all the promises Mullin made this off-season, and with all the losing going on around here, and with all the bad contracts on this team --- I think most of us have been pretty itchy for a trade. But this was not a good one; it would have temporarily satiated our hunger for change but would really do little to improve the structure of the team and/or the cap.

Now, the Dunleavy for Maggettee deal ... that's a different story.

edit: DTKennedy -- I still hold firmly to that belief. The Warriors are lacking production from 2 areas: SF and C. More importantly they're lacking ball movement and execution. As far as C, excluding Foyle, it really is intriguing what with Beans, Taft, and POB all in the mix. As for SF, what they need is a player exactly like MDJ was touted to be. I'm not saying that's how he played, but if he fulfilled the hype, the Warriors would probably be a playoff team. If I had to trade for a SF, my shopping list would be a mirror image of Dun's resume:

1)Good Passer
2)Doesn't need many touches to be effective
3)Good ball handler, understands the plays
4)Moves well without the ball
5)Can cause match up problems
6)Can shoot

Now, he hasn't fulfilled the expectations. However, if he could give the Warriors 15-5-5 this year with consistency, GS will have something brewing.

That being said, Magettee for Dun is still a no brainer

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HiRez:</div><div class="quote_post">On a site note regarding that article, why the hell is JRich waiting until now to have this knee surgery? I don't like the sound of that at all. Apparently he and the team knew about the problems last season (as he sat for a bunch of games) but waits until the end of August tot have the surgery done? Wouldn't June have made more sense?</div>

Because you dont resort to surgery as your first option. You always want to treat a condition as conservatively as possible. He has probably been on a precise rehab program until now. The problem was probably minor and the surgery is obviously minor. He is probably cleaning up and smoothing down the cartilage and will be back on the court within a few weeks.

 

AO, yeah, it doesn't help that two 12th men playing in the starting rotation have euro project backups at SF and C that can't stay out of foul trouble or avoid doing something stupid. Oh, and they have a coach still trying to get them to pass, cut, and do something smart with the ball when they can't rebound, play help/transition defense or do anything honest when they can't run out... ...but you can't draw blood from a stone.

Right now we are the Clippers before they got guys like Cassell/Mobley and had them built AROUND Elton Brand and paired up with a decent project/prospect center.

Mullin is forced to build around Jrich and Baron Davis, but we still have no anchor in the paint like Elton Brand (unless Ike is a lite version of him). Plus, we better hope somebody picks up the ball like Chris Kaman did last season. Jason Richardson and Baron Davis could be overrated if they can't distribute or shoot the ball as well as Mobley/Cassell can. Bdiddy/Jrich backcourt shoots worse free throws than our power forwards and they take a lot of shots from deep because there is nothing honest inside about Murphy/Foyle as passers or inside scorers. Thus, the ball never goes inside much and defenders play off the backcourt or stack the middle where they can foul hard without worrying about free throw penalties or the bonus (as long as opposing star players don't get in foul trouble).

Playoff teams had guys in the paint that could pass and score and move the ball some like Webber/Brand/Dirk Nowitski (not a paint guy but has a center to protect him)/Shaq/Dampier (contract year)/Yao/Duncan/etc. Now if we find a star in the paint and the backcourt is actually Baron/Jrich for at least 78 of the games in a season, I think we'll do fine. I just think it's hard for that thing to happen when we've primarily built our team through the draft and we haven't made any Clipper-like trades. Mully pretty much stood pat like he did in '05 (with the exception of Dunleavy re-signing). Mullin isn't really building the team around the guys he should, which is unfortunate.

 

Nevermind.

 

AO, I'm going to go ahead and paraphrase Rick Barry here. MDJ, nice kid, lots of skills, doesn't have the killer instinct to really go ahead and do what the team needs him to do to help put them in a position where they can go ahead and win in the NBA

Of course, if he went ahead and got that instinct, different story

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DTKennedy:</div><div class="quote_post">AO, I'm going to go ahead and paraphrase Rick Barry here. MDJ, nice kid, lots of skills, doesn't have the killer instinct to really go ahead and do what the team needs him to do to help put them in a position where they can go ahead and win in the NBA

Of course, if he went ahead and got that instinct, different story </div>

Heh heh, I had almost forgotten what that distinct piercing ring of the Rick Barry gobbledegook felt like since he's been gone from KNBR -- I can actually turn on that station once in a while

But yeah, if Dun-dun-da-dun-dun can go ahead and do the types of things that successful players do at this level on both ends of the court in the National Basketball Association, then I'll have to go ahead and boldly predict that he might have a chance to go ahead and do some things and these types of things.