<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">More than a few of you got quite disgruntled last week when it was suggested that maybe ? just maybe ? what had been going on at the world championships with the American team was a portend of what was going to happen with Chris Bosh and the Raptors this coming season. The point was made that maybe Bosh would have a difficult time adjusting to a Phoenix-style offence if that's indeed what Sam Mitchell has in mind. The point, and I stick by it, is that T.J. Ford and Morris Peterson and Fred Jones and Anthony Parker are probably going to be able to adapt more quickly than Bosh, who is good in the high pick-and-roll out of a halfcourt set and good with his back to the basket. The comparisons in the e-mails and letters we got were to the likes of Shawn Marion and Amare Stoudemire, two bigs who've thrived under that style. Well, that's apples and oranges. Marion's game extends out to the three-point line, Bosh's doesn't and Toronto is going to need Bosh on the defensive boards ? which makes him a trailer in a fast-break offence rather than a finisher ? much more than Phoenix needs Marion. And Stoudemire is just a freak. A freak with a serious knee problem, but a freak nonetheless. To think Bosh can do what he does is ridiculous; not to bash Bosh but he doesn't have the explosiveness, nor the dunking ability of Stoudemire. I do think Bosh will still get his 20 and 10, but it's going to be in a relatively traditional offence. I think the guys who'll thrive in a running game are Peterson, Jones, Parker and Joey Graham. Let the cards and letters start.</div> Source
Yes he can. I'm pretty sure Bosh and Andrea will be on the floor together quite often this year, and with one of them playing the 5, that could be a huge advantage if we run. Also, both are very capable shooters. Defensively however..........
I'm worried that our already horrid defense will continue to suffer as we try to force fast-breaks. Phoenix is just a crazy team that can pull that type of stuff off I don't think we will be able to do it. If we improve our D, and take the fast-breaks that have decent opportunities that would be my favourite scenario. PG: TJ Ford SG: Fred Jones SF: Mo Pete PF: Bosh C: Rasho Bench: Anthony Parker/Joey Graham, Garbajosa, Bargnani 2004-2005 Spurs PG: Parker SG: Ginobli SF: Bowen PF: Duncan C: Rasho Bench: Brent Barry, Horry, Nazr I see the lineup more similar to the Spurs, if we get some good chemistry on offense and defense then we can mold ourselves into a good team.
Skip, our defence has improved drastically IMO. TJ Ford is the weakest defender. The rest of the guys are solid defenders, Bosh proved that he can step up his defence (when he played for the US). Were not really AS bad a defensive team. Keep in mind that not everyone will be running the break. Rasho can't get up and down (to keep up with Ford) and Bosh will be a trailer on the break..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PosterYouCuz:</div><div class="quote_post">Skip, our defence has improved drastically IMO. TJ Ford is the weakest defender. The rest of the guys are solid defenders, Bosh proved that he can step up his defence (when he played for the US). Were not really AS bad a defensive team. Keep in mind that not everyone will be running the break. Rasho can't get up and down (to keep up with Ford) and Bosh will be a trailer on the break..</div> actually i think bosh might be the worst defender on the raps; ford can't defend bigger guards but thats a conseqence of him being a diminutive guard, while bosh just gets lost.
We should have kept Charlie V, who is more suited for the running game, and traded Bosh for TJ ford and someone else or for another run 'n' gun PG.
I'm not sure if I'd want anyone else from the Bucks. Bosh just signed an extension to stay with the team, not to get traded away. He is almost untouchable and I think Collangello did the trade not only because we didn't a point gaurd but to increase the chemistry knowing Bosh and TJ were close.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DIRK4L1FE:</div><div class="quote_post">We should have kept Charlie V, who is more suited for the running game, and traded Bosh for TJ ford and someone else or for another run 'n' gun PG.</div> I hope you're joking.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting McGrady^1:</div><div class="quote_post">lol trading bosh? i probably wouldn't even trade bosh to the bucks for tj ford and redd and bogut.</div> I would consider Ford and Bogut for Bosh. I don't like Redd's contract, so exclude him. We could have drafted Morrison or Gay, because our Center depth would have been good enough. PG: Ford/Calderon SG: Mo Pete/Fred Jones SF: Morrison/Graham/Anthony PF: Charlie V/Garbajosa C: Bogut/Rasho
I think charlie will probably be an amazing player, but it is worth noting that: 1) Bosh is more proven at this point 2) Charlie's defense is way worse than Bosh's for the point he's at in his career. So, if we traded Bosh away and kept CV3 it could work out in the end, but it's risky. Given our record over the past few seasons and general attitude towards all the european signings i don't think there'd be too positive a reaction if we sent bosh out the door. It's basically instant career suicide for Colangelo if it doesn't work out.
I know, I agree it would be riskier to trade Bosh (a centerpiece of the team). I'm just saying that Bogut and Ford for Bosh is a trade I would consider.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">I know, I agree it would be riskier to trade Bosh (a centerpiece of the team). I'm just saying that Bogut and Ford for Bosh is a trade I would consider.</div> Oh i was just noting that generally, i wasn't trying to rip your post or anything. Bogut and Ford for bosh sounds interesting ... but scary at the same time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting asdf:</div><div class="quote_post">Bogut and Ford is tempting... But Charlie V is too unproven to have the team built around him.</div> It wouldn't be built around him, it would be a shared offense. Where Ford, Fred Jones, Mo Pete, Charlie V, or Bogut would be options. Mo Pete would be the veteran voice. It would be a similar build to what Chicago's team was the last two years. It wasn't one player that scored everything, sometimes Deng, Nocioni, Gordon, Hinrich, Duhon, Chandler, etc. Or a poor man's Detroit.
Whats done is done guys. We have traded CV for TJ, and thats the way its going to be. Im happy with the move. And yes, CB4 can and will improve with the new style.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dunkzilla20:</div><div class="quote_post">Whats done is done guys. We have traded CV for TJ, and thats the way its going to be. Im happy with the move. And yes, CB4 can and will improve with the new style.</div> OK, how about then trading Bosh for Bogut and CV31? For some reason I don't think the Bucks would consider that. However Bosh for Ford and Bogut seems reasonable.
