Bonzi Wells Visits Houston

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  1. The Dream

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    who knows?....all I'm worried about is this year.
     
  2. TmacGarnett

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    I can't say that I am happy about this or sad because Bonzi is a headcase and there is a chance he might not fit the system. He is an instant impact type player who can do things on the court and give Tmac a breather. The only problem I see with this is the fact that Bonzi and Shane will play the same position most likely.
     
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    I don't think adding Bonzi Wells can be a bad thing, and it's not like we could sign anyone his caliber with what's left of our MLE anyways. I'll applaud this move if we pull it off. Wells, as others have already said, can provide a steady third scoring option, although I won't put too much thought into his playoff performance. After all, Jerome James also carried Seattle in the playoffs two years ago; look at him and the Knicks now.

    This will be a tough 48 hours to wait out! [​IMG]
     
  4. ROCK4LIFE

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't ignore any of that stuff. I addressed his positives and negatives, whereas you only want to look at the positives. It's funny how you always accuse others of doing exactly what you do. Bonzi Wells is not a "very good defender", by the way.</div>
    U seem to be the only one who thinks Bonzi's defense is anything but good. His defense was good in Portland (maybe why he was always left guarding Kobe) and it was good in Sacremento. I don't know where ur getting "these stats" from, but his defense has always been respectful.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">And I put more stock on what a player did in the regular season than in a playoff series. Bonzi happened to get hot at the right time. Good for him. But what he did in the regular season last year will be more indicative of his production.</div>
    He played good in the regular season and had a great playoffs. Ur in serious denial[​IMG] If Bonzi isn't good enuff for you, then please give me somebody who is realisitically a better fit.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Neither Wells or McGrady are effective spot up shooters. We have a whole team of shooters? When did that happen? We signed one consistent, proven outside shooter in the offseason.</div>
    Mcgrady isn't a good spot up shooter? Give Mcgrady open jumpers and he's bound to average 40pts a game easily.
     
  5. umair

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    We basically made the best of our MLE i belive. But not to get too far ahead, remember, Bonzi may not sign with us. I am going to watch Fox26 in 20 minutes to find out some info. But I don't mind Bonzi at all, its not like we could have spent our MLE on a better player than Bonzi. Bonzi is the best FA available, and getting him is very good for us. We couldn't have done anything with the money we had left, might as well get the best FA available. So i am all good with the trade.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">U seem to be the only one who thinks Bonzi's defense is anything but good. His defense was good in Portland (maybe why he was always left guarding Kobe) and it was good in Sacremento. I don't know where ur getting "these stats" from, but his defense has always been respectful. </div>

    I didn't cite an stats for the defense. Based on my observation, his one on one defense isn't strong. He'd probably match up better against SFs than guards.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He played good in the regular season and had a great playoffs. Ur in serious denial[​IMG] If Bonzi isn't good enuff for you, then please give me somebody who is realisitically a better fit. </div>

    There isn't a better SG available, that I can think of. Bonzi will add value for us when McGrady or Yao is sitting out. I don't think he'll be particularly effective playing alongside those two players. We'll see.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Mcgrady isn't a good spot up shooter? Give Mcgrady open jumpers and he's bound to average 40pts a game easily.</div>

    Uh huh.
     
  7. igotask8board

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eduardo:</div><div class="quote_post">Like the rest said, I wouldn't mind Bonzi at all since we already have lots of other shooters. We can take advantage of his rebounding and post up skills. Btw igotask, fyi Bonzi is only 6"5, making Snyder taller than he is. [​IMG] I have a question, if Bonzi does end up having a good year with us and so does the team, will we be able to give him a decent contract that he might consider for next offseason?</div>


    Whoa! I could have sworn Bonzi was at least 6-8 if not 6-7. Oh well.
     
  8. Eduardo

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa! I could have sworn Bonzi was at least 6-8 if not 6-7. Oh well.</div>

    Thats what I thought at first glimpse too. I think he's just kinda bulky or something.

    All you salary cap people! Answer my question pleaaaase? Will we have any money to give people like Bonzi or someone else a decent contract after this season?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eduardo:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats what I thought at first glimpse too. I think he's just kinda bulky or something.

    All you salary cap people! Answer my question pleaaaase? Will we have any money to give people like Bonzi or someone else a decent contract after this season?</div>


    I dont think so. If the 08 salary cap is the same as the 07 (which it most likely wont be...it usually goes up a little) than we are $296,587.00 Over the cap. That is if it is the same as the 07 cap (53.135 Million).

    Now if Bob Sura retires by the 08 season that gives us almost 4 million extra to work with. We would be $3,543,413.00 under the cap. So add that to our MLE/LLE (preferrably the mid, but I think you can add/split it however you want). Our MLE would be worth up to 8.7ish million. More than enough for Bonzi.

    The problem is we lose 3 contracts (Bowen, Hayes, Mutombo). T-Macs damn contract goes up 3 mil the 08 season. I have a bad gut feeling we will be trading him this season whether or not he does well.

    Damnit I forgot about V-Span, Lucas, Novak, and all the other scrubs.[​IMG]


    ANYONE...Feel free to correct me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eduardo:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats what I thought at first glimpse too. I think he's just kinda bulky or something.

    All you salary cap people! Answer my question pleaaaase? Will we have any money to give people like Bonzi or someone else a decent contract after this season?</div>


    ummmmm ok... dont u think bonzi wells knew wat the rockets can offer before he met them??? he knows wat the rockets have to offer and if he wasnt intersted he would'nt have met them...

    he's not a good fit but he's a good back up plan incase yao or tmac get hurt... we can try him for the first half of the season and if he doesnt fit we could trade him and get something really good for him!!!!
     
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    if the rockets can pull it off, i'm all for it... they'd have to work something out with Sacramento but hopefully they don't ask for more than a 2nd rounder or something. if it doesn't work out, the deal will be a 1-year contract and no real harm done for next season..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mr. Taz:</div><div class="quote_post"> ummmmm ok... dont u think bonzi wells knew wat the rockets can offer before he met them??? he knows wat the rockets have to offer and if he wasnt intersted he would'nt have met them...
    he's not a good fit but he's a good back up plan incase yao or tmac get hurt... we can try him for the first half of the season and if he doesnt fit we could trade him and get something really good for him!!!!</div>

    Dude..obviously I knew that. I was coming to the conclusion that IF he did sign with us for one year and we actually meshed, if the Rockets would have the cap space to give him a better contract.

    I really don't think anyone is trading T-mac. That is unless his back breaks off during a game [​IMG]

    Thanks igotask [​IMG]
     
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    You guys act like this with EVERY free agent we sign or are about to sign. Bonzi isn't a good fit? He's about the best free agent out there and has all the qualities we need right now. We have enuff spot up shooters, we don't need another Steve Kerr. We NEED somebody who can create their own offense (open shots for teammates), play D, and do the intangables. THAT'S BONZI!. Headcase? I don't care about that and you shouldn't either. Cuz niether does Miami or all the other contenders trying to sign this guy. At some point, you have to take a gamble on a headcase just like Detroit did, jus like Miami did, and jus like the Bulls did. You can't have a team full of softee's and expect to win a championship. Let's just hope Van Gundy has absolutley NO SAY in this. He's known to abort plan A and go give some ol washed Knick a starting job.
     
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    Bonzi's 48 hours is almost up.
    I think its between us and the Bobcats.
    Bobcats got the most money, but want to re-sign M.Ely.

    I said this a while ago and figured the Bobcats would wait and see the bids for Bonzi, and now that its been lowballed, unless the Rocket used the exception to give him more.

    How bad would it be to see the press conference of M.Ely and Bonzi Wells accepting contracts from Charlotte together.
    I believe Bonzi will take the highest bid.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Let's just hope Van Gundy has absolutley NO SAY in this. He's known to abort plan A and go give some ol washed Knick a starting job.</div>
    Other than Charlie Ward, what other player did he do that for?
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    How bad would it be to see the press conference of M.Ely and Bonzi Wells accepting contracts from Charlotte together.
    I believe Bonzi will take the highest bid.</div>
    Same, it makes sense for him too. He could sign like a short one or two year contract with them, stat pad for the seasons (since well Morrison is really the only offensive option), then get a bigger paycheck later on.
     
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    if Bonzi once to fatten his pockets and be on a mediocre team, he'll sign with the bobcats....if he wants be on a contender then Houston should be his choice.....God I hope he chooses the ladder.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">if Bonzi once to fatten his pockets and be on a mediocre team, he'll sign with the bobcats....if he wants be on a contender then Houston should be his choice.....God I hope he chooses the ladder.</div>
    Well, right now he knows the money won't be too good either ways, he just wants to have an opportunity to showcase himself. In Charlotte with Morrison and Wallace, Wells might have to come off the bench; while with just a little effort, Wells can beat out Battier for the starting shooting guard spot. I'd like Battier to start but having one of the two coming off the bench is a luxury.
     
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    We desperately need depth anyway, but he will follow the money.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Houston Chronicle:</div><div class="quote_post">Bonzi Wells: Can a long shot pay off?
    Obviously, if Bonzi Wells made the trip to Houston and chatted the day away with Jeff Van Gundy and Carroll Dawson before hanging around a bit with a couple of the fellahs, he's pretty seriously considering playing for the Rockets despite their financial limitations.

    It would seem safe to assume that his agent let him know about the Rockets' inability to offer the kind of money he has made before and sought this summer. But he chose to check things out, anyway.

    But in yesterday's story, I called the Rockets' efforts to sign Wells a "long-shot pursuit" because it is so rare to get free agent players while offering much less money.

    The Charlotte Bobcats have roughly $9 million of cap space. I don't think they will be offering that much, but I would think Wells could draw just a bit more than mid-level exception money, probably something between $5 million and and $6 million, enough to easily outpay the Rockets.

    Either way, Wells, who turned down a five-year, $36 million offer and made $8 million last season, would likely sign a contract in which he could be a free agent again next summer. If he took the Rockets' cash, he would not cost himself too much if he makes up for the one-year hit with a big contract next season.

    Still, when predicting what free agent athletes will do, we tend to believe the reporting rule, "follow the money." You won't be right all the time, but you won't go wrong too often, either. The Bonzi chase offered a little late-summer excitement, but to me, the Rockets' chances still feel like a long shot.</div>

    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2006/09/bonzi_w...ng_shot_pa.html
     
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    Bobcats aren't gonna waste their cap space on Wells. They will save it for next offseason where the big ballers come to free agency. Wells will come off the bench for the Bobcats because wells at best can play sf or Sg. Gerald Wallace and Adam Morrison take those roles.
     

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