Scott Compares Chandler/Paul to KMart/Kidd

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">With seven seconds left in Thursday's scrimmage quarter, Hornets guard Chris Paul waltzed into the lane and lobbed the ball toward New Orleans' newest skyscraper. Tyson Chandler, 7 feet 1, already towering above the rest of the 6-foot-somethings, leapt into the air, caught the ball and slammed it with ease. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.

    "Tyson is one of those guys who runs the floor, and obviously you can throw him lobs from all over the place," said Hornets Coach Byron Scott, who coached alley-oop combo Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin in New Jersey.</div>

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    chandler is no kmar when he ran with the nets. I guess I could run with paul and you can compare me to kmar in his prime too.
     
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    I don't think he means it in that sense. If he meant it like that, then you could say Chris Paul has a meaner J than J-Kidd.

    I think he means that they have similar chemistry.
     
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    i think if they are running alot and chandler is catching alot of lobs from paul, he could be having a career year.
     
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    I don't know if he's a KMart type of player, but the comparison could work. Both are athletic bigs that can defend, but that's it. KMart at least had some semblance of a jump shot from longer than 8 feet and his offense was more than just tip ins. However, I think that Tyson Chandler could see his career resurrected with Paul. However, I also don't know if he can in the same sense. He's never been the best offensive player to say the least, and his defense is almost all based on his athleticism, not instincts. While I think his offense will definitely get better, though, it's hard to get much worse, I'm not sure how his defense will be affected, especially if they're running, which will take a lot out of him. He's not used to playing a lot of minutes, so it's going to be interesting to see how the amount of playing time, which will likely be increased this year, affects him, not just his stats, but how he plays. If he becomes winded quickly, don't expect too much out of him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know if he's a KMart type of player, but the comparison could work. Both are athletic bigs that can defend, but that's it. KMart at least had some semblance of a jump shot from longer than 8 feet and his offense was more than just tip ins. However, I think that Tyson Chandler could see his career resurrected with Paul. However, I also don't know if he can in the same sense. He's never been the best offensive player to say the least, and his defense is almost all based on his athleticism, not instincts. While I think his offense will definitely get better, though, it's hard to get much worse, I'm not sure how his defense will be affected, especially if they're running, which will take a lot out of him. He's not used to playing a lot of minutes, so it's going to be interesting to see how the amount of playing time, which will likely be increased this year, affects him, not just his stats, but how he plays. If he becomes winded quickly, don't expect too much out of him.</div>

    Totally agree. Chandler's offensive game will improve with Paul and Peja there, but he will have to play a lot of minutes now that PJ Brown isn't there. Kenyon Martin and Jason Kidd btw are definitely the better combo than Paul and Chandler probably ever will be.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Totally agree. Chandler's offensive game will improve with Paul and Peja there, but he will have to play a lot of minutes now that PJ Brown isn't there. Kenyon Martin and Jason Kidd btw are definitely the better combo than Paul and Chandler probably ever will be.</div>That's some unfair judgement right there if you ask me. Those two have yet to play a regular season game together. Beyond that, they're each still very, very young and should have quite a few seasons together because of that. To say that KMart and Kidd are better and that Paul and Chandler will never be better than that duo is completely unfair. At least let them get on the court together for a season before you even think of making judgements like that.
     
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    The comparison is based on ability to run the floor, and overall athletic ability, but KMart actually has scoring skills while Chandler does not. Kmart had no regression in his scoring going from NJN to DEN, and actually slightly improved his FG%. On the other hand, Chandler is a much better rebounder, and a better shot blocker than Martin, they have similar attributes in some ways.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's some unfair judgement right there if you ask me. Those two have yet to play a regular season game together. Beyond that, they're each still very, very young and should have quite a few seasons together because of that. To say that KMart and Kidd are better and that Paul and Chandler will never be better than that duo is completely unfair. At least let them get on the court together for a season before you even think of making judgements like that.</div>

    Chandler isn't nearly as good as KMart and can't stay on the court as long either. The man has fouling troubles in games it's hard for him to play 25+ minutes. KMart, also, is more athletic than Tyson Chandler. Now, JKidd and Chris Paul are an interesting comparison.
     
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    The fact that KMart is better still doesn't take away from the fact that it's still far too early to jump to a conclusion the way you did. Personally, I think Tyson Chandler is going to be much improved in this offense. He's still very young and still has a ton of potential that has yet to be tapped into. I think he could still turn out to be better than KMart. He's already got good defensive abilities, he just now needs to work on using his instincts instead of relying on athleticism. If he can do that, he'll be better about fouling as well, not giving away as many cheap fouls on attempted shot blocks.
     
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    I heard he's been working on a jumper for years!!! I mean c'mon man if you are in the NBA you should be able to make a jumper.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I heard he's been working on a jumper for years!!! I mean c'mon man if you are in the NBA you should be able to make a jumper.</div>

    He can make a jumper

    Chandler has a lot to prove, but I have faith that he and Paul can be a pretty sick dynamic duo. I also agree with Moo, if Tyson can hone his instincts he will be on of the better defensive forces in the league. Until that time however, he again, still has a lot to prove.
     
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    Alright Ramen we'll see. Chandler gets tired too easily and gets into a lot of foul troubles. The man is not a good scorer like PJ Brown and isn't as smart as him IQ basketball wise.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Franchise4Ever Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He can make a jumper

    Chandler has a lot to prove, but I have faith that he and Paul can be a pretty sick dynamic duo. I also agree with Moo, if Tyson can hone his instincts he will be on of the better defensive forces in the league. Until that time however, he again, still has a lot to prove.</div>
    I think he means consistently. Chandler is not a guy you'd count on to make jumpers, every guy in the NBA can make a jumper once in a while. Chandler shot .314 on jumper last season, and he was only taking them when VERY open. In 04-05 when he shot a little more, he shot 26.3% on jumpers, so he really can't make a jumper.

    He will be better this season than last because that was a bad year, and if he can stay on the court long enough, he's a capable double digit scorer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">og15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think he means consistently. Chandler is not a guy you'd count on to make jumpers, every guy in the NBA can make a jumper once in a while. Chandler shot .314 on jumper last season, and he was only taking them when VERY open. In 04-05 when he shot a little more, he shot 26.3% on jumpers, so he really can't make a jumper.

    He will be better this season than last because that was a bad year, and if he can stay on the court long enough, he's a capable double digit scorer.</div>
    Chandler is still kind of young, and he is a 7 footer, so developing a jumpshot might be something that takes a little while to get the right form and consistency.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Chandler is still kind of young, and he is a 7 footer, so developing a jumpshot might be something that takes a little while to get the right form and consistency.</div>

    Well, he's been in the league for quite a bit of time so you would think that Chicago would have wanted for him to develop a jumper to be more of a threat. Sure he might make <font size=""7"">ONE</font> jumper, but he needs to be consistent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Chandler is still kind of young, and he is a 7 footer, so developing a jumpshot might be something that takes a little while to get the right form and consistency.</div>
    The young excuse can only be used for a while, I mean it's not like he's a soph or anything, he's been in the league for like 5 years man.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, he's been in the league for quite a bit of time so you would think that Chicago would have wanted for him to develop a jumper to be more of a threat. Sure he might make <font size=""7"">ONE</font> jumper, but he needs to be consistent.</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">og15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The young excuse can only be used for a while, I mean it's not like he's a soph or anything, he's been in the league for like 5 years man.</div>
    Well he is 24 (turning 25), if he went to college and completed a program he would probably be in his second or third year in the nba.

    Anyway, I think if he decides that is an aspect that he wants to add to his game, that he could do it. Maybe not lol.
     

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