Stern: NBA testing new ball; leather still an option

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  1. P.A.P.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">PARIS -- David Stern has flown across the Atlantic on an NBA Europe Live tour that will have taken him to five countries by the middle of next week, but the league's commissioner has been unable to escape the raging controversy about the new basketball introduced this season.

    Speaking to reporters in Paris before Sunday's exhibition game between the San Antonio Spurs and Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Stern conceded for the first time that reverting to the old leather ball is a possibility if the rigorous testing he has just ordered validates the widespread complaints about the ball -- particularly its tendency to become slippery when wet.

    "We have sent out the most stringent testing crew to see what there is to the issue," Stern said when asked if returning to leather was under consideration.
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    I think its good that the nba will consider going back to leather if the new ball isn't practical.

    If it is practical or just needs a few changes that can be made before the season starts then why not use it?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think its good that the nba will consider going back to leather if the new ball isn't practical.

    <u>If it is practical or just needs a few changes that can be made before the season starts then why not use it</u>?</div>

    I think some people will object to that because they are used to the leather ball, after spending 5 or more years in the league i think they get used to the old ball, and they dont want to change it. "If it aint broke, dont try to fix it."
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CPaulDWade#3 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">"If it aint broke, dont try to fix it."</div>

    Nice, I like that thinking.

    They should go back to the old ball, because the new one will reduce the FG% & comparing ancient players to recent ones will be harder because there will be another factor which is the ball.
     
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    I think in another thread, someone noted that I think NCAA uses a synthetic ball and maybe some of the European leagues?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice, I like that thinking.

    They should go back to the old ball, because the new one will reduce the FG% & comparing ancient players to recent ones will be harder because there will be another factor which is the ball.</div>

    Some guys like Jamison say that if you penetrate, it will feel the ball will come out your hands.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"Terrible," Jamison said. "Every time you go to make a quick move, it feels like the ball is going to slip out of your hands. I hate it."</div>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Nice, I like that thinking.

    They should go back to the old ball, because the new one will reduce the FG% & comparing ancient players to recent ones will be harder because there will be another factor which is the ball.</div>

    The game has changed so much in other ways, that will hardly make a difference.

    I'm in favor of scrapping the leather balls. I think players will eventually adjust to the new feel of the ball. Besides, there are good, non-basketball reasons for supporting the change.
     
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    ...Cows are gonna get slaughtered anyways...

    <div class="quote_poster">CPaulDWade#3 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> "If it aint broke, dont try to fix it."</div>
    I agree with the guy...[​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think in another thread, someone noted that I think NCAA uses a synthetic ball and maybe some of the European leagues?</div>The NBA is pretty much the only league that doesn't use it now. Most college programs use it. Pretty much every team overseas uses it as well. The NBA is pretty much the only league that doesn't. I think they might as well make the switch. The only reason why we're hearing so many complaints is because everyone in the league had become accustomed to the old leather ball. I think, once they get used it, they'll be ok with it.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">KS1 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">...Cows are gonna get slaughtered anyways...</div>

    NBA says "no" to leather

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    "Leather is not simply a slaughterhouse byproduct," writes animal issues columnist Carla Bennett. "It's a booming industry and an important part of the slaughter trade, since skin accounts for approximately 50 percent of the total byproduct value of cattle." Leather is also made from slaughtered horses, sheep, lambs, goats, and pigs. "When dairy cows' production declines, for example, their skin is made into leather; the hides of their offspring, 'veal' calves, are made into high-priced calfskin," adds Bennett. "Thus, the economic success of the slaughterhouse (and the factory farm) is directly linked to the sale of leather goods."
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    The PETA website details "the threat to human health from the highly elevated levels of lead, cyanide, and formaldehyde in the ground water near tanneries. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the incidence of leukemia among residents in an area surrounding one tannery in Kentucky was five times the national average. People who work in tanneries are dying of cancer caused by exposure to dimethylformamide and other toxic chemicals used to process and dye the leather. The coal tar derivatives used are extremely potent cancer-causing agents. According to a study released by the New York State Department of Health, more than half of all testicular cancer victims work in tanneries."
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    It's an ugly business. In comparison, I think these concerns about the ball getting a little slippery or field goal percentage possibly decreasing are somewhat frivolous.

    It makes sense from a business-perspective for the NBA to make the switch, and I believe it's the more ethical decision as well.
     
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    Having played with both kinds of balls, I'd say the synthetic one is better. When wet, it gets just as slippery as a leather ball, but otherwise it has a much better grip. It usually takes a lot of sweat to get wet anyway, and it usually doesn't happen unless you rub it against a sweatty jersey or something...
     
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    Yea, that article about the leather kind of puts things in perspective.
     
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    cows are getting slaughtered by mcdonalds for their meat all the time, why not make a deal with them?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">cows are getting slaughtered by mcdonalds for their meat all the time, why not make a deal with them?</div>
    Would you eat artificial cow meat on your burgers? Besides, from what I read from Durvasa's article, the tanneries and leather making industry has a bunch of negative effects as well, so its not just the whole killing cows part.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AznxBaller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would you eat artificial cow meat on your burgers? Besides, from what I read from Durvasa's article, the tanneries and leather making industry has a bunch of negative effects as well, so its not just the whole killing cows part.</div>

    Yeah, i was just kidding.
     

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