<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Top point guards 1. Ronald Steele (Alabama): The best point guards are the ones who can get a basket when their team needs a basket but do not necessarily need to get baskets to feed their egos. You follow me? In other words, a great point guard is a guy good enough to be selfish, yet unselfish in every way. That's why Steele (14.3 points and 4.3 assists per game last season) tops this list. He's a 6-foot-3 playmaker who just might lead the Crimson Tide to the Final Four. 2. Dominic James (Marquette): This reigning Big East Freshman of the Year is the main reason Marquette surprised many in returning to the NCAA Tournament last season. He averaged 15.3 points and 5.4 assists, and his 4.5 rebound average displays a toughness not normally found in 5-11 point guards. Bottom line, James is not the second coming of Dwyane Wade, but he was similarly trusted from the day he stepped on campus. That's proof Tom Crean knows elite talent when he sees it, even if it doesn't come out of high school labeled a top 10 national prospect. 3. Taurean Green (Florida): Green was the second-leading scorer (13.3 points per game) for the national champion Gators, though he seems to understand how to defer when the big guys -- specifically Joakim Noah and Al Horford -- can benefit from matchup problems. He had eight assists and one turnover in a showdown with eventual first-round draft pick Jordan Farmar in the title game. That's good enough to get him this high on this list. 4. Sean Singletary (Virginia): Singletary last season became the first Virginia player to be named first-team All-ACC since Bryant Stith in 1992. That's a long time. That's impressive. That's why you shouldn't be surprised when this classic lead guard who can score at a high rate -- he averaged 17.7 points per game as a sophomore and put 35 on Gonzaga -- has the Cavaliers back in the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2001. 5. Jarrius Jackson (Texas Tech): He plays a lot (38.4 minutes), shoots a lot (152 more field goal attempts than any teammate) and scores a lot (20.5 points), too. Whenever Bob Knight breaks Dean Smith's record for career wins, rest assured Jackson will play a big role. 6. Tywon Lawson (North Carolina): Every time you put a freshman on a list like this, people are bound to send e-mails featuring the phrase "but the kid hasn't even played a game yet." Please, save the e-mail. Lawson has played lots of games, thousands of games. That he hasn't yet done so at the college level is inconsequential, and you'll see that once he's running Roy Williams' Tar Heels up and down the court in 30-point victories. 7. Acie Law (Texas A&M): When Law signed with A&M, he couldn't have realistically thought he'd be the starter on a team that would make a run at the Sweet 16. If he did, he was delusional. But now here he is, a possible Big 12 Player of the Year if the Aggies can win a league title, a goal that is reasonably reachable, Kansas' overwhelming talent not withstanding. Funny how things work out, huh? 8. Jamon Gordon (Virginia Tech): Gordon is really a combo guard, but one who is good enough with the ball to play the point, evidence being that his assist-to-turnover ratio was better than 2-to-1 last season. If he's too high on this list, so be it. I've always been a sucker for point guards hard enough to average 6.0 rebounds per game. 9. Bobby Brown (Cal State Fullerton): Brown was wise to return to college after testing the NBA waters. The payoff won't be a Final Four, but he'll probably be the Big West's Player of the Year and become Cal State Fullerton's all-time leading scorer. And that's worth an extra year of school, I think. 10. Jamar Butler (Ohio State): Lost in the signing of Mike Conley is that OSU already has a pretty good point guard in Butler. His assist-to-turnover ratio was 2.5-to-1 last season, and it should improve with every easy ally-oop thrown to Greg Oden. </div> Source This list is repectable I guess....Ronald Steele and Dominic James are 2 of the young premiere PG in college b-ball. I think Green is too high at 3 and that Ace Law is too low too.
Jamar Butler is underrated at #10; I'd put him above Brown, Gordan and Lawson. It's also pretty sad that this guy put Kam Taylor at #11; he's not really even a 1, and he sure as hell isn't one of the best. He's a solid scoring guard, but he's not near the top 10 of any list in the nation.
Acie Law IV being so low really shows what this guy knows about college ball. He should be #1 or #2 without question. I see shades of former Michigan State All-American Charlie Bell in his game. There's just no one in college basketball who brings the ball down the court quicker, and when he's not in the game, you can tell. That's probably the most important measure of how good a point guard is - how his team does with him on the bench. This guy also missed the boat with the freshman. Everyone knows Tywon Lawson will have an immediate impact, and he should probably even be higher on his list, yet he's defending his pick as if it's a unique opinion. I'd like to see how he ranks this freshman class overall. Here's how I see it - 1) Acie Law IV - Texas A&M 2) Ron Steele - Alabama 3) Dominic James - Marquette 4) Sean Singletary - Virginia 5) Tywon Lawson - North Carolina 6) Greg Paulus - Duke 7) A.J. Price - UConn 8) Taurean Green - Florida 9) Mustafa Shakur - Arizona 10) Jarrius Jackson - Texas Tech 11) Aaron Bruce - Baylor 12) Drew Neitzel - Michigan State 13) Derek Raivio - Gonzaga 14) Jamar Butler - Ohio State 15) Brandon Heath - San Diego State 16) Bobby Brown - Cal State Fullerton 17) Aaron Brooks - Oregon 18) Russell Robinson - Kansas 19) Darren Collison - UCLA 20) Justin Cerasoli - Ole Miss
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Here's how I see it - 1) Acie Law IV - Texas A&M 2) Ron Steele - Alabama 3) Dominic James - Marquette 4) Sean Singletary - Virginia 5) Tywon Lawson - North Carolina 6) Greg Paulus - Duke 7) A.J. Price - UConn 8) Taurean Green - Florida 9) Mustafa Shakur - Arizona 10) Jarrius Jackson - Texas Tech 11) Aaron Bruce - Baylor 12) Drew Neitzel - Michigan State 13) Derek Raivio - Gonzaga 14) Jamar Butler - Ohio State 15) Brandon Heath - San Diego State 16) Bobby Brown - Cal State Fullerton 17) Aaron Brooks - Oregon 18) Russell Robinson - Kansas 19) Darren Collison - UCLA 20) Justin Cerasoli - Ole Miss</div> To tell you the truth, I don't think Shakur is going to be a top 10 PG. He has the talent and physical features that favor him, but he just doesn't think sometimes. He makes stupid passes and drives in too far, his shot also sucks. If he can carry over something from the tourney last year, then he maybe a top 10 guy.
<div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">To tell you the truth, I don't think Shakur is going to be a top 10 PG. He has the talent and physical features that favor him, but he just doesn't think sometimes. He makes stupid passes and drives in too far, his shot also sucks. If he can carry over something from the tourney last year, then he maybe a top 10 guy.</div> Don't give up on Shakur so easily. Sure, he's struggled his first three years, but it's mostly all been about his attitude and his mental approach to the game, not his talent. I honestly thought #9 was a little low, because as we both know, Shakur has the talent to be the best point guard in the nation if he can put it all together. He may never be the all-around player that Acie Law IV is, because his jump shot is so ridiculously flawed mechanically, but he has the playmaking ability that no other point guard in the nation has. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in a guy who has a history of letting people down, but it's hard to give up on a headcase like Shakur after what Olsen was able to do with a headcase like Stoudamire.
<div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Don't give up on Shakur so easily. Sure, he's struggled his first three years, but it's mostly all been about his attitude and his mental approach to the game, not his talent. I honestly thought #9 was a little low, because as we both know, Shakur has the talent to be the best point guard in the nation if he can put it all together. He may never be the all-around player that Acie Law IV is, because his jump shot is so ridiculously flawed mechanically, but he has the playmaking ability that no other point guard in the nation has. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in a guy who has a history of letting people down, but it's hard to give up on a headcase like Shakur after what Olsen was able to do with a headcase like Stoudamire.</div> At least Stoudamire could shoot, people will start playing off on him almost challenging him to shoot I think this year. He shot pretty good last year in the tourney, but maybe it was his homecoming that did that. He's just way too inconsistent and drives way too much sometimes. It may be just me, but I think there are other players better than him. His defense is really good though.....
I wouldn't put Paulus over Green, but other than that and Ronald Steele not being at #1 I like your list, Voodoo. I don't think that Green is Top 3 in the nation at PG. Green is a proven scorer and passer. He can take over games, something that I have a hard time seeing Paulus do. Paulus might have better stats this year, because Green plays on the very very very balanced Gators where no one puts up big stats, but I still think Green will have a better season leading his team.
I've got a couple gripes about VC's list, too, but his is probably the best I've seen this year. Does that say more about him doing a great job, or everyone else having their head up their ass?
<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't put Paulus over Green, but other than that and Ronald Steele not being at #1 I like your list, Voodoo. I don't think that Green is Top 3 in the nation at PG. Green is a proven scorer and passer. He can take over games, something that I have a hard time seeing Paulus do. Paulus might have better stats this year, because Green plays on the very very very balanced Gators where no one puts up big stats, but I still think Green will have a better season leading his team.</div> I can see Ron Steele being #1. There's not that big of a gap between him and Law IV. In fact, I'm sure I've even called Steele the best point guard on this board before. As for Paulus though, I think you've got the wrong impression of him. You say that Paulus might have the better stats whereas Green is better at leading his team, but I think it's actually the other way around. Paulus is never someone who takes over games or has a gaudy stat line, but he is always a consistent playmaker who never fails to set up his teammates for open looks. He was thrown right into the fire last year as a freshman, something that most freshmen never have to experience, and I think that when that happens, people tend to be a lot harder on players than if they were to come off the bench for a few years before starting, especially at Duke (similarly to how we're still giving Shakur a hard time when he's actually not that bad of a point; Aaron Brooks too). This season's Duke team will have an entirely new chemistry than last season's, and I think their current roster really plays to Paulus's strengths as a floor general. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I've got a couple gripes about VC's list, too, but his is probably the best I've seen this year. Does that say more about him doing a great job, or everyone else having their head up their ass? </div> Lol, I didn't mean to shift the topic to my list, and I did it off the top of my head, so definitely the latter.
<div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I've got a couple gripes about VC's list, too, but his is probably the best I've seen this year. Does that say more about him doing a great job, or everyone else having their head up their ass? </div> That's considering I haven't put one out right
