It has been reported today that The Utah Jazz are looking for a shooting guard desperatly. Since it is becoming fair more obvious that William "Smush" Parker is not a point guard I think that like a he could possible be a good catch for them. He is kind of in the mold of Devin Brown,but better defensivley, I guess you could even make a minor comparison Bryon Russell's on the ball defense. The addition of Cook is bait in order to get Jaron Collins and also a good way of getting rid of Cook, who is not deserving of a long term contract since we signed Vlad Rad, who does the exact same thing with better handels and better defense. Trading Chris Mhim is a way get under the cap and also helps Utah to feel good about trading a big. Trading Arron McKie comes without explanation. Alot of what I am proposing looks as if I am talking in a benifite for Utah, well considering no one wants to help us in a trade we would have to show them the benifite for them. Of course it is obvious that I made this trade on "Real gm", they don't include the option to add draft picks, for some reason every year Utah seems to get a gang of second rounders, and considering they have a stable of young boys out of this years draft they can afford to let go a second rounder, but my offer would not be contingent on the second round pick. L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown Outgoing Smush Parker 6-3 PG from Fordham 11.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 33.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 7.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.9 minutes Aaron McKie 6-5 SG from Temple 0.5 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 8.6 minutes Chris Mihm 7-0 C from Texas 10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes Incoming Jarron Collins 6-11 C from Stanford 5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.9 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes Change in team outlook: -11.5 ppg, -7.6 rpg, and -0.9 apg. Utah Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jarron Collins 6-11 C from Stanford 5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.9 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes Incoming Smush Parker 6-3 PG from Fordham 11.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 33.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 7.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.9 minutes Aaron McKie 6-5 SG from Temple 0.5 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 8.6 minutes Chris Mihm 7-0 C from Texas 10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +11.5 ppg, +7.6 rpg, and +0.9 apg. Successful Scenario Due to L.A. Lakers and Utah being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and Utah had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining
Um, why would we accept that trade? It would only make our team worse. Brian Cook > Collins. Mihm > Collins. It makes no sense to trade away two solid bigs for a backup center. I like D-Fish, but unless he somehow takes a pay cut, there is no way I want to see him here. He gets paid way too much. I may not be a big Smush fan, but at least Smush gets paid at a very reasonable price, and is still young with room to improve. No offense or anything, but IMO the trade is just nonsense. We are basically giving up all our depth for two backup players. No thanks
I guess since you put that way you could be right, but back up center for healthy backup center sounds like a good deal to me. By the way what does "imo" mean?
Yeh I saw this thread a while ago but I didn't want to post because anything I say in regard to this suggestion will sound rude. Let me break it down: Smush > Fisher and Mihm > Collins, yet we are also losing Brain Cook? It makes no sense at all from the Lakers perspective. "IMO" means In My Opinion.
<div class="quote_poster">KOBISDAD Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I guess since you put that way you could be right, but back up center for healthy backup center sounds like a good deal to me. By the way what does "imo" mean?</div> IMO means "in my opinion." lol. Anyways, like I said, this trade would have us giving up too way much depth. We are better off the way we are now
<div class="quote_poster">KOBISDAD Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It has been reported today that The Utah Jazz are looking for a shooting guard desperatly. Since it is becoming fair more obvious that William "Smush" Parker is not a point guard I think that like a he could possible be a good catch for them. He is kind of in the mold of Devin Brown,but better defensivley, I guess you could even make a minor comparison Bryon Russell's on the ball defense. The addition of Cook is bait in order to get Jaron Collins and also a good way of getting rid of Cook, who is not deserving of a long term contract since we signed Vlad Rad, who does the exact same thing with better handels and better defense. Trading Chris Mhim is a way get under the cap and also helps Utah to feel good about trading a big. Trading Arron McKie comes without explanation. Alot of what I am proposing looks as if I am talking in a benifite for Utah, well considering no one wants to help us in a trade we would have to show them the benifite for them. Of course it is obvious that I made this trade on "Real gm", they don't include the option to add draft picks, for some reason every year Utah seems to get a gang of second rounders, and considering they have a stable of young boys out of this years draft they can afford to let go a second rounder, but my offer would not be contingent on the second round pick. L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown Outgoing Smush Parker 6-3 PG from Fordham 11.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 33.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 7.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.9 minutes Aaron McKie 6-5 SG from Temple 0.5 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 8.6 minutes Chris Mihm 7-0 C from Texas 10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes Incoming Jarron Collins 6-11 C from Stanford 5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.9 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes Change in team outlook: -11.5 ppg, -7.6 rpg, and -0.9 apg. Utah Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jarron Collins 6-11 C from Stanford 5.3 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 1.2 apg in 21.9 minutes Derek Fisher 6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock 13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes Incoming Smush Parker 6-3 PG from Fordham 11.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.7 apg in 33.8 minutes Brian Cook 6-9 PF from Illinois 7.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.9 apg in 18.9 minutes Aaron McKie 6-5 SG from Temple 0.5 ppg, 1.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 8.6 minutes Chris Mihm 7-0 C from Texas 10.2 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.0 apg in 26.2 minutes Change in team outlook: +11.5 ppg, +7.6 rpg, and +0.9 apg. Successful Scenario Due to L.A. Lakers and Utah being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and Utah had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining</div> Are you somehow in any way affiliated with Mitch Kuptchak? He'd think this trade would be a steal for the Lakers. Your bringing in a guy who never combs his hair in Collins and bringing back the fish with that big contract. It makes no sense.
I wouldn't mind adding Collins to the team, but I want no part of Fisher on the Lakers roster. Collins is the type of center who can take up space in the paint and has a nice midrange game on offense. PJax loves using these type of centers in his defensive schemes, because it shortens the court for the opposing offense and allows his team to control the paint.
Believe it or not, I am a die hard Lakers Fan. I may have made a questionable trade proposal. I tell you right now I feel stupid,and I am not a Mitch Kupcheck disciple;still i think with a depleted front line and questionable pg play i thought it was decent offer. Maybe it would be better if they pick up a percentage of Fishe's contract
<div class="quote_poster">KOBISDAD Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Believe it or not, I am a die hard Lakers Fan. I may have made a questionable trade proposal. I tell you right now I feel stupid,and I am not a Mitch Kupcheck disciple;still i think with a depleted front line and questionable pg play i thought it was decent offer. Maybe it would be better if they pick up a percentage of Fishe's contract</div> But still. That's just way too much depth we are trading away. Mihm, Cook, and Smush all mean a lot to our team. Trading them away for Collins and Fisher will make us a very thin team
<div class="quote_poster">KOBISDAD Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Believe it or not, I am a die hard Lakers Fan. I may have made a questionable trade proposal. I tell you right now I feel stupid,and I am not a Mitch Kupcheck disciple;still i think with a depleted front line and questionable pg play i thought it was decent offer. Maybe it would be better if they pick up a percentage of Fishe's contract</div> The problem I have with Fisher's deal isn't the amount, but the length. He's signed for another 4 years at which time he'll be 35 years old. He's already lost two steps on defense, and can't stay in front of his man anymore. Those foot injuries really slowed down his effectiveness. I've been impressed with Farmar's play in the SPL and preseason. He sees the court well, can shoot, and makes great decisions with the basketball. He does have some bad habits on defense, but those can be corrected in the course of a few training camps. I still think Mihm holds value for this Laker team. Bynum isn't ready to play heavy minutes yet, and Mihm is a nice insurance to have when Kwame gets in foul trouble or struggles. Mihm knows the offense, and can give you double digit points every night at the 5 spot. I also like what I'm seeing from Cook. He's going after rebounds and is mixing it up on the inside. In the Kings game he took exception to Artest giving him a bump after the foul and shoved him. Last night he laid out Chris Paul, who was trying to score an uncontested layup. Plus you can't touch Cook's quick release jumpshot, he's automatic. Cook also has great chemistry with Walton and Turiaf. He's a keeper. I'd love it if the Lakers could unload McKie for a big.
without a doubt the worst trade scenario ever thought of, why on earth would anyone do this trade (with the exception of utah fans) it makes no sense.
What do you guys think of Mihm for Collins? I went over that in my head and it doesn't sound too bad. There is no assurance that Mihm will be 100% healthy coming into this season.
<div class="quote_poster">KOBISDAD Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Believe it or not, I am a die hard Lakers Fan. I may have made a questionable trade proposal. I tell you right now I feel stupid,and I am not a Mitch Kupcheck disciple;still i think with a depleted front line and questionable pg play i thought it was decent offer. Maybe it would be better if they pick up a percentage of Fishe's contract</div> Don't take anything I said seriously. The only reason why I am here is to promote Laker pride and don't feel stupid cuz mitch where's a sticky on his head everyday to work. But in all seriousness I apologize for questioning your trade proposal.
I do not like this trade I would rather have Smush, Vujacic and Farmar play point rather than any of the above in a mix with D Fish. I think everything is beginning to settle down as far as team chemistry is concerned so maybe a trade would upset that. LA should keep Smush, Cookie and Mihm.
How about this trade? Outgoing for the Lakers: Brian Cook, Aaron McKie Incoming for the Lakers: Andrei Kirilenko, Mehmet Okur Outgoing for the Jazz: Andrei Kirilenko, Mehmet Okur Incoming for the Jazz: Brian Cook, Aaron McKie This trade is perfect for the Lakers to win a championship and for Jazz to sit out another year. LOL
