I heard that Barack Obama will "definitely consider" running for the Democratic slot in the 2008 election. As a huge Obama supporter, this is great news for me but also a double edged sword. Assuming he does throw his name in the mix, the seemingly two front-runners for the Democrat nomination are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, a woman and an african-american man. As much as I support Obama, what is the likelihood of either of those two types of people getting elected in today's America? I personally don't think they are very high. Thoughts?
Chances probably aren't good, but Obama is just such a tremendous man. I would love to see him run, just so the country would get to see who he is what he's all about. That would really get some positive attention for the party, and would further his career all in all as well.
Pick up the most recent issues of Time and Harper's. Great articles about Obama. He is definitely one of my favorite current politicians. I think the Democrats would win more realistically if Obama was a VP candidate. Hillary comes off as a hateful person, that's why she isn't going to win.
a black president? fyi- one of the biggest reasons why colin powell didn't run was because of all the death threats
<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">a black president? fyi- one of the biggest reasons why colin powell didn't run was because of all the death threats</div> You do realize that that isn't true, right? If you don't know anything, don't say anything.
<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You do realize that that isn't true, right? If you don't know anything, don't say anything.</div> yes i don't anything, please edify the board about the harmonious history of race relations south of the 49th parallel. the powell tidbit is an unfortunate truth and btw- are u that naive to suggest that public, black figures are exempt from racially charged death threats?
No thank you. Obama doesn't have a bone in his body that's willing to stand up and put a certain idea into actuality. Same ol' democrats, same ol' bull.
<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No thank you. Obama doesn't have a bone in his body that's willing to stand up and put a certain idea into actuality. Same ol' democrats, same ol' bull.</div> who does from the ranks of the democrats, republicans or independents?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Obama doesn't have a bone in his body that's willing to stand up and put a certain idea into actuality. Same ol' democrats, same ol' bull.</div> At least their ideas haven't resulted in thousands of innocent deaths (see "Iraqi death toll at 655, 000 and Rising"). There is something to be said for the good old rational thought process. Obama would be an ideal president because he is relatively close to centre, a quality desperatly needed in a government being torn apart by partisan bull.
Anyone read the TIME article that had him as the cover story? Obama is a great man . . I'd like him to run in '08, but that might just be his flaw (his good nature) -- it was stated (from a pro-Obama standpoint) that he has been quite conservative in his time in office -- but that's a good thing, IMO. He's throwing out partisan bias for something better. He might just be the flavor of the month (for many), but he is a great, great politician. As for Mrs. Clinton, she would have my support as well -- it would be an interesting race between the two for the Democrats. I am glad I am not the only one talking about him, that TIME article was a good insight to his life, especially the book excerpt. I am gonna go find his book, from the tidbit in the article, it was already appealing.
<div class="quote_poster">deception Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">who does from the ranks of the democrats, republicans or independents?</div> Seriously, theres not a politician out there that has a legitimate chance at the presidency that would have the gonads to start making things happen immediately. Obama at least has the right mindset to get things started in the right direction, whereas 3/4 of the other candidates do not, and George W. Bush damn well does not. He is a breath of fresh air from your everyday democrats and republicans if anything, and the type of person we need leading our country.
It's good experience for Obama to run in 2008 so he gets an idea of what's involved and can position himself to become the President heading into 2012.
outside of a few speeches I don't know much about Obama.....I'm not big into politicians, so we'll see.
Good thing you're not into politics. Stay as clear from it as possible. They're all the same narcissistic money driven whores.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">It's good experience for Obama to run in 2008 so he gets an idea of what's involved and can position himself to become the President heading into 2012.</div> 2008 is his best chance for a while, if ever. He'll be going up against an incumbent in 2012. the problems after that are obvious
<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">2008 is his best chance for a while, if ever. He'll be going up against an incumbent in 2012. the problems after that are obvious</div> I just don't want to see him blamed for the past 8 years this government has done to the US. There's a lot of issues for the next president and I'm not sure if there's a right choice in any of the decisions. I'd rather him come in with less responsibility, as a VP and gain a better understanding of what it means to be President. Also it gives him 4 years to build a support group around him and strengthen his political network, so when he steps in as President he can actually make a difference.
Yeh I don't mean to turn this into a race thing but if a Black person makes some mistakes, I think they'll be blown up to be big issues. Hence it will make it harder for ethnic people to run for these positions in the future.
<div class="quote_poster">Laker_fan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeh I don't mean to turn this into a race thing but if a Black person makes some mistakes, I think they'll be blown up to be big issues. Hence it will make it harder for ethnic people to run for these positions in the future.</div> mayor nagin?
Looking at the landscape of prospective candidates right now, I would probably vote for Obama before everyone else. <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I just don't want to see him blamed for the past 8 years this government has done to the US. There's a lot of issues for the next president and I'm not sure if there's a right choice in any of the decisions. I'd rather him come in with less responsibility, as a VP and gain a better understanding of what it means to be President. Also it gives him 4 years to build a support group around him and strengthen his political network, so when he steps in as President he can actually make a difference.</div> You make a very good point, Shape. The thing I wonder, though, is this: Do the Dems have a strong enough candidate other than him this year, so he can become Vice President? I don't know. Other than Hillary Clinton or John Edwards, I don't know who else off the top of my head who would be a viable option for Dems. That means Obama might have to run for President right now, ready or not. I'm no political expert though As for the gender/race issues, I think that progress is being made; we've now got three Latino Senators, a few black Senators - and Governors - and there are more than a few women in office, too. Who knows? The prospects aren't good on paper, but it appears that we're becoming incrimentally more progressive as a nation, and it could be the right time to at least give it a shot.
