Where's Mario Elie?

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  1. Doctor Kajita

    Doctor Kajita Active Member

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    Is he still on the staff? I don't see him listed on the roster. I'm sorry if this already has been discussed. I live in the stone age.
     
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    I believe he still is with Warriors in somewhere, but he is no longer an assistant coach. Basically, his chance of being a future headcoach for Warriors was cut short...
     
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    He went "upstairs" to assist Mullin and Higgins. A bit weird that they kept the other assistant coaches but sent Elie back to Mullin. I was under the impression that Elie would be groomed by Nelson ala Avery.
     
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    Well, there was an article earlier about how Elie didn't "buy" into Nellie's system. They probably put Elie at a scouting position while he's contemplating his future and looking for other head coaching jobs.
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Elie is more like Montgomery in terms of defense and offense balance. This means proper inside and outside attack going with your prototypical inside and outside positions. Since we don't have a conventional lineup, any chance of Montgomery/Elie even succeeding on developing these guys was small. Elie, however, does have more of an nba coach's personality and he will confront players. Montgomery, on the other hand, doesn't want to step on any toes, especially if he's new to the NBA and hasn't played in the NBA. He didn't even have CBA or NBDL reknown as a coach. But Monty was very revolutionary for college basketball when taking average big men and surrounding them with smart, slow, perimeter players (except for Josh Childress and Brevin Knight)

    If you think Elie, think Spurs. He is more like how that organization thinks. This means fast guards that can attack inside and outside (Manu and Parker). Inside presence (Duncan and average center where both can alternate between outside and inside). 5 men on the floor can play strong defense so any loss on free throws is not a big problem. Almost all five players on the Spurs are very quick and smart. Because they've picked the right candidates, they've allowed them to play together for several years and they've gotten more chemistry over time.
     
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    Just Curious. Where did you get this assessement of Elie? I have never seen him speak of what his style of coaching would be. I would love to read that article. Or maybe you had a conversation with him. That would be cool.Or are you just assuming what coaching style he would have because he had success with rudy and pop and feel he would follow in their styles? I guess just like Avery Johnson Mimics the man who mentored him in Nellie. Not.
     
  7. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Short answer = summer league play, albeit very dumbed down since nobody really played together and the lineups were not consistent due to trying players out. He's a guy that likes outside and inside attack and tough defense + passing in a motion offense style and occasional isolations where they go to the post or on the outside. That's similar to Montgomery philosophy of play if Montgomery wasn't so bent on playing the guys Mullin picked for him that can't play that style. That's why it failed in addition to some other things that were wrong with Montgomery in the NBA. Even guys like Rick Pittino and the UNLV guys could have made it if it weren't for bad front office support and time to at least get a foundation in place. I swear we fans will be fickle and impatient when it comes to anything, but one thing is force certain. We didn't have players that could play Elie or Montgomery's way. we don't have the defense, the patience, thte dribbling and passing skill, the shooting ability off the screen, or the right players.

    all basketball is is about angles and mismatches. You make plays to get the mismatches and angles and a guy like Elie would do that regardless if a guy was a rookie. If he can play iso, let them break away from halfcourt. If they got a point guard that can actually run the break and push (unlike Fisher) let him play so long as he can shoot and handle the ball without turning it over. We didn't have a roster for those styles.
     
  8. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    You have to drop the emotion from a person that had a bad time here.

    I mean Fisher was popular outside of the warriors for a reason, so was Montgomery. Why were they successful in other teams? I mean we keep getting the wrong guys for what we need and what currently have. It's a weak foundation we have to begin with and Mullin shouldn't have been jacking with things that will cost him years in rebuilding.

    We don't like Fisher or Montgomery but they were valuable for reasons in which no warrior can probably relate to because we hated their style.

    Actually Elie is probably more similar to Eric Musselman perhaps. He'll play x's and o's, but he'll play whatever works with what's out there. Monty is too rigid and forces things on players that cannot adapt to that style.
     

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