Chris Kaman's deal is going to set the bar for the Magic and Darko Milic. Both were drafted in 2003 and they have similar upside. Kaman is obviously further along as a player, but Milic is 3 years younger. Last year's stat comparison: <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'><font color=""Green"">Chris Kaman - 12.0 PPG 9.6 RPG 1.4 BPG in 32.8 minutes<br/>Darko Milic - 7.6 PPG 4.1 RPG 2.1 BPG in 20.9 minutes (with Orlando)</font></div> As a starter Darko was putting up 13.0 PPG 7.0 RPG and 4.0 BPG So if Darko wants a similar deal, is he worth it?
No way, I'd say 25-30 mils max. Even if Darko is younger, I'd still want Kaman. Really depends on how Darko does this year. Keep in mind he's a PF now, since Dwight is a C.
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No way, I'd say 25-30 mils max. Even if Darko is younger, I'd still want Kaman. Really depends on how Darko does this year. Keep in mind he's a PF now, since Dwight is a C.</div> He might play PF, but he's capable of playing center, because he's a legit 7 footer with a post game. The dilemma for Orlando if they don't sign Darko now, he could put up better numbers than Kaman produced last season and demand even more. If Darko isn't worth $10M+ a season, then what can he get you back in trade?
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He might play PF, but he's capable of playing center, because he's a legit 7 footer with a post game. The dilemma for Orlando if they don't sign Darko now, he could put up better numbers than Kaman produced last season and demand even more. If Darko isn't worth $10M+ a season, then what can he get you back in trade?</div> Well Kaman started off slow last season but ended strong, he had some strong scoring games and great rebounding games also. He was on my fantasy team so I remember a lot of games, he had like two 20 reb games also. $10M+ is stretching it I think. What stats do you think he'll produce? He's not as good a rebounder as Kaman, offensively probably better though Kaman is a good post player as well. I think 12pts 7 reb and 2.2 blks is what he can average this season. I think Kaman will average 14-10 and 1.7 blks
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well Kaman started off slow last season but ended strong, he had some strong scoring games and great rebounding games also. He was on my fantasy team so I remember a lot of games, he had like two 20 reb games also. $10M+ is stretching it I think. What stats do you think he'll produce? He's not as good a rebounder as Kaman, offensively probably better though Kaman is a good post player as well. I think 12pts 7 reb and 2.2 blks is what he can average this season. I think Kaman will average 14-10 and 1.7 blks</div> Well then he's going to cost the Magic at least $10M because those are comperative to Kaman's number last season, and Darko is 3 years younger.
<div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i think DM31 is much better than CK35</div>
I think one of the differences is that Chris Kaman has given results over the past 4 seasons. Darko has been really given the opportunity, so to base it on only 30 games is more riskier than Kaman. What I mean to say is Kaman is more proven than Darko at this point. If Darko plays 70+ games and 25-32 mpg then Orlando's GM will have a better glimpse of what Darko will give them.
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think one of the differences is that Chris Kaman has given results over the past 4 seasons. Darko has been really given the opportunity, so to base it on only 30 games is more riskier than Kaman. What I mean to say is Kaman is more proven than Darko at this point. If Darko plays 70+ games and 25-32 mpg then Orlando's GM will have a better glimpse of what Darko will give them.</div> What he said
<div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i think DM31 is much better than CK35</div> No he isn't.
<div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">i think DM31 is much better than CK35</div> not right now mabe 2-3 years from now, he's not even a starter on this team yet. He will be a good player but he's still got a ways to go to be on Kaman's level IMO.
Kaman is way better. Darko just has flashes and potential. I'd rather take polish and consistency over a guy that may never be consistent. Just like Tskitishvilli or Maciej Lampe or Zarko Cabarkapa or the guys that failed to be this unique power forward with a shooting game and some dribbling skills. Plus, supposedly Millicic has an attitude or work ethic problem? Maybe it is not a big deal now, but Millicic probably should be given something smaller until he proves himself. It's a risk the Magic have to weigh. Dwight Howard used to have some perimeter game when he was skinnier. He had some passing skills, and was supposed to be able to handle the ball some, but he may have outgrown that PF game with his size increase and the fact his midrange to perimeter game has never really been all that consistent. He's definitely got more upside than Amare Stoudamire IMO because he's more polished in all-around skill and will play defense. The Magic just need a decent backcourt to help get him involved. Millic would be a decent complimentary player with his all-around skills at PF since he can handle the ball better, pass, shoot better from distance, and also block shots. Darko wouldn't be worth Chris Kaman money IMO at this point because the Magic need to find some FA guys to bolster up the backcourt. Sort of like what the Clippers did to find Mobley and Cassell. I don't think Jameer Nelson/Arroyo and whoever is at SG is going to cut it. It's hard to imagine JJ Reddick being instant impact to start right away. He's probably got to adjust like all the other slow or short guys trying to play a certain position at this level of speed.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Kaman is way better. Darko just has flashes and potential. I'd rather take polish and consistency over a guy that may never be consistent. Just like Tskitishvilli or Maciej Lampe or Zarko Cabarkapa or the guys that failed to be this unique power forward with a shooting game and some dribbling skills. Plus, supposedly Millicic has an attitude or work ethic problem? Maybe it is not a big deal now, but Millicic probably should be given something smaller until he proves himself. It's a risk the Magic have to weigh. Dwight Howard used to have some perimeter game when he was skinnier. He had some passing skills, and was supposed to be able to handle the ball some, but he may have outgrown that PF game with his size increase and the fact his midrange to perimeter game has never really been all that consistent. He's definitely got more upside than Amare Stoudamire IMO because he's more polished in all-around skill and will play defense. The Magic just need a decent backcourt to help get him involved. Millic would be a decent complimentary player with his all-around skills at PF since he can handle the ball better, pass, shoot better from distance, and also block shots. Darko wouldn't be worth Chris Kaman money IMO at this point because the Magic need to find some FA guys to bolster up the backcourt. Sort of like what the Clippers did to find Mobley and Cassell. I don't think Jameer Nelson/Arroyo and whoever is at SG is going to cut it. It's hard to imagine JJ Reddick being instant impact to start right away. He's probably got to adjust like all the other slow or short guys trying to play a certain position at this level of speed.</div> I agree with everything you said except what you said about Jameer not being able to cut it? where did you get that from look what he did when we traded Francis, he led us to a 16-4 record. Jameer is one of the best young poing guards period and IMO he will be a all star within the next 3 years.
Kaman is definitely WAY BETTER than Darko. Kaman puts up good numbers and should put up better numbers this year. Darko isn't even a starter yet so you can't give him $10million in cash a yr. Kaman is worth that because he's proven himself in games and is a better defender than Darko.
The main difference between Kaman and Darko is that 1) Kaman is a legit back to the basket post up C in the league. He's actually one of the better C's at posting up. 2) Kaman is not a PF/C, he's just a C. 3) Darko has not produced as much as Kaman yet, and will need to do more than just what he's done to demand that much.
