D-wade Has A Big Mouth

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  1. samoan-maverick

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dwyane Wade is developing quite a knack for getting back at those who slight him. Dallas? Dirk Nowitzki became the latest victim after Friday?s practice. Wade was asked about the ESPN interview in which Nowitzki seemed to hint Dallas allowed Wade to slice through its defense rather than Wade doing with his own ability.

    Wade said he saw the interview, then remarked, ?We?re having a ring ceremony Tuesday and they?re not, so thanks, Dirk.?</div>

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content...hat_dirk.html?c
     
  2. The Dream

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    lol........arrogant, but hilarious at the same time
     
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    Dirk is going to need some ice for that burn.
     
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    Why did dirk say that? I dont know if he was thinking when he made that comment. no one lets anybody to the basket in the NBA finals..... point blank!
     
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    Dirk is the stupid one here, not wade. What Dirk said doesn't even make sense.
     
  6. samoan-maverick

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    OF course "they let him". This Miami heat team will always and forever (until he's gone) be SHAQ's team. Our first priority is SHAQ. Just like every other team in the NBA. He's gone then they dont get past the efin BULLS.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">samoan-maverick Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">OF course "they let him". This Miami heat team will always and forever (until he's gone) be SHAQ's team. Our first priority is SHAQ.</div>

    Shaq is dominant but clearly Wade is the most dominating player on the team. I understand you're a Mavs fan and you're defending your star players stupid comment, but you have to acknowledge that Dwyane Wade is the player the player you need to shut down in order to have a winning chance. In case you haven't noticed, this isn't the Shaq of old and he has deffered to Wade. For Christ sake, Wade set the record for most FTA in a NBA playoff series. If you let him get into the lane, you're obviously going to pay for it. Whos there to stop him once he's in there. Diop? He has and will make you pay.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Just like every other team in the NBA. He's gone then they dont get past the efin BULLS.</div>

    And if the Heat don't have Wade in the series versus the Bulls but have Shaq, they get swept. If the Mavs don't have Dirk they don't get past the 1st round. Or if they don't have Terry they lose in 4 or 5 to the Spurs. Come on now.
     
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    Big mouth or not, he backs up his talk.

    End of story really.

    Dirk's comment in Wade's eyes took a shot at Wade's game that he isn't capable of doing what he did on his own. Which is quite frankly wrong. So really nothing wrong with what Wade said.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">OF course "they let him". This Miami heat team will always and forever (until he's gone) be SHAQ's team. Our first priority is SHAQ. Just like every other team in the NBA. He's gone then they dont get past the efin BULLS.</div>Well now you know better.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Big mouth or not, he backs up his talk.

    End of story really.

    Dirk's comment in Wade's eyes took a shot at Wade's game that he isn't capable of doing what he did on his own. Which is quite frankly wrong. So really nothing wrong with what Wade said.</div>

    I don't exactly agree. 82games.com did an in-depth analysis of the Finals, and Wade did get quite a bit of "help". Though Dirk's comment wasn't necessary. He should just move on.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't exactly agree. 82games.com did an in-depth analysis of the Finals, and Wade did get quite a bit of "help". Though Dirk's comment wasn't necessary. he should just move on.</div>

    Never given much of a thought about sites like that, stats like that don't really tell the story. Yes Wade gets some weak calls. Trust me as a Piston fan I know all about that more than Dallas fans do. It is annoying but Wade is an amazing talent and gets to the line because of the way he plays and to be honest he can't really be stopped in the NBA game. Very speical player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AllNet Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Never given much of a thought about sites like that, stats like that don't really tell the story. Yes Wade gets some weak calls. Trust me as a Piston fan I know all about that more than Dallas fans do. It is annoying but Wade is an amazing talent and gets to the line because of the way he plays and to be honest he can't really be stopped in the NBA game. Very speical player.</div>

    Well you should give more thought to sites like that (durvasa has made a nice reputation here at JBB by using their stats in discussions), they provided good analysis. Wade is a good player, but things have fallen into place for him as well. The Mavericks let Kobe get 62 points in 3 quarters, so I can sort of understand where Dirk is coming from.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't exactly agree. 82games.com did an in-depth analysis of the Finals, and Wade did get quite a bit of "help". </div>

    Are you referring to this article which looked at the officiating in game 5 in detail?

    I'll quote the conclusion of that article:

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    So when I do this somewhat involved "quantification" of the officiating impact to generate team 'bonus points', it looks like this:

    +5.4 MIA - Salvatore
    +1.9 MIA - DeRosa
    +1.1 DAL - Crawford
    +0.6 DAL - Joint Calls

    Now you can argue certainly that the types of calls an official is involved with in a given game is to some extent a function of what 'turf' on the court they are covering, and undoubtedly even if you had completely correct officials you could still see some odd discrepancies in free throws awarded and 'points generated'.

    At the end though, my scoring of the calls amounts to seeing Miami getting a net bonus of 5-6 points in the game, which some might take as a sign that the refs had a big role in determining the outcome of a contest with a one point final margin. Ah, but of course, if you change one call, the events that had ensued would be different. Perhaps if Harris had been given free throws after being hit on a shot, the Mavs would have wound up losing by more. So we can never be sure, excepting perhaps the very last play of a game, to what extent the calls mattered.

    Did the officiating in game five have more "iffy/bad calls" than is typical? My impression having watched a zillion NBA games is yes, my statistical evidence for believing this, having done this exercise of grading each call in a game precisely once, is non-existent!
    </div>

    Perhaps you are talking about another analysis, but this one is only pertaining to game 5. And the conclusion was that the ref's "bad calls" favored the Heat by about 5-6 points. But does this point to a bias towards the Heat, or perhaps the effects of home court advantage? That's not clear. And are these results, collected from one game, an indication of a general bias towards the Heat? As article says, the statistical evidence for this is "non-existent".


    In my opinion, the help Wade got in the series is no more than the help any slasher has gotten since the NBA rule changes. The difference is Wade was just relentless in the Finals going to the basket and drawing fouls, so he got a ton of calls. I don't think it was a case of favoritism or a different standard for Wade, if that's what you're suggesting. The way he plays just takes advantage of the "no touch" policy the NBA has instituted for perimeter/wing players.
     
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    I saw the interview and i thought nothing of it i thought Dirk was complementing this arrogant asswipe. But unfortunately you dont learn anything at Marquette about recieving a complement. Shaq must of rubbed off on Wade cuz he doesnt think before he speaks now. To say that Dirks comment is stupid is ridiculous cuz he gave Wade all of the praise, the Media twisted it around with the "rather than Wade doing with his own ability." quote and caused Wade to stoop to that level. So if anyones stupid is Flash for falling into the medias hands.
     
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    Well if the media twisted it around, why are you so pissed at Wade? Seems you've identified the culprit already.
     
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    Wade > Dirk...lol
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">samoan-maverick Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I saw the interview and i thought nothing of it i thought Dirk was complementing this arrogant asswipe. But unfortunately you dont learn anything at Marquette about recieving a complement. Shaq must of rubbed off on Wade cuz he doesnt think before he speaks now. To say that Dirks comment is stupid is ridiculous cuz he gave Wade all of the praise, the Media twisted it around with the "rather than Wade doing with his own ability." quote and caused Wade to stoop to that level. So if anyones stupid is Flash for falling into the medias hands.</div>

    Homer much?

    Jesus guy you really have to see the flaw in your logic. You think wade is an asshole because, apparently, as you say, the media twisted around Dirk's words? So, to no fault of his own, Wade retaliated in what he felt was an insult. It was the fault of the media according to you.

    Now you think wade is a dick. Talk about sour...
     
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    Samoan-Maverick is just defending his team and players. I'm sure any opposing fan would take exception to Wade's comments, regardless if the writer was twisting words and quoting him out of context.

    I don't really see where Dirk is coming from though. The Mavs were trying to get the ball out of Wade's hands and he was simply splitting the defenders and getting dribble penetration. Harris was quick enough to stay in front of Wade, but not strong enough to push him out of his comfort zones. Howard was strong enough, but not quick enough, and Griffin was neither strong or quick enough to defend Wade.

    One of the reasons the Mavs went and acquired Anthony Johnson and Greg Buckner was to slow a player like Wade down.

    To comment on the 82game.com breakdown, it misses a lot of variables when a bad call is made.

    1. Momentum shift

    2. Players are either allowed to stay on the court longer or shorter depending on the foul calls

    Losing a key player effects your entire game strategy and limits what you can do. It also effects players and coaches mentally.

    I remember the post game interview with Avery Johnson, he was so dejected after Miami was handed the game by the officials. He was completely dumbfounded about what just took place on an NBA court, where the officials are supposed to be neutral.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">rafy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Homer much?

    Jesus guy you really have to see the flaw in your logic. You think wade is an asshole because, apparently, as you say, the media twisted around Dirk's words? So, to no fault of his own, Wade retaliated in what he felt was an insult. It was the fault of the media according to you.

    Now you think wade is a dick. Talk about sour...</div>

    Samoan-Maverick is 100% right. IF any of you saw the interview you would see that for Wade to think that Dirk's comment was a diss says more about Wade and his insecurity than anything else......it that was a diss it was the most camouflaged diss of all time.
    the "rather than Wade doing with his own ability" part was a complete media creation. seems like Shaq has taught Wade some of his own crybaby skills.
     
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    I think Dirk was talking about the game plan how it focuses on double teaming Shaq and not as much focusing on doubling Dwayne Wade, obviously Wade capitalized on the opportunities though.
     

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