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  1. Tribute to H2O

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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Crawford should've pulled up to the free throw line at least. Why did he jack up a 3?

    Oh well, OT on opening night. Just like last year against the Celtics. Hopefully we get the W this time.</div>

    That's a damned good question! If he had gone all the way to the basket he would have at least drawn a foul if not score outright. The Knicks should pull this one out. Without Gasol Memphis doesnt have a go to guy they can rely on whereas Curry has been dominating their weak frontline all night not to mention Marbury.


    Anyway I cant wait until Isiah Thomas is fired.
     
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    This has been a very sloppy game by both teams, but entertaining none the less.

    Hakim Warrick (21 points, 12 rebounds) is having the game of his career because of all the playing time (38 minutes), but still, is it too much to ask for a free-throw percentage above 30%? He's hurt the team on the line just as much as he's helped them on the boards.

    That foul which they attributed to Quentin Richardson that sent Warrick to the line earlier was on Curry by the way. It was a cheap move by the officials to credit it to Richardson to keep Curry from fouling out.

    And how about Kyle Lowry on the offensive rebound that followed Warrick's missed free-throw? I've got to give a lot of credit to the little guy for that one. He's listed at 6'0" and looks shorter than that, yet he's got five rebounds on the night and just powerfully ripped a board away from David Lee.

    Interestingly enough, it's been the rookies have come up clutch for the Grizzlies in crunch time, whereas the veterans (Miller, Atkins, Stoudamire) have made mistakes.

    I do have to attribute a lot of Miller's off night to Fratello's substitutions though. Miller is a real hot-and-cold player, and Fratello has a knack for taking him out right when he's beginning to heat up.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Tribute to H2O Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's a damned good question! If he had gone all the way to the basket he would have at least drawn a foul if not score outright. The Knicks should pull this one out. Without Gasol Memphis doesnt have a go to guy they can rely on whereas Curry has been dominating their weak frontline all night not to mention Marbury.


    Anyway I cant wait until Isiah Thomas is fired.</div>
    Tribute, what's good?

    Ugh, another OT, this time without Marbury.
     
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    This game has been nice, maybe the Grizz young players can step up until Gasol comes back. The Knicks need to play like they're scared of the Grizz when it counts.

    Lowry what a player he is going to be, looks like a stud so far making big plays.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This game has been nice, maybe the Grizz young players can step up until Gasol comes back. The Knicks need to play like they're scared of the Grizz when it counts.

    Lowry what a player he is going to be, looks like a stud so far making big plays.</div>

    Like I said earlier, this is a sloppy game overall, even though it's entertaining. Simply put, these are just two bad teams who don't know how to pull out a win.

    Sentiments agreed on Lowry though.
     
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    Hey, another OT!
     
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    What happened to Crawford? Three unsuccessful game-winning opportunities.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What happened to Crawford? Three unsuccessful game-winning opportunities.</div>

    He's trying to get on Sportscenter [​IMG]
     
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    See-ya Curry (third Knick to foul out).

    Right now, the Grizzlies are just out-hustling the Knicks, and it's evidenced by all the offensive rebounds they're getting. The Grizzlies may not be the most talented team from top to bottom, but there's not much of a disparity between their starters and their bench players, so they have the benefit of having fresh legs who are able to contribute just as well as the starters in overtime.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Right now, the Grizzlies are just out-hustling the Knicks, and it's evidenced by all the offensive rebounds they're getting. The Grizzlies may not be the most talented team from top to bottom, but there's not much of a disparity between their starters and their bench players, so they have the benefit of having fresh legs who are able to contribute just as well as the starters in overtime.</div>

    This game has been one hell of a season opener, like the announcers said, "What a way to advertise Season Tickets" [​IMG]
     
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    Definitely; this is really a hell of a way to kick off the NBA season, a triple over time game, and it could possibly go into a fourth overtime here with the way the game has been played so far.

    Just a few more thoughts:

    Chucky Atkins is amazingly selfish. He's been calling his own number time in and time out. Coach Fratello can't be drawing those plays up, and I thought it was sweet vindication when he got blocked by Crawford a minute or so ago on that three point attempt. (Edit: And he just lost the ball trying to be a one-man team again, at the most crucial point of the game.)

    How about that behind-the-back alley-oop by David Lee to momentarily tie up the game for the Knicks? That's got to be one of the five or so biggest baskets in his career so far.

    Again, I'm impressed with the Grizzlies' rookies and their clutch play. Rudy Gay has ice water running through his veins. For that matter, where did Lowry's tenacity under the boards come from? I remember him being a decent long ball rebounder at Villanova, but I don't remember him pushing fours and fives out of the way for boards like he's doing tonight.
     
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    I dont get how they could keep on giving the ball to crawford who is chucking every chance he gets. Give to Lee or Nate not a cold-shooter. Im sick of crawford now. His stupid shots are costing the knicks the game. not to mention we cant rebound for our lives. And the horrible officiating isnt helping either side.


    Update: Crawford finally did something. Q hits boths FT's and theyre up by 1 with 8 seconds I think. I MORE DEFENSIVE STAND. LETS GO NYK
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Coach Fratello can't be drawing those plays up, and I thought it was sweet vindication when he got blocked by Crawford a minute or so ago on that three point attempt. (Edit: And he just lost the ball trying to be a one-man team again, at the most crucial point of the game.)</div>Coach Fratello is like the asshole strict father in those teen horror movies. he makes my skin crawl.
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    How about that behind-the-back alley-oop by David Lee to momentarily tie up the game for the Knicks? That's got to be one of the five or so biggest baskets in his career so far.
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    Dave Lee makes a lot of key plays last year. He flew under the radar because well, the Knicks, as you may have heard, weren't a very fundamentally sound or winning team last year.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Again, I'm impressed with the Grizzlies' rookies and their clutch play. Rudy Gay has ice water running through his vains. </div>
    well yeah, he's getting some seriously inflated first-game-ppg stats from this triple (or 4x) OT game [​IMG]
     
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    Can you say 4-22? Crawford can.......

    Your right VC, Rudy Gay has ice water in his vains.

    Is it just me or is it funny to hear the "Vans" song in the background of a game this close?

    Edit: Good game, neither team should hang their heads.....well maybe both should the way this game was

    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Coach Fratello is like the asshole strict father in those teen horror movies. he makes my skin crawl.</div>

    You can say that on JBB?
     
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    Halleujah!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Can you say 4-22? Crawford can.......

    Your right VC, Rudy Gay has ice water in his vains.

    Is it just me or is it funny to hear the "Vans" song in the background of a game this close?

    Edit: Good game, neither team should hang their heads.....well maybe both should the way this game was



    You can say that on JBB?</div>
    i might swear but at least i can spell, it's "Veins" not "vains".
    just kidding.[​IMG]
    JBB bleeps out curse words from what i can tell, with *****'s.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Coach Fratello is like the asshole strict father in those teen horror movies. he makes my skin crawl.

    Dave Lee makes a lot of key plays last year. He flew under the radar because well, the Knicks, as you may have heard, weren't a very fundamentally sound or winning team last year.

    well yeah, he's getting some seriously inflated first-game-ppg stats from this triple (or 4x) OT game [​IMG]</div>

    [​IMG] @ the Fratello comment. My friend actually said to me at the start of tonight's game, "What the hell is that guy's problem? The team looks so pumped up out there starting the season, and he looks like someone kicked him in the nuts."

    I know Lee's had tons of key plays, and I even saw him live a few times as a Gator, but that play was pretty damn smooth, wasn't it? Not only did he tie the game, but he did it on a reverse alley-oop. That's just sick.

    The players' stats are slightly inflated, but the minutes were pretty well distributed for the most part, and the game didn't become ridiculously high scoring. In fact, Phoenix can score this many points in regulation on any given night. Stats or no stats though, the rookies were just clutch and showed a lot of poise out there.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You can say that on JBB?</div>

    It's all about connotation. If he was calling a someone an asshole or saying that he likes it up the asshole, then I'd have to edit it, but since he's talking about Mike Fratello (while not baiting), it's alright.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Halleujah!</div>

    And so begin two eras: the Isiah Thomas coaching era and the tanking for Greg Oden era.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i might swear but at least i can spell, it's "Veins" not "vains".</div>

    Yeah, J_Ray. Learn how to spell, dammit.
     
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    Wow such an impressive game. Too bad I couldn't see it for myself, nba.com highlights just don't cut it. [​IMG]

    David Lee sounds/looked amazing, really impressive with 10 and 13? Atleast that's what it said on NBA.com

    Francis was ice cold, and Q-Rich looked pretty good.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] @ the Fratello comment. My friend actually said to me at the start of tonight's game, "What the hell is that guy's problem? The team looks so pumped up out there starting the season, and he looks like someone kicked him in the nuts."
    </div>the last thing i'll say about M-Frat is he looks like the kind of guy that his wife would cheat on cause he never enjoys sex.
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    I know Lee's had tons of key plays, and I even saw him live a few times as a Gator, but that play was pretty damn smooth, wasn't it? Not only did he tie the game, but he did it on a reverse alley-oop. That's just sick.
    </div>yeah it was cool. he's in the league for his phundamentalz. he's well rounded as a player in all aspects - finish/pass/rebound. he puts the ball on the floor SOMEtimes but thankfully the knicks have other guys who do that - like the entire rest of the team.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    And so begin two eras: the Isiah Thomas coaching era and the tanking for Greg Oden era.</div>Isiah won't tank for anyone who isn't a 6'2" one-on-one guard who has "a toughness about him, kinda like our Bad Boys team". Why draft a big guy when you can trade, I dunno, for Telfair? Then MSG would be just like Ruckers except $50 for a bleacher ticket.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Tribute, what's good?

    Ugh, another OT, this time without Marbury.</div>

    The Knicks won so at the moment life is pretty good. I actually have a paper due tomorrow that I probably should have been working on during the game but it was the first game of the season and a good one at that so I couldnt miss a second of it. I'll probably go do it now or something.

    Anyway this is a decent win for the Knicks. They played pretty well for the most part for about 3 quarters then they fell apart and blew a big lead as soon as the Grizzlies started applying pressure. Against a better team the Knicks would have certainly lost. In fact the only reason why they won now is because of Miller choking and Warrick's God awful free throw shooting. On the other hand a win is a win anyway you slice it. So I am moderately pleased. Curry was aggressive tonight which is a good thing but he was playing against a rather weak frontline so he should have dominated and he did offensively at any rate, his defense was still somewhere between horrible and mediocre. I hope he can do this against teams that are stronger upfront. Crawford was Godawful tonight but that great steal against Atkins made up for some of his extremely poor shooting. Richardson looks poised to return to his old form, Lee is looking really good and Steve Francis is just...I dont know. I seriously doubt the Grizzlies are going to make the playoffs with Gasol out for so long but it will do wonders for the developments of Warrick, Gay and Lowry and should pay dividends next season. The Knicks in my opinion still wont make the playoffs but they should be able to win 30 games or so. Oh yeah I almost forgot, if Frye isnt hitting his jumper he is absolutely useless. Not an especially satisfying win all things considered(big lead blown, Gasol out, Swift not playing) but better than losing.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     

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