What the hell is wrong with the NBA? Player's cant show any emotion on the court after dunks (all Francisco Elson did was scream). Player's can't even give a look of disgust to the official if they got the call wrong. I mean, just a look will get you a T. This year, I expect the technical foul calls to double. They threw out Carmelo Anthony, well he deserved it, but he had a right to contest. Will Rasheed Wallace ever make it through an NBA game? I really hope the players don't give in. I hope they try to set out a statement to the league and contest every call they hate. Mess up the pace of the game. This way the officials can go back to the way they were last season. The NBA can't play clean up the entire season. No emotions = less interesting.
first the clothing, then the acting out after calls. david stern is trying to turn the NBA into a fascist organization
I think he went overboard with this one right here. Emotion is a big part of the NBA. It pumps the team up, shows aggressiveness, and gets the crowd involved also. With the zero-tolerance on fouling is some-what reasonable. Guys like Rasheed Wallace who's all rude and complains to the refs a lot deserves these calls, but guys like Andres Nocioni who politely wanted to know where the call was, didn't really deserve it. But, to sum it up, I'm starting to hate David Stern.
I initially didn't like the rule. But Bill Simmons made a good point recently. The NBA has gotten progressively more whiney. I have no problem with the league putting a muzzle on the likes of Rasheed Wallace. I think players will learn to behave better, and it will work out for the best.
I like the thought of it, but I don't like how much they're implementing it so far. 'Melo makes what, three players to get thrown out already, something like that? And we're not even through the first week of the season. I think they should prevent the whining, but I don't think it should be carried out as strict as it's been. When a player goes overboard, sure, give them a T. But if they're just showing a slight amount of discontent, I don't think that's T-worthy, nor is a look. So, I like this thought, but again, they need to be a little less strict, cause it's going to get to the point where this rule could get completely overused (I think it already has been) because of the fact that they're handing out a T for every little thing.
OK, who saw that LAC v. DEN game? (Very good game by the way.) Cassel was bitching at the official for like 30 seconds (during a time out), when he didn't get a foul call he wanted. The officials were right on the no-call, but why did they let him contest the call? Where are they going to draw the line? Nocioni got a technical foul called on him for doing the same thing, but more politely.
Melo got ejected for nothing. He wasn't throwing his headband at anyone... I hate the new technicals...
I was actually on the boat with getting the players to stop bitchin' and moanin' to the refs but the past 3 days it has gotten way out of hand. Raising the hand in disguist, a simple shreik of frustration, or a simple pushing of Bruce Bowen to the ground, will get you half way out the game. Okay Okay maybe the first one is justified a little.
It needs to be more consistent. I like the concept: the game needs to get rid of the constant whining and complaining. Nobody wants to watch players miss a shot and complain to the ref, while the opposing team runs a fast break at the other end of the court. This type of behaviour was increasing too, as players seemed to try and get the refs on their side early in the game. But, there should be a fine line between whining/complaining and showing emotion. The type of emotion found in complaining should be eliminated, but if you crack down on players showing excitement, it takes the momentum out of a game.
<div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Melo got ejected for nothing. He wasn't throwing his headband at anyone... I hate the new technicals...</div> Ill have to agree that was a BS technical foul. Im just concerned, if the officials will try to take over the games, and think they're hardasses because they have the whistles in their mouth.
I hate it. Fransico Elson dunking, and letting out a roar got him a tech. They called it taunting. He just dunked, swung back and it wasn't his fault that Dampier was standing right under the basket. It's crap! Yes...control the whining...but basketball is an emotional sport. You HAVE to be able to express yourself in some sort of way. David Stern is a D*ck
David Stein is definitely going a little overboard with this, taking away the players' emotion on the court. Emotion or called passion is a huge part of the game. We're, fan, love to see players get emotional. It is what the game is all about. Not just dunk on somebody and run back like nothing happen? wtf, that is BORING? I want to see players posterize someone and raise their eyebrown as if that player just got pawned But then again, I see how David Sterin is going with this, too much complains and whinners the last few seasons. However the point of this new rule is not about taking the rule to the max extreme, but actually it's the inconsistency in some of these calls which the refs made that caused myself wanna cry. I can see why Rasheed Wallace got a 1st T. He got that T because of his reputation. But then again, the T on Nocioni is unjustify. It shouldn't be that hard to spot which players show their emotion or which players complains after a play. Overall, the refs are very inconsistent with their T so far but they're human afterall.
and does anyone have any doubt that the favoritism already granted to super-stars by the refs is going extend DOUBLY for this new "no-whining" stuff? I GAURENTEE that you're going to see rookies thrown out of games all the time while Kobe Bryant, Lebron James and Dwayne Wade will get to whine all they want and still will never ever get T'd or thrown out of games
you dont think Lebron, Kobe, and Wade will get thrown out? So far those ejected were stars or starters of their respective teams... Melo and Sheed were two recent victims. Im sure it will continue with everyone.
yeah but let's fce it, the refs hate Sheed. the loooooooooove Kobe and Lebron and Wade. thats a big reason why the Heat are champs because of how much the refs adore Wade. they would never throw Kobe or Lebron out of a game. thatd be like kicking your favorite son or daughter in the teeth
Well, Stern was at the Bucks/Raptors game last night and they weren't any technicals given. I thought it was a perfectly officiated game, too. The teams were very emotional, with Chris Bosh letting out a Elson-esque yell after some good plays, but nobody got slapped with anything. Just seems to be a matter of consistency. Or maybe Stern needs to be in the building for the refs to do their job properly.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Stern was at the Bucks/Raptors game last night and they weren't any technicals given. I thought it was a perfectly officiated game, too. The teams were very emotional, with Chris Bosh letting out a Elson-esque yell after some good plays, but nobody got slapped with anything. Just seems to be a matter of consistency. Or maybe Stern needs to be in the building for the refs to do their job properly.</div> Are you forgetting the hard push from Patterson to Ford? But, overall very nice game.
