I saw this game at a friend's house. Good stuff! Murphy was doing a good job working the post D. Ike and Biedrins were pretty good as hustle role players. Baron Davis was perfect from the line (amazing!) with 9:0 turnover assist ratio. Dunleavy was a respectable shooter Pietrus was a double double with three steals, 3/4 from downtown, 6 of 9 overall. Excellent role playing. Jrich handed out 5 assists. The free throw shooting wasn't good, but the overall shooting and fastbreak points and points in the paint was excellent. Pietrus, Biedrins, Ike, and Ellis really helped on the offensive glass. %'s wise we did very well. But like Carter said, it's only the Blazers, who are also in rebuilding mode. Would have been nice if we could beat an 8th seeded playoff team.
Fair performances by all, and at least we beat who we were supposed to be able to beat. Nothing worse than when the Warriors tank against a team that's even less experienced than them.
Couldn't watch the game because I was at work but did catch about 10 minutes of it on my break. If anyone gets a link to a video of the game then please share it in the Warrior Lounge. From looking at the box score, I'm impressed with Pietrus. I feel like an idiot even mentioning this but if he can keep it up then Don Nelson just may have a new Josh Howard-esque swingman. 16 pts, 10 rebs, 3 stls, on 6-9 shooting, 3-4 from beyond the arc.
One of you guys mentioned the tandom of Ike and Biendrins on the other thread and I'm starting to like that combo at the 4 and 5. They provide great d and weakside help for others. Biendrins is started too click on the offense because Baron is telling him what to do while on the court. Hopefully we win tomorrow night and put up a good fight against Dallas on monday
<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Couldn't watch the game because I was at work but did catch about 10 minutes of it on my break. If anyone gets a link to a video of the game then please share it in the Warrior Lounge. From looking at the box score, I'm impressed with Pietrus. I feel like an idiot even mentioning this but if he can keep it up then Don Nelson just may have a new Josh Howard-esque swingman. 16 pts, 10 rebs, 3 stls, on 6-9 shooting, 3-4 from beyond the arc.</div> Woah, deja vu, Run. Didn't we mention Pietrus and Howard in the same sentence a few months ago? Pietrus can crash the offensive boards, D it up, score up close like Howard, but there was some kind of debate on what Pietrus' actual upside was. I think I said high energy Ricky Davis once because of that '03 year where he put up a point per minute. What did we all say again? I'm glad Pietrus did well today, because at one point he was as bad as Dunleavy was and couldn't help but get irked by him whenever he had the ball in his hands.
Yeah, I want to see our streaky guys like Pietrus and Dun and well, just about everyone on the team do well consistently before I get too excited, and be able to do it on the road. The good thing is that Nellie is less likely compared to Monty to leave someone out there who is performing poorly. He'll find someone on the bench who can get the job done so one or two players having a bad shooting night won't necessarily screw the team.
<div class="quote_poster">iLL PiLL Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">One of you guys mentioned the tandom of Ike and Biendrins on the other thread and I'm starting to like that combo at the 4 and 5. They provide great d and weakside help for others. Biendrins is started too click on the offense because Baron is telling him what to do while on the court. Hopefully we win tomorrow night and put up a good fight against Dallas on monday</div> I was one, I forget who the others were. Murphy did some good things today, but I think it's pretty clear that Dunleavy/Murphy tandem is not too favorable defensively or to get scoring inside the painted area. At least make it Ike and Murphy, Biedrins and Murphy, or Dunleavy and Biedrins or Dunleavy and Ike. Maybe we should go back to playing a normal lineup or just bench Dunleavy. If we play Murphy + Dunleavy any longer at bigger positions, we'll get slaughtered inside against the Scallabrinis, Waltons, and Turiafs of the NBA. Murphy at C could hang some if we're not really playing defense at all, but I like Biedrins/Ike combo because it brings more balance to the offense. We don't have to work the perimeter so much to get things going when we can't run in the fastbreak. We dump it inside and bam it's all over if they get good positioning. That's high % points versus whatever Murph + Dun combine for on most nights + the bad defense. The crux of it is Ike and Biedrins = foul prone.
I was at the game... Murphy did good things? He looked terrible. Honestly I hope they can move him somehow. He was consistently out of position and made the wrong reads when the ball was in his hands almost every time. Ike, Beans, and Ellis were solid, everyone else was marginal at best. I have to say that Baron and Murph just looked out of place (and you know how much I love watchin Baron). Dunleavy had moments of competence, but mostly looked terrible. After watching this game against a terrible Blazer team and the Laker game, I will be surprised to see this team reach 30 wins (if no major moves are made). Everything is forced and the talent is just not there.
<div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I was at the game... Murphy did good things? </div> No, not really. I was just trying to be positive and see who actually got my brand of sarcasm. When I meant good things he took some blows to the face again from Randolph. It was awesome. He got him in foul trouble, got him out of sync and he was Portland's biggest offensive threat inside. <div class="quote_poster">CohanHater Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> He looked terrible. Honestly I hope they can move him somehow. He was consistently out of position and made the wrong reads when the ball was in his hands almost every time. Ike, Beans, and Ellis were solid, everyone else was marginal at best. I have to say that Baron and Murph just looked out of place (and you know how much I love watchin Baron). Dunleavy had moments of competence, but mostly looked terrible. After watching this game against a terrible Blazer team and the Laker game, I will be surprised to see this team reach 30 wins (if no major moves are made). Everything is forced and the talent is just not there.</div> I agree man. We need different brands of players to balance out our game. I don't care if it's Nick Collison or landing Brendon Haywood the Dampier of the East. We kind of need a center or a really damn good power forward in place of a center. Murphy + Dunleavy doesn't really give a whole lot of confidence offensively and defensively in any offensive set. In fact, the whole reason we are running is because center and power forward can't do much inside. If we could we'd be having no problems in the halfcourt and making defensive stops at the rim so we can push the ball in the first place. If we get a decent inside guy that can at least run straight ahead like Murphy's foot speed, we should be able to score on the break. But defense, inside scoring can be a problem if one of the power forwards or centers doesn't do any of that type of role. That's why I like Murphy + Diogu or Diogu + Biedrins. Even Biedrins showed flashes of what he can do when he's point blank range of the basket. But his issues are foul trouble and really piss poor free throw shooting. 30% career average? Man... I think Baron can shoot his 3-pointers from 36 feet out and still get better than Biedrins at the foul line.
Randolph shot 50% from 9 of 18 shooting, 11 rebounds, 4 of 4 from the foul line. That is not bad defense on him considering Randolph could have really tested the Warriors inside. I mean the guy is a pretty dominant post threat, but like our own Murphy, he is really slow and weak defensively. So maybe he allowed points, especially against the transition game? But the Blazers had some decent center talent. Wonder what happened to them? (23 to 15 turnovers and probably tons of points off turnovers capitalized by us) It didn't give their centers any chance to be effective if they couldn't get back. We matched up with rebounding, sucked at the line, but we scored high % points thanks to being able to run out on those turnovers. Pietrus and Ellis are pretty darn good ball thieves. The former one-time league leading steals leader, Baron Davis, also did well. I also loved watching Brandon Roy. The guy looks awesome even though he struggled from the perimeter. The guy has just so many good moves. He's like shooting guard version of Ike when it comes to knowing all the basketball moves.
I think Murphy played good tonight-overall-better than much of the past. Pietrus got the opportunity to shine--and did-they had no answer. Magliore sure was a big nothin' but Roy is the real deal. Dunleavy is showcasing his limitations. Both Ike and Biedrens-again-showed they can do more for us than Dun has done.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Murphy is trying to find the right mask to protect his nose as it heals. The clear plastic one he wore Wednesday and again Friday has been slipping around some on his face and also affects his peripheral vision. He received several new versions to try Friday but wants to wear them in practice first to see how they work. And once his nose is healthy again later this month or in early December, Murphy said he will "smash them, put them under my car and run over them, or maybe a hook shot off the Bay Bridge on my way home."</div> I got this from the Yahoo recap lol.
<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The score is 86-76. 4th quarter. If we win it won't be big. This is just the Trail Blazers.</div>Every win is big in the NBA, especially for the Warriors.
Last night win was a nice start considering what everyone would we saying if we would have lost last night. during the first half i felt that the Warriors were being set up for a horrible third quarter, which turn to be bad for Portland. I know that it wasn't a perfect win but, I love the fact that everybody was hustling and giving a good effort. Maybe the team can build from this win tonight. I know that there were some positives and not just negatives for every player last night.
Pietrus was the man in the first half. In the second half the rest of the team decided to play too. During half time, I think they got jealous of how much fun Pietrus was having, and something clicked to make the other players want to play too. Tonight against Utah, everyone needs to decide to play like Pietrus did in the first half. They can't come out flat. It has to be good basketball for 48 minutes to beat the Jazz.
Pietrus is averaging 9.5 rebounds per game. He must know that this is his contract year. BTW, is Pietrus just destined to be a bench player? He looked much more comfortable as 6th man. Tonight's game is the real test for this club, and if we ever hope to make PO, this is the type of the game we should win...
