Biggest Problem: Turnovers

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  1. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    Right now, our biggest problem is turnovers. It is a big reason we lost to Philly two nights ago and is a big reason we are trailing to the Hawks right now. We are ranked dead last in turnovers per game at 23 per game. Our takeaway to turnover ratio is 15:23 which is the largest differential in the NBA. Now, it's still early in the season and our guys are probably still rusty/gaining chemistry but we really need to improve this or it's going to haunt us.

    Also, could the new ball have something to do with this sudden increase in turnovers? Maybe our guys are still adjusting to the new basketball that the NBA has implemented for this season. A lot of players have complained about it and have said it will increase turnovers. It is said to get slippery and the grip is different. Another complaint has been that the ball bounces differently and it is noticably different when trying to throw a bounce pass. Could the new ball be increasing our turnovers?
     
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    no biggest problem=pat garrity

    i still support this statement
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">no biggest problem=pat garrity</div>

    Pat Garrity has 1 turnover, so I don't think he's the biggest problem turnover wise.
     
  4. CLos

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    Pat Garrity is a problem on the roster, not turnover wise. Turkoglu I think is our biggest prob. turnover wise.
     
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    No, Jameer Nelson is your biggest problem turnover wise, he's averaging 4.8 TPG, and it seems like every game all I see is turnovers from him. Also this is to only 2.8 APG, he should be embarassed as a PG with those kind of numbers. Next is Dwight with his 4.3 TPG. Turkoglu is definately not the main culprit in this area. He had two bad turnover games to start the year, but still better than Dwight and Jameer, and compared to Nelson he's averaging equal PPG and slightly more APG, yet turning it over 2.3 times less a game.
     
  6. bbwSwish

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    Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with Jameer this year. I don't know if he's nervous now that he's starting or if he feels pressure now that he is the team's leader but whatever it is, he needs to pick his game up. He has been making careless mistakes and Arroyo has played nearly perfect in his last two games. Unless Jameer wants to watch from the bench like he did last season with Francis, he needs to start performing on the level he was at the end of last year.

    Dwight has been a big problem turnover wise as well, like og15 mentioned. He seems to drop passes a lot more than last year and when someone drives and dumps the ball off to him, it seems like he isn't ready and always fumbles it. Someone needs to play catch with this kid or something because it has become a reoccurring thing to see Dwight drop perfect passes. While we are talking about how Dwight needs to improve, he HAS to work on free throws. He is a force and he's going to get to the line a lot as long as he is in this league. If he can't knock down a simple free throw then we are going to have a problem. I'd like to see him raise his free throw percentage since it's only at 65% right now. Also, I really want to see is that offensive intensity we saw against the Bulls. He had like 6 or 7 dunks that game and was showing his offensive moves in the post. Since then, he's only attempted 6.6 shots per game and that has to increase. Other than that, he has looked good. His defense and rebounding has looked excellent
     
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    I think Jameer isn't looking to score as much early because he has so many options. This is hurting the team and his play IMO because guys will be more open when the opposing defense is covering Jameer tighter, and they'll cover him tighter if he starts out by scoring. He's an excellent passer, but no one is any good if no one is open. I think if Jameer starts scoring early that will get him better assist numbers, and once he has a really good game hell be in a roll. I dono if you guys remember but during all three of his years in the league Jameer has started slow, I'm not worried.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheGreatK-Bob Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Jameer isn't looking to score as much early because he has so many options. This is hurting the team and his play IMO because guys will be more open when the opposing defense is covering Jameer tighter, and they'll cover him tighter if he starts out by scoring. He's an excellent passer, but no one is any good if no one is open. I think if Jameer starts scoring early that will get him better assist numbers, and once he has a really good game hell be in a roll. I dono if you guys remember but during all three of his years in the league Jameer has started slow, I'm not worried.</div>

    Right on the money. I said that in another thread before reading this one. Very good point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">CLos Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Pat Garrity is a problem on the roster, not turnover wise. Turkoglu I think is our biggest prob. turnover wise.</div>

    i would seriously give him a contract, to stay away, as far as possible, from the TD Waterhouse Centre
     
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    27 turnovers tonight, but still won.
     
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    Well turnovers killed us again tonight. Watching the game there wasnt a lot of bad passes, more than anything when they go to the basket they are not getting calls or flopping and just letting the other team take the ball away. Dwight's biggest problem is double teams and offensive fouls.
     
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    Like Chuck said, Dwight has just started to get double teamed right off the bat from teams because they saw what he could do. Jameer is kind of inexcusable but hopefully this'll get better as the season goes on.

    Anyway, I blame the new ball.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Franchise4Ever Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Like Chuck said, Dwight has just started to get double teamed right off the bat from teams because they saw what he could do. Jameer is kind of inexcusable but hopefully this'll get better as the season goes on.

    Anyway, I blame the new ball.</div>

    Chuck? I believe it was smoke rocks who said that [​IMG] I don't smoke rocks, how could you make that mistake?!

    What I said in the other thread about Dwight: he has been catching passes way too far out-- recently I saw Jameer pass it to Dwight on a fast break at the FREE THROW LINE and ruined a great fast break. When he catches them too far out, that is, if he catches them, then he likely will put the ball on the floor. This results in offensive fouls, and I've even seen him get called for traveling. I'd say nerves has a lot to do with it. Remember these guys are very young.
     

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