Well, that sucked. But, considering it was a 4th game in five nights without Pietrus and Diogu, it was a very good effort. It would have been nicer if we could have scored in late 4th quarter though...
Their offensive rebounding really did us in it seems. Damn... Also, I don't know what the deal with Ellis and entry feeds is. It seems like he can't make a solid entry pass feeding into the post. Maybe some of it was partly Jrich's fault though. The Biedrins foul wasn't too timely either.
So anyone hear about this Greg Oden kid out of Indiana? I heard he's this year's lotto's Andrew Bogut.
Well, they are young guys, and they will make mistakes after mistakes, and that may have cost the game. But, without them, we wouldn't be in a position to win the game, so I will take it as a learning experience. After all, we weren't supposely win this game today, but we managed to make this game close. Biedrins is growing day by day, and he got 6 blocks today. And, another impressive game from Ellis as well. Both Roberson and Barnes showed why they deserve to get contracts this year...
<div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Murphy grabs 0 rebounds... whats the point of playing him? We got slaughtered on the boards.</div> No one rebounded well tonight except Diogu. Murphy is rebounding poorly this year but hes taking fewer shots and passing more. So far he has 3 games with 4 assists and hes shooting 50% from the field. Hes making open shots and his defense hasn't been too bad. He needs to pick up the rebounding but hes at least been playing efficiently so far this season. Can't blame this game on anyone, they were just tired and couldn't hold off the Hornets. If Diogu and/or Pietrus were playing it would have been a different story but we just flat out couldn't win this game with a short bench and a tired team.
That's true about fatigue. It probably had more to do with the fact we were short handed two key bench guys and Dunleavy just plain wasn't very good yet again. If we were fatigued on a little back-to-back, then we will have problems running the entire season for the remainder of the 75 or so games left in the season. Especially on the long road games where things may feel like a back-to-back game. There's probably three things we can count on in life: death, taxes, and Dunleavy missing the wide open jumper.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So anyone hear about this Greg Oden kid out of Indiana? I heard he's this year's lotto's Andrew Bogut. </div> Exactly what we need other than good free throw shooting.
<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Exactly what we need other than good free throw shooting.</div> Actually, I was kind of half joking. If we picked such a player we have to figure out what we do with Biedrins and the recently drafted POB. Plus, we have to figure out if Greg Oden is even the type of player to bet a franchise on. If he's not really nba ready, we still have to wait longer before we get good. He's a terrific body with some good big man skill, but he's been playing a bunch of smaller, weaker kids. There's no way to tell if he's going to be the next big star after Yao/Shaq at center. Maybe an nba ready high upside small forward will do us some good. I'm starting not to like any of the safe bets, unless they're the Brandon Roy kind. Decently quick, not overly athletic, but good enough to start in the NBA. Has great all-around skills and veteran moves for the position he plays (shooting guard). I think we got one of those guys in Ike Diogu, but we could use some at shooting guard and maybe move Jrich up a spot. But we also need a true post threat that's somewhat ready. If there's a guy that's Bogut level I'd take him #1 overall. A guy who can block shots, rebound, pass, put the ball on the floor some, post up and shoot some is a good thing for center. For point guard, I just want a Sam Cassell/Kirk Hinrich type... Doesn't have to be a pure guard, but must shoot, dribble, pass, think like a distributor when the shot ain't there etc... but do some things in the clutch. Ideally, I like the aggressive types like Nash, Paul, and Bibby... but that may change the way the game is played because they prefer to run rather than slow it down.
<div class="quote_poster">custodianrules2 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">For point guard, I just want a Sam Cassell/Kirk Hinrich type... Doesn't have to be a pure guard, but must shoot, dribble, pass, think like a distributor when the shot ain't there etc... but do some things in the clutch. Ideally, I like the aggressive types like Nash, Paul, and Bibby... but that may change the way the game is played because they prefer to run rather than slow it down.</div> Luke Ridnour? I think he would be good for this system. He is great at controlling the pace of the game I think, for a young PG. However his defense is terrible and he is in the last year of his contract...(sorry I just found out that he apparently got an extention recently, so maybe he isn't in his last year of his contract). Murphy's lack of rebounding is terrible. I wish I could watch the games to see what's going on. You don't win games giving up 21 offensive rebounds.
I saw the game and Murph was almost invisible out there for me, Clif. I can't believe he really played 20 minutes. Dun continues to lead the league in looking like a gay (not that there's anything wrong with that!), stoned jazzercise addict from the 80s. Once again Charmin Boy proved he's mediocre at best. He had a steal and a good outlet pass to Ellis, and a one-handed hopping putback. I think I might have seen a block as well, but other than that, he was useless. Best part of the night: I actually saw Andris sink back-to-back freethrows, and neither touched the rim. I'm not sure if I've ever seen that. He didn't even look awkward shooting them. Some positives and negatives tonight, but all around a pretty good effort on the road. This New Orleans team comes into Oakland in a few days, that should give us a good test of how much fatigue and home-court advantage figured into things. Unfortunately if we can't make adjustments to keep them off the offensive glass we're probably screwed.
<div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I saw the game and Murph was almost invisible out there for me, Clif. I can't believe he really played 20 minutes. Dun continues to lead the league in looking like a gay (not that there's anything wrong with that!), stoned jazzercise addict from the 80s. Once again Charmin Boy proved he's mediocre at best. He had a steal and a good outlet pass to Ellis, and a one-handed hopping putback. I think I might have seen a block as well, but other than that, he was useless. Best part of the night: I actually saw Andris sink back-to-back freethrows, and neither touched the rim. I'm not sure if I've ever seen that. He didn't even look awkward shooting them. Some positives and negatives tonight, but all around a pretty good effort on the road. This New Orleans team comes into Oakland in a few days, that should give us a good test of how much fatigue and home-court advantage figured into things. Unfortunately if we can't make adjustments to keep them off the offensive glass we're probably screwed.</div> I'm assuming you saw the game on TV, and you weren't in OK city. I liked the effort tonight from the team. Monta definitely has improved his jumper, but as we saw with the last possession is still learning the PG position. Odd that Nellie didn't have Diddy and J-Rich isolated on the same side for a quick post or kick out for a jumper. Oh well. Monta is looking better and better each night, and Andris just seems to be everywhere whenever he's on the court. I really like how Andris is keeping himself in the game, it seems like refs aren't calling handcheck fouls on him anymore. With the increased playing time, Andris is really looking good. Thursday, should be another great game, and I'm hoping the W's can come out and really set the tempo and control the glass. Rebounds and turnovers definitely cost the W's. Nelson is probably going to work on ball control during practices, they've had way too many turnovers the past two games. Any word on Pietrus and Diogu's ankles?
<div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Luke Ridnour? I think he would be good for this system. He is great at controlling the pace of the game I think, for a young PG. However his defense is terrible and he is in the last year of his contract...(sorry I just found out that he apparently got an extention recently, so maybe he isn't in his last year of his contract). </div> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/spor...1_sonics31.html 3 year deal. Actually, Clif, I would have liked Luke Ridnour in 2003. I thought maybe he was the guy Musselman really wanted over Pietrus. I liked him because I thought he could shoot decently, he's quick enough, he's smart pretty well polished player, and he's a pure point guard. Haven't had one of those in a long time. He's tall and quick enough, but doesn't seem that strong physically. Plus, is it me or does he seem inconsistent? I never know what kind of game he will have. Not as much upside as Pietrus, but more polish and team skills. On the downside, there were those worrisome comparrisons to John Stockton. You know what that means when scouts are nowadays are comparing somebody that's American-born and White to a hall of famer. <div class="quote_poster">Clif25 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Murphy's lack of rebounding is terrible. I wish I could watch the games to see what's going on. You don't win games giving up 21 offensive rebounds.</div> I didn't see exactly what that problem was last night with Murphy but I saw the rookie turnovers and rookie fouls. The thing with Murphy was maybe that it was Murphy trying to leak out on the break after the defensive rebounding opportunity by one of his other teammates? Maybe he should have stayed home and rebounded? It's kind of disheartening to see some of the other team's big guy or small forward get a season high in something (Dez, Chandler, West, and Stojakavic aren't exactly scrubs, though). Plus, it seems like the game is already decided when the ball is in Jrich or Baron's hands and they make some post up fade away shot moving away from contact and they have such a low % chance of making it.
Actually, forget what I said about Murphy. I can't explain it. Maybe he didn't want to join the others on the injury list if he got too hard-nosed for the ball again or... Chandler and West simply owned him.
Warriors were rolling in the 4th quarter last night... and then Nellie inserts Murphy and JRich with a little under 2 minutes to go. ? Both guys were slow, out of it, not in the game, they had been sitting for over 12 minutes, and seemed mentally unprepared to enter. You had Roberson and Biedrins who were both juiced, hustling and making plays. I love Nellie's coaching in general but as soon as JRich and Murph stepped on the floor, I thought to myself "there goes the victory." Troy had no rebounds and dude is looking like Dunleavy lately. JRich looks like a tired old Michael Finley. No bounce in his step and no playmaking. He seems like the only guy still stuck in Montgomery Ball. I love the guy but he's been a black hole lately. Barnes, Ellis, Roberson, Beans, and Baron were the guys who made this a game for GS. They should have been the ones closing it out.
Biedrins is becoming quite a force. 6 blocks and he didn't foul out. He's been doing a great job of staying out of foul trouble and he's making a ridiculous 81% FG.
