Has Yao surpassed Shaq?

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  1. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    ^^^well he ended up getting a quadruple double eventually, so that might have helped him ease the pain a tad bit.
     
  2. bbwSwish

    bbwSwish Harder. Better. Faster. Stronger.

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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^^^well he ended up getting a quadruple double eventually, so that might have helped him ease the pain a tad bit.</div>

    True. Man, he was such a beast.
     
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    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">29 points, 18 rebounds, 9 assists, 11 blocks

    ^^^Hakeem</div>

    Hakeem also had 5 steals in that game. [​IMG]
     
  5. bbwtrench

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    Yao certainly was sent back down to earth against the spurs. Shooting 7-21 with only 6 boards, and 20 points. Looks like he is still human after all. Timmy had his way with him with that nice double double.
     
  6. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Why are you expecting him to score 30 and 12 every night?
    <div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">a bit off topic, but I think Bynum will surpass both in his PRIME!!!! As long as he continues to have the right attitude, at just 19, he will grow leaps and bounds! Watch out Yao MING!!!!</div>
    Also, stop overrating Andrew Bynum. I know Yao won't have as good of a prime as Shaq, and so won't Bynum. I know he is only 19 and has a lot of years left in him, but you're talking his prime vs. Shaq's. Shaq was one of the best centers ever in his prime. When he was young, he led Magics to finals and in his prime, he led Lakers to 3 championship. The guy was MVP, wnet to the allstar game, he did basically everything you can name. And you think Bynum can accomplish all that? Dont overrate him that much. I agree he is gonna be a heck of a player but he wont be better than Shaq in his prime.
     
  7. Chutney

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    ^ I couldn't find a single argument in there for why Bynum couldn't reach that level. I don't agree either, but just repeating what Shaq has done doesn't prove anything.
     
  8. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^ I couldn't find a single argument in there for why Bynum couldn't reach that level. I don't agree either, but just repeating what Shaq has done doesn't prove anything.</div>

    Repeating what Shaq does prove a lot of things. It shows how many things he has accomplished from All NBA Teams to MVP's to Championship. Also the reason I didnt put a single argument in there for Bynum was because I am not a fortune teller. I dont know how good Bynum will be. Bynum maybe better than both Yao and Shaq in their primes, BUT I think it is very unlikely seeing how much Shaq had accomplishmed in his prime. Bynum, imo wont reach that level because I just dont see the guy accomplishing as many things as Shaq did in his prime. It will be almost impossible to believe that Bynum will be better than Shaq in his prime. Even as being a Yao Ming fan, I agreed that Yao will not be as good as Shaq in his prime. Shaq was one of the best centers in his prime. Bynum and one of the greatest centers in their primes just dont seem to fit together.
     
  9. hustler

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    <div class="quote_poster">Umair15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why are you expecting him to score 30 and 12 every night?

    Also, stop overrating Andrew Bynum. I know Yao won't have as good of a prime as Shaq, and so won't Bynum. I know he is only 19 and has a lot of years left in him, but you're talking his prime vs. Shaq's. Shaq was one of the best centers ever in his prime. When he was young, he led Magics to finals and in his prime, he led Lakers to 3 championship. The guy was MVP, wnet to the allstar game, he did basically everything you can name. And you think Bynum can accomplish all that? Dont overrate him that much. I agree he is gonna be a heck of a player but he wont be better than Shaq in his prime.</div>
    I think Trench was just joking about that Bynum comment..But if you think about it, why not? He's still young.
     
  10. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    He's young, but Shaq? Do you know how great Shaq was in his prime?
     
  11. NTC

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    Yes, we all know, but what Chutney is saying, it that you arent providing us with any reasonable explanation as to why Andrew Bynum supposidly can't be better than Shaq in his prime. Unless you can see into the future, you know about as much us we do, nothing.
     
  12. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Basically, I think he can't be better than Shaq in his prime because I just dont see the guy getting as many accomplishments as Shaq did in his prime. That is just my opinion. I just dont think he will be one of the best centers in their primes. Shaq was one of the best centers in his primes. He did everything in his prime. I just dont think Bynum is capable of doing that. No reasons, but this is an opinion thing. I know no one can predict the future, but you can assume and predict somethings. I am predicting that Bynum wont be better than Shaq in his prime.

    I am not gonna come outta nowhere and say that Milt Palacio has a potential to be better than Allen Iverson in his prime. It just doesnt make sense. Its like just picking a random person and saying he will be better than a superstar in their prime. And when someone disagrees with that, you come out and say that give a reasonable explanation to why you think Milt Palacio can't be as good as AI in his prime. I mean you can tell and predict. Shaq was one of the "BEST CENTER" in his prime, and I just cant see Bynum being recognized as one of the best centers in their prime. Thats all.
     
  13. NTC

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    Well I dont think he will be anywhere near as great as Shaq was in his prime either, but the kid only just turned 19, he's still very young, very raw, he has a long road ahead of him, to say he cant be better than Shaq in his prime is just stupid.
     
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    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    I know, I also said he may turn out to be a great player, but I thought he wouldnt be better than Shaq in his prime. The guy has a lot of years left in him. He'll be a great player. To say he cant be better than Shaq in his prime is not stupid. You're not gonna pick a random person and be like they are better than a superstar. I agree it will be a little dumb saying that since he wont be as good as Shaq in his prime, but not stupid. Stupid makes it sounds like nonsense. Meaning real stupid. It is not as stupid as you're making it sound. You get what I mean? He may be a good player, but saying he will be better than Shaq in his prime is a little dumb.
     
  15. NTC

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    Why is that dumb? As I said, you cant read the future, you dont know whats going to happen is all I'm saying. I mean I'm sure no one expected Zach Randolph to average 29.0ppg this season either, I'm sure no one expected Kobe to play as bad as he has been, I'm sure no one expected Chicago to beat the reigning champions by 42 points, Basketball is a very un predictable game.

    I'm sure people were saying Micheal Jordan couldnt be better than say Oscar Robertson etc. in his prime either, and look at how he turned out.

    You just never know, to say he cant be better than Shaq in his prime is simply moronic.
     
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    Andrew Bynum will dominate Shaq at the free throw line.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Andrew Bynum will dominate Shaq at the free throw line.</div>
    Agreed.
     
  18. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    <div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why is that dumb? As I said, you cant read the future, you dont know whats going to happen is all I'm saying. I mean I'm sure no one expected Zach Randolph to average 29.0ppg this season either, I'm sure no one expected Kobe to play as bad as he has been, I'm sure no one expected Chicago to beat the reigning champions by 42 points, Basketball is a very un predictable game.

    I'm sure people were saying Micheal Jordan couldnt be better than say Oscar Robertson etc. in his prime either, and look at how he turned out.

    You just never know, to say he cant be better than Shaq in his prime is simply moronic.</div>

    If no one can predict the future, then why is saying he will be better than Shaq moronic as you put it? Isnt it the same as saying he will not be better than Shaq? You cant predict the future for both of them. You cant tell either one. So basically, if you believe he will be better, thats moronic because no one can tell the future. If you do think he wont be as good as Shaq in his prime, then I agree, it is too early to tell. Only time will tell. But I am just stating my opinion. You can think what you want, no one knows if he will be better or worse than Shaq in his prime, but what I predict is that he wont be as good as Shaq seeing how many things Shaq accomplished. It is almost impossible for anyone to accomplish as much as Shaq did. I understand basketball is a predictable game, but what you are saying is something i find incorrect. It is just the start of the season, and I am a 100% Zach Randolph wont average 29 ppg. Basketball is an unpredictable game, thats right, but there are somethings you can predict. Example: Milt Palacio won't be better than Allen Iverson in his prime. It is simple things you can predict. But what we are arguing over is a long thing. Kobe played bad for 1 weeks, very unlucky, Bulls wining against Heat by 42, lucky. It's not predicting, just a matter of luck. And we are talking about predicting. Bynum wont luckily average 3o points every game or get 13 rebounds a game luckily. He may get lucky for a game but not for 3-4 seasons. Thats my opinion. I am just predicting he wont be as good as Shaq in his prime. No one knows, but you can always make a prediction. Thats all.
     
  19. NTC

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    Have you not been taught to read yet?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I dont think he will be anywhere near as great as Shaq was in his prime either</div>

    [​IMG]
     
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    If we agree on the same thing. Then why wasting both of our time?
     

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