Tempers Flare As Knicks Almost Lose Another Guard To Bowen

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  1. Mr. J

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    The one on Francis is ridiculously intentional.

    Your foot doesn't just naturally stretch 4 feet under a defender. He already contested the shot, so what benefit does putting your foot under someone do? You don't release the ball with your foot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He's a physical, tenacious defender, and players have a problem with that. Does he make dirty plays on occasion? You could make that argument.</div>

    Players have no real problem with tenacious defenders, what they do have a problem with is mediocre players playing dirty defense in order to compensate for a total lack of skill.

    Bowen is not a good defender...he isn't even an average defender. Take away the dirty play (ridiculously aggressive handchecks, holding, moving screens, ect) and he isn't even getting 10-15 minutes a game.

    Quit giving cheaters props....hope the league suspends him for a VERY long time before someone gets hurt seriously.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The one on Francis is ridiculously intentional.

    Your foot doesn't just naturally stretch 4 feet under a defender. He already contested the shot, so what benefit does putting your foot under someone do? You don't release the ball with your foot.</div>

    Word, it's so blatantly obvious Bowen went out of his way to extend his foot underneath Francis and Carter. The one on Crawford wasn't too bad, but those other two were intentional.

    Jerome James needs to earn his coin by defending his teammates against the Bruce Bowen types. If Jerome James gets tossed for retaliating, the Knicks don't lose anyone important on the court, but at the same time they send a message to Bowen that we aren't going to put up with your crap.

    Maybe next time Francis goes up for a jump shot on Bowen, he can stick is foot 4 feet forward and nail Bowen in the nutsack.

    Then make the Bowen innocent look face, "What I do?" "I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that."
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Maybe next time Francis goes up for a jump shot on Bowen, he can stick is foot 4 feet forward and nail Bowen in the nutsack.

    Then make the Bowen innocent look face, "What I do?" "I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that."</div>

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    Bruce Bowen's cheap play makes me wish Shaq was a SG who was an amazing shooter. So Bruce would play D on Shaq, and when Shaq foot (20 lbs) land on Bowen's foot. Bowen gets seriously injured.
     
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    I can't understand when people are calling him dirty. You would call someone dirty if he cheats at poker, or tried to get away with intentional fouls, or breaking assorted rules.

    What Bowen is doing is John Chaney stuff. He goes out there with the intent to take players out of action. That's not dirty, that's something on a whole 'nother level.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">rafy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I can't understand when people are calling him dirty. You would call someone dirty if he cheats at poker, or tried to get away with intentional fouls, or breaking assorted rules.

    What Bowen is doing is John Chaney stuff. He goes out there with the intent to take players out of action. That's not dirty, that's something on a whole 'nother level.</div>
    And that's not dirty? There's a difference between fouling hard to send a message and fouling with the intent of injuring a player. Bowen unaturally stretching his foot out to injure a player is dirty. Shouldn't he be using his world class defense which got his undrafted ass into the NBA?
     
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    The league needs to suspend this guy before we have a bad injury. Some guy did the same thing to me on a b-ball court about 4 months ago, and I broke my ankle and ripped up my ligaments. No excuse for this kind of play, period.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And that's not dirty? There's a difference between fouling hard to send a message and fouling with the intent of injuring a player. Bowen unaturally stretching his foot out to injure a player is dirty. Shouldn't he be using his world class defense which got his undrafted ass into the NBA?</div>

    I mean that Bowen is much worse then dirty. And I don't believe for a minute that Chaney was trying to "send a message". Trying to hurt someone doesn't fall under "dirty" with me, I liken it to assault.

    imo it's not dirty. It should be illegal and punishable by law ffs there is enough video evidence of it. Just like if you assault someone with the intent to "send them a message". Bowen is trying to take people out of games. You can see him move into position, underneath a player whether on a jumper of a layup.

    Suspending Bowen wouldn't do a thing, he'd just come back and do the same thing. What good Bowen is doing for the NBA, besides almost wrecking the careers of many stars?
     

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