Pistons Could Have Had Iverson

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  1. bbwSwish

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">New York Daily News - Last summer, the Pistons had an opportunity to acquire Allen Iverson via trade. While it is unclear what GM Billy King was asking for in retun, a certain point guard who won the NBA Finals MVP may have been involved.

    "There's no way I'm trading Chauncey Billups," Dumars recently told associates.</div>

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    I'm wondering what the trade would have been...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"There's no way I'm trading Chauncey Billups," Dumars recently told associates.</div>
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    Much as I am a Chauncey fan, you have to wonder what a team with this starting five would be like:
    AI
    Rip Hamilton
    Sheed
    Tayshaun
    Nazr

    That's a whole lot of slashing and cutting to the basket on one team
     
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    ^^^They may not have had that starting line, because think they would have had to include another big contract, because Chauncy doesn't make much money, while AI does.
     
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    As big a Chauncey fan I am, and as much love as I have for him. . . A f'n I!! How could you pass on that!?

    I think the deal probally would've involved Sheed or Rip in it aswell, which is probally why he passed on it, but c'mon, Allen Iverson!
     
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    I think Iverson would have an amazing end to his career if he were on the pistons. He could be their go to scorer that they lack, which is really the teams only weakness. They would easily be the best team in the NBA. i dont even think the spurs or the mavs would have a chance against the pistons with AI.
     
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    I dont think he would make that big of an impact, especially if we had to give up Billups/Rip or Billups/Sheed.
     
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    I don't know why you Piston fans are kicking yourselves. Chauncey Billups makes this team run and if you haven't noticed, Allen Iverson makes people around him worse. Losing Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups in one offseason would have completely destroyed this team and Detroit would have switched from a team game to heavily relying on a superstar. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Swish15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know why you Piston fans are kicking yourselves. Chauncey Billups makes this team run and if you haven't noticed, Allen Iverson makes people around him worse. Losing Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups in one offseason would have completely destroyed this team and Detroit would have switched from a team game to heavily relying on a superstar. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.</div>

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    <div class="quote_poster">Smitty Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]</div>

    Allen Iverson needs the ball in his hands and is often looked upon as a ballhog. While I wouldn't go that far, I do feel that he takes a lot of shots and is the exact opposite of everything the Pistons stand for. Iverson is a superstar who will get 20+ shots each night. Meanwhile, the Pistons are a balanced team that likes to spread the ball around. The leader in field goals attempted for Detroit so far this season is Tayshaun Prince with 87. In comparison, Allen Iverson has attempted 135 shots this season. Detroit wouldn't be a good place for him because he would have to share the ball with three other players, Prince, Hamilton, and Wallace. Also, the Pistons really preach team defense and are one of the better defensive squads in the league. Billups is a enormous reason for this and by replacing him with Iverson, the team may suffer. Finally, this Pistons team's success is largely due to the chemistry these players have with one another. They all do things off the court with one another and are friends. Losing both Ben Wallace and Allen Iverson would have drastically impacted the chemistry that all these players have and that's something you just can't coach. I guess I should have worded my original statement differently rather than saying Iverson makes his teammates worse. What I really meant was that his style of game doesn't blend well with the type of basketball Detroit plays.
     
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    Iverson is a true star in every sense of the word, and is a top 3 player on the planet. adding him to an already good team would make the pistons unstoppable. Iverson would still take his shots, but thats not to say that he would'nt try to blend in with an already good team. he's a veteran and he wants to win. Iverson > billups+RIP. Just the trio of AI, Prince, and Wallace would be deadly. If you had a lineup like Iverson, delfino, prince, wallace, and mohammed, who would beat them? They would also still have a solid 6th man in mcdyss. i really dont see how this team could lose in any playoff series with iverson.
     
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    i would have done it... AI for Billups and someon except rip, prince and sheed... maybe AI + filler for Billups and Nazr is a no brainer
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson is a true star in every sense of the word, and is a top 3 player on the planet. adding him to an already good team would make the pistons unstoppable. Iverson would still take his shots, but thats not to say that he would'nt try to blend in with an already good team. he's a veteran and he wants to win. Iverson > billups+RIP. Just the trio of AI, Prince, and Wallace would be deadly. If you had a lineup like Iverson, delfino, prince, wallace, and mohammed, who would beat them? They would also still have a solid 6th man in mcdyss. i really dont see how this team could lose in any playoff series with iverson.</div>

    What makes you think that lineup would be better than Philly lineup now? I mean I'm not a Philly fan but if you look at it they have one of the best lineups on paper in the league.

    AI=AI
    Iggy>Delfino
    Korver=Prince
    Webber=Sheed
    Dalembert>Nozi

    Bench: =
     
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    Korver = Prince? Are you crazy?
     
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    Korver=Prince muwhahahaha.
    Webber=Sheed I'd honestly rather have sheed.
     
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    i think philly has better specialty players, i.e. korver a better 3 pt shooter, and dalembert a better shot blocker, but overall i think the pistons have a better team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Korver=Prince muwhahahaha.
    Webber=Sheed I'd honestly rather have sheed.</div>


    Yeah..I'd rather have Sheed than Webber..and I'm a Sixer fan lol.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Smitty Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah..I'd rather have Sheed than Webber..and I'm a Sixer fan lol.</div>

    If you look at it statistically they are pretty even. personally I would take C. Webb just because he's not going to hurt you with the tech's and I think he can guard the more dominate center's better than Sheed. Plus I think Webber plays to his strengths better (stay with the mid range jumper, more active inside) If you look at it over the last 5 years Webber has far better numbers than Sheed, remember Sheed only has a career average of about 7 rebounds/game while Webber is at around 20 point 11 rebound (Off the top of my head)

    I put Korver = with Prince because he is a deadly shooter and has been tearing it up this season.

    Korver's numbers PPG 16 | RPG 4 | APG 1.1 @29 mins 55%fg 61%3pt
    Prince's numbers PPG 14 | RPG 6.1 | APG 3.3 @35 mins 47%fg 40%3pt

    We all know Prince is the better defender but Korver isn't a horrible defender and have I mentioned he is a lights out shooter.

    I'm just saying that the Pistons are a good team because they share the ball and play as a team if you put Iverson's 25 shots a game on that team all you have to do is force him into bad shots and thats the ball game. and remeber you would have Delfino as your starting shooting guard (Which he is not ready for) I wouldn't trade that starting back court for just Iverson the would ust be stupid IMO
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">TheHighness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What makes you think that lineup would be better than Philly lineup now? I mean I'm not a Philly fan but if you look at it they have one of the best lineups on paper in the league.

    AI=AI
    Iggy>Delfino
    Korver=Prince
    Webber=Sheed
    Dalembert>Nozi

    Bench: =</div>
    actually it's
    Iggy>Delfino
    Korver<<<Prince
    Webber<<<Sheed
    Dalembert<Nazr
     

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