<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Otherwise, we have to play it like the Pistons did by distributing money resources towards a good starting five that can all play defense and work towards their strengths. Right now our strength is our backcourt.</div> In the case of the Pistons they got both Wallace and Billups for bargain prices, and they turned out to be great players in the right system. And it looks like they will lose Billups at the end of the season because he's going to want a big payday. And Wallace has left already because they couldn't pay him. I don't know if it was luck or shrewd GMing but the players they signed turned out better than when they acquired those players. Billups and Wallace. I'm leaning towards shrewd GMing because trading Hill and Stackhouse were great moves. So in this case would you let Billups and Wallace walk to stay under the cap? It's a tough question because Wallace is definitely getting older and will probably be less effective halfway through his new contract. And then the pistons would be stuck with an overpaid player. Or they could do what they did and let him walk and replace him with the cheaper Mohammad. Without Wallace I don't think they have a chance at the title anymore. But they still a playoff team in the east. And with Billups, he's definitely the best player on the team. But they already have Hamilton, Prince, and the other Wallace signed to big contracts. Though I don't know how long those contracts are. I think Hamilton's will expire in 2-3 years. Prince signed his extension last year. And Wallace I'm not sure about. I think they need Billups to make the playoffs in the east, so they can't let him walk, and if they try to do a sign and trade they will still be gaining more salary. I'd trade Hamilton though, since he is more easily replaceable. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that the GM should sign the players that fit the team. I think Biedrins fits the current mold (though good points about how Biedrins would be less effective on offense without a penetrating guard that can draw and dish to him, though from the few times I've seen his post moves, he's pretty smooth with them. We may be surprised by how good he actually is offensively.) Of course I wouldn't pay him the max. I don't think he will get that anywhere, unless he really blows up into a KG or a Dwight Howard. But he's going to demand a lot of money on the market. There's no avoiding it. Right now it is still too early in the season to gauge Biedrin's worth to the team but right now he's been invaluable defensively and engery wise and plus he's reliable for a dunk when passed to. The problem is when the GM has already made mistakes capwise already. I like Dunleavy as a role player but not for that much money. I never liked Murphy, though I like that he's passing better this season. Foyle, yeah, I think we all know that that was a terrible signing. J-rich is a good player but expendable and the most tradeable at this point, or maybe not now after the knee surgery. I'd rather have Pietrus (depending if they can sign him for a smaller shorter contract, if he wants as much as Dunleavy then they might was well keep Richardson) at SF and Ellis at SG. I have no idea what I'm talking about now. Too confusing. On a side note, if you were the Sonics GM would you resign Ridnour at the end of the season?
Gohn, I understood completely actually. I'd hold onto Jrich though because his upside is scary. I'm just not sure if he's a shooting guard or ever will be. Not many 20+ points per game scorer that can go outside or inside. He's just not a very good ballhandler or guy that can set other players up. That's why people who like a player like Dunleavy will bag on Jrich. Dunleavy is more guard-like than Jrich is. But Jrich is more small forward like than Dunleavy. Even if they cross the two positions over, they are both slow or undersized to guard small forward shooting guard. It is the same problem with Ellis at shooting guard as well. This whole money worry thing is a drag. Everyone knows it. It's why the pressure is on Mullin himself or Cohan to bail Mullin out by spending luxury tax. If we're looking to do a trade for luxury tax relief, this year would be the year to do it if we can sustain a winning streak so guys would want Murphy, Dunleavy, etc. The momentum is with Ellis, Baron, Richardson, Biedrins, Ike IMO. The other we can do without. I like Pietrus in his current limited role, but I think now is the time to trade him if we're leaning towards keeping Ellis. I dunno maybe Ellis/Pietrus could be more effective together than Richardson, but a healthy Richardson is awfully clutch and consistent contributor. Plus, he's a standup kind of guy. Every team needs one of those with talent. Zarko also could be a cheaper version of Dunleavy in 6th man role and instead of keeping Murphy we could find a Matt Bonner or Curtis Borchardt type or some college guy that hit the glass hard.
I think Biedrins could even take less money just to stay with Warriors... Remember draft where he whanted to get drafted only by GSW and even faked injury to drop down a bit. Mullin payed special attention for him before draft, when he personaly scouted him here, and I think they have prety good relationship.
<div class="quote_poster">hipokrat_x(LV) Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Biedrins could even take less money just to stay with Warriors... Remember draft where he whanted to get drafted only by GSW and even faked injury to drop down a bit. Mullin payed special attention for him before draft, when he personaly scouted him here, and I think they have prety good relationship.</div> Biedrins is a good kid. Not sure about his agent though Maybe we can convince him to stay for cheap if we promise to give Zarko a minimum extension. Cause I know Zarko is Biedrins' best friend Btw, I watched yesterdays game, the one televised in Canada. And in the second half the announcers were drooling over Biedrins. One play they were completely dumbfounded and said "How did he catch that?!" and throughout the 4th they said this kid is going to be great and he's only 20.
This is why I was upset that Montgomery managed to play this guy less than 15 minutes per game last season. A bad use of the roster, if you ask me. I guess foul trouble could have been a problem. But I would have rather played Andris like Nelson did Ike in the preseason. Just keep him in there if he was in foul trouble, and if he fouls out in 5 minutes then, there is nothing that could have been done anyhow. I do not think Andris fouled out of many games last season, despite his foul problems. A reason for this was Montgomery's rotations.
Monty also fell in love with the Dunleavy at PF idea and Foyle or Murphy/Ike at C. It sucks. He is a coach that usually would play smarter rotations, and I wonder if he just gave into which player has seniority and a bigger contract. Even if he would start Ike and Ellis out slowly, there's no reason to sit Biedrins when he gets two quick fouls when we were desperate for rebounding.
