2nd Week Rankings

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  1. Shapecity

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    Let's make the cutoff each Sunday for our rankings. So any games tonight or tomorrow we won't take into account for this week's college rankings.

    I'll have my Top 25 up later today.

    Teams Upset this week include:

    Arizona losing to Virginia
    Depaul losing to Bradley
     
  2. Voodoo Child

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    Wasn't sure if we were doing them this week or not because of the relatively few amount of games being played, but since I guess we are, here are mine -

    1) North Carolina
    2) Florida
    3) Kansas
    4) Wisconsin
    5) Georgetown
    6) LSU
    7) Duke
    8) Pittsburgh
    9) Texas A&M
    10) Ohio State
    11) Georgia Tech
    12) Syracuse
    13) UCLA
    14) Alabama
    15) Oregon
    16) Virginia
    17) Arizona
    18) Nevada
    19) Kansas State
    20) Washington
    21) Connecticut
    22) Virginia Tech
    23) Tennessee
    24) Maryland
    25) Michigan
     
  3. Shapecity

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    Yeah I was going to skip this week, but Mel is going out of the country for about 10 days, so I didn't want to skip consecutive weeks for our rankings. The week he's gone, we might just have to post it up the old way in the College Forum.
     
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    1. Florida
    2. North Carolina
    3. Kansas
    4. Georgetown
    5. Ohio State
    6. Wisconsin
    7. Pittsburgh
    8. LSU
    9. UCLA
    10. Duke
    11. Georgia Tech
    12. Texas A&M
    13. Alabama
    14. Boston College
    15. Washington
    16. Syracuse
    17. Indiana
    18. Virginia
    19. Arizona
    20. Gonzaga
    21. Nevada
    22. Kentucky
    23. Creighton
    24. UConn
    25. Marquette
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">14. Boston College</div>

    You know they just lost, right?
     
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    Well, assuming we're not counting tonight's BC loss or Marquette near miss, this is my top 25.

    1. Florida
    2. UNC
    3. Kansas
    4. UCLA
    5. G Town
    6. Ohio State
    7. Pitt
    8. LSU
    9. Wisconsin
    10. Texas A&M
    11. Bama
    12. Washington
    13. Memphis
    14. Duke
    15. Zaga
    16. G Tech
    17. Creighton
    18. Cuse
    19. Kentucky
    20. Virginia
    21. Zona
    22. Nevada
    23. Florida State
    24. Oregon
    25. Marquette
     
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    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    Why wouldn't we count them? They happened BEFORE you did your poll, right?

    I just say forget about it. The Week 1 rankings were our Preseason rankings. I thought it was just assumed that we weren't starting the rankings again until next Sunday, when all the teams have played.

    At this point, it's just too late and would throw us off schedule.

    Let's make it an emphasis to get these in on time this year and put some thought into it though. Last year we had some pretty late polls, shitty too (not excluding myself in saying that by any means).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Let's make it an emphasis to get these in on time this year and put some thought into it though. Last year we had some pretty late polls, shitty too (not excluding myself in saying that by any means).</div>

    There's one poll that looks pretty shitty to me right now without the national champs #1. [​IMG]
     
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    I think we're going to have to impose a limitation on the percentage of posts we can have in this forum arguing about Florida [​IMG]
     
  10. Voodoo Child

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    <div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think we're going to have to impose a limitation on the percentage of posts we can have in this forum arguing about Florida [​IMG]</div>

    THANK YOU! Jesus, I'm tired of arguing about that group of obnoxious, overrated, lucky assholes who had one good season out of 100 prior shitty ones and feel entitled to the same level of respect of the UNC's, Indy's, UK's, MSU's, UConn's, etc.

    Besides, they won the 2006 title. This is 2007. What the **** don't you get about that? Three of the five best players on UNC this season weren't on their squad last season. If they were, you wouldn't have won the title... simple as that. In fact, I'm shocked no one else put UNC #1.
     
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    Dude, let it go LOL
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You know they just lost, right?</div>
    I thought Sunday was the cutoff day for this week's college rankings...but if that's not the case, then i'll drop BC down...
     
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    1. Florida
    2. Pittsburgh
    3. Kansas
    4. North Carolina
    5. Ohio State
    6. UCLA
    7. Georgetown
    8. Wisconsin
    9. LSU
    10. Duke
    11. Nevada
    12. Alabama
    13. Texas A&M
    14. Washington
    15. Texas
    16. Kentucky
    17. Virginia
    18. Arizona
    19. Georgia Tech
    20. Conneticut
    21. Oregon
    22. Memphis
    23. Illinois
    24. Gonzaga
    25. Syracuse
     
  14. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    Am I the only one who doesn't see the point in doing them this week and so late at that?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Am I the only one who doesn't see the point in doing them this week and so late at that?</div>

    I posted why, Mel is going to be on vacation for almost two weeks, so I wanted to get something completed for the frontpage before he leaves.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I posted why, Mel is going to be on vacation for almost two weeks, so I wanted to get something completed for the frontpage before he leaves.</div>

    Yeah, but something that'll go up on like Wednesday?
     
  17. Shapecity

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    Well let's make the deadline Sunday night each week so we don't have any delays.

    This is a good exercise to get everyone on the same page. C.K. get your damn rankings done.
     
  18. GatorsowntheNCAA

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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">THANK YOU! Jesus, I'm tired of arguing about that group of obnoxious, overrated, lucky assholes who had one good season out of 100 prior shitty ones and feel entitled to the same level of respect of the UNC's, Indy's, UK's, MSU's, UConn's, etc.

    Besides, they won the 2006 title. This is 2007. What the **** don't you get about that? Three of the five best players on UNC this season weren't on their squad last season. If they were, you wouldn't have won the title... simple as that. In fact, I'm shocked no one else put UNC #1.</div>

    Sorry for corrupting this thread. I was just kidding around about that. I wasn't really serious. I respect Voodoo's opinion about UNC being #1 and it doesn't bother me at all. Now after saying all of that, I feel obligated to reply to his most recent thread.

    We don't deserve the respect of the UNC's, Indiana, UK, MSU, Uconn's tradition wise. Is there a rule that I haven't heard that one of the traditional powers have to be the pre season #1. If so, I retract all statement saying Florida deserves to be #1. One good year? We've gotten 8 straight 20 win seasons and have 3 Final 4 appearances in the last 12 years. I don't think we were like George Mason and just came out of nowhere. We've been a tournament quality team for a good string of years.

    Simple as that? Why wouldn't we have won it? There's no evidence saying we would lose it just like there is no evidence saying we would lose if we played them. That is your opinion, but don't say it is a 100% certainty that UNC of this year would beat our team last year. Just because a non traditional power won it all doesn't mean that it was in a down year. Maybe Uconn just wasn't that good. Maybe Duke just wasn't that good. Uconn couldn't beat George Mason, Duke couldn't beat LSU.

    UNC got a lot more talent this year. I agree. What about the Gators team? We are deeper and more talented then we were last year and we are more experienced. We still have that hunger.

    It's a new season. I'm not expecting us to repeat. I was just kidding dude. I won't mention Florida ever again in the ranking thread. I can't wait to see how far the Gators drop in your poll if Kansas beats us in 10 days.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    We don't deserve the respect of the UNC's, Indiana, UK, MSU, Uconn's tradition wise. Is there a rule that I haven't heard that one of the traditional powers have to be the pre season #1. If so, I retract all statement saying Florida deserves to be #1. One good year? We've gotten 8 straight 20 win seasons and have 3 Final 4 appearances in the last 12 years. I don't think we were like George Mason and just came out of nowhere. We've been a tournament quality team for a good string of years. </div>

    I didn't say that at all bro'. I was saying that the obnoxiousness that I'm hearing from their fans (not you in particular, but everyone I know at the moment who won't shut the **** up about how they dominate basketball) is very unwarrented. By the way, twenty win seasons are something to be proud of? Michigan State's worst season in recent memory was a 22 win season, and that was a disaster of a season. And yeah, you guys went to two final fours, not three. Tpyo? The one in 2000 where you guys lost to MSU in the finals was your first ever, right? With virtually no success in the 60's, 70's, 80's, or 90's, the Gators actually are a team that has just come out of nowhere. And even in '00-06, it's not like they've been dominant by any stretch of the imagination. Before this current title run, they were reliable for a first and second round exit. One run in the tournament with a weak line of teams infront of you doesn't make you a dynasty (not saying you guys didn't deserve it in '06, but when comparing the '06 team to other years' teams, you can definitely bring up the opponents).

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Simple as that? Why wouldn't we have won it? There's no evidence saying we would lose it just like there is no evidence saying we would lose if we played them. That is your opinion, but don't say it is a 100% certainty that UNC of this year would beat our team last year. Just because a non traditional power won it all doesn't mean that it was in a down year. Maybe Uconn just wasn't that good. Maybe Duke just wasn't that good. Uconn couldn't beat George Mason, Duke couldn't beat LSU.</div>

    When the hell did I say it was a 100% certainty? I said it was my opinion. Sorry for not typing "in my opinion," before each one of my posts, because, it's kind of implied that everything you write. The frequent use of the term "in my opinion" just becomes redundant.

    And again, we're not talking about fucking 2006. This is 2007. What I was saying is that I think that with the new core of freshmen, this UNC team is much better than the team you had last year, and inherently, is better than this year's as well.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">UNC got a lot more talent this year. I agree. What about the Gators team? We are deeper and more talented then we were last year and we are more experienced. We still have that hunger.</div>

    Yeah, you guys got deeper, but nowhere near the extent that UNC did. I really think that this year's freshman class is being underrated. In the past, most freshmen classes barely made impacts, aside from a select few (Hansbrough, Deng, Anthony, etc.). However, this year's class, is probably the most talented in the last decade or so, and so when you add in the age limit, these freshmen are bound to make a huge impact on the NCAA level. Tywon Lawson could finish this year as the best point guard in the nation, Brandan Wright (who I got the chance to play against this summer) is a straight-up beast defensively, and when he adds more weight, he has the length, athleticism, and general skillset to be just as effective on offense as well. Even Wayne Ellington is a future top ten pick. The Gators may have upgraded but not quite like the 'Heels.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's a new season. I'm not expecting us to repeat. I was just kidding dude. I won't mention Florida ever again in the ranking thread. I can't wait to see how far the Gators drop in your poll if Kansas beats us in 10 days.</div>

    I'm not taking anything personally... don't worry... I'm always come off a lot more condescending/hot-headed on these boards than I really am, so don't take anything personal from me either.

    But yeah, definitely mention Florida again, just when we POST the rankings, lol.

    And lmfao @ Kansas beating you... I'm NOT biased. Since when is #2 an insult? [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Voodoo Child Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I didn't say that at all bro'. I was saying that the obnoxiousness that I'm hearing from their fans (not you in particular, but everyone I know at the moment who won't shut the **** up about how they dominate basketball) is very unwarrented. By the way, twenty win seasons are something to be proud of? Michigan State's worst season in recent memory was a 22 win season, and that was a disaster of a season. And yeah, you guys went to two final fours, not three. Tpyo? The one in 2000 where you guys lost to MSU in the finals was your first ever, right? With virtually no success in the 60's, 70's, 80's, or 90's, the Gators actually are a team that has just come out of nowhere. And even in '00-06, it's not like they've been dominant by any stretch of the imagination. Before this current title run, they were reliable for a first and second round exit. One run in the tournament with a weak line of teams infront of you doesn't make you a dynasty (not saying you guys didn't deserve it in '06, but when comparing the '06 team to other years' teams, you can definitely bring up the opponents).</div>

    Actually we made it 94 too. So we've had 3 appearances in the last 12 years. I'm saying we've consistently been a good team. Never a great team, but a good team. You act like we were terrible for all eternity until last year. I don't think we are a dynasty at all. If we win it again this year, then we can start talking a little about a dynasty and start putting Florida as a basketball powerhouse.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, you guys got deeper, but nowhere near the extent that UNC did. I really think that this year's freshman class is being underrated. In the past, most freshmen classes barely made impacts, aside from a select few (Hansbrough, Deng, Anthony, etc.). However, this year's class, is probably the most talented in the last decade or so, and so when you add in the age limit, these freshmen are bound to make a huge impact on the NCAA level. Tywon Lawson could finish this year as the best point guard in the nation, Brandan Wright (who I got the chance to play against this summer) is a straight-up beast defensively, and when he adds more weight, he has the length, athleticism, and general skillset to be just as effective on offense as well. Even Wayne Ellington is a future top ten pick. The Gators may have upgraded but not quite like the 'Heels.</div>

    I'm not saying we upgraded like the Heels, but from most peoples posts and analysis they say we are basically the same exact team as last year, which I'm pointing out is not true. We have more depth, more experience and the players have improved even more. Just judging by that game last night that I watched with UNC against Winthrop, the freshman are very vulnerable to committing turnovers. I know Winthrop is a very good mid major, but with all the potential that UNC freshman showed, they showed just as much inconsistency. I just don't think a team that relies on freshman so much can be consistent throughout the entire tournament. They are bound to screw up somewhere down the line.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And lmfao @ Kansas beating you... I'm NOT biased. Since when is #2 an insult? [​IMG]</div>

    Dude man, Kansas could still beat us. I know they lost last night and I'm getting more confidence now in beating them, but don't forget Kansas is still extremely talented.

    #2 isn't an insult. I was only posting it as a joke.
     

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