You know it's going to come up so why not start now? Yes I know it's early but like I said in another post, it seems like the team is playing like it has for the last 2 seasons. The fact of the matter is this. KG is not getting younger. KG has done what he can to get the team to the next level and he is not being given the help he needs on a consistent basis. We know there's going to be a move this season....but will it be enough? We have 7 guys signed through 2009/2010. Some options, yes, but this is the future that KG is looking at. I respect him too much to want to see him retire having not won a damn thing. He's only been out of the 1st round once and that may have been it for him here. He's too good to waste away due to bad management. It's gotten to the point where I believe if KG gave up a year's salary to get some help....the office would come back with Loren Woods on a 4 year deal and Walter McCarty for 3. They seem to have no sense. There has been speculation from Chicago about that fact that they know that Wallace won't be the same after a year or two so they're looking to win now. A possibility is Gordon, Sweetney, Brown, Tyrus Thomas, and a 1st rounder. Sweetney and Brown come off the books next season. I would like Nocioni since they aren't letting go of Hinrich. I'd find a way to let go of Jaric too. This is just one that I've heard.
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Would you do a KG for Odom + Vlad Radmonovic + first rounder?</div> the way lamar is playing right now? and Vrad hasnt shown up yet... so i dont think so... because odom and radman get the triangle... if we trade for KG we would have to wait another year for him to get accustomed to the triangle
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">Would you do a KG for Odom + Vlad Radmonovic + first rounder?</div> That's the equivalent of asking to trade Kobe for Ricky Davis, Craig Smith, and a 1st rounder. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe23:</div><div class="quote_post">the way lamar is playing right now? and Vrad hasnt shown up yet... so i dont think so... because odom and radman get the triangle... if we trade for KG we would have to wait another year for him to get accustomed to the triangle.</div> I wouldn't think that it would take a full season for KG to learn the triangle. But if the trade were to be held off til' Feb., it might take some time.
If the Bulls are really offering all those players for KG, the TWolves are foolish not to pull the trigger immediately. This deal seems too, good to be true, because you cannot expect to get back equal value for KG at this point. The Bulls willing to give up 5 players for 1, doesn't make any sense. There has to be a third team involved for something like this to go down. Is it really in the best interest of Minnesota to trade KG, or is it better to do a 3 for 1 deal and gamble on an overpaid, former superstar? Why not pursue a player like Marbury, Francis, or Webber and unload three role players and maybe McCants or a 1st rounder for them? KG just needs one consistent scorer to balance out his game.
I think Marbury would be worth the gamble and not that hard to get considering Isiah is their gm. He loves big contracts so how about jaric, huddy, and eddie g for marbury? We may have to move ricky, hassell, or james to the bench but I think RD would have no problem with that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">KG just needs one consistent scorer to balance out his game.</div> They need to stop holding back MIKE JAMES! Without talking trade though, some things the Wolves need are: Someone to grab some offensive rebounds Ricky, Hudson and Foye to start making their 3PT shots
<div class="quote_poster">og15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">They need to stop holding back MIKE JAMES! </div> Consistency is the key. He had a great year last year, but what prior makes you feel he's the second fiddle? <div class="quote_poster">og15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Without talking trade though, some things the Wolves need are: Someone to grab some offensive rebounds </div> KG can't do it all. Blount is not a great rebounder. Griffen is a better presence on the defensive end and rebounding. But his offense is suspect. Maybe they should have Troy, Blount, and Foye for their bench scoring and KG, Ricky, James for the starter scoring. Just a thought. That way, we have 3 scorers starting with a rebounding center and defensive specialist (if the league let's him play), and 3 scorers with a rebounding 4 (Madsen) and defensive player in Reed. <div class="quote_poster">og15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Ricky, Hudson and Foye to start making their 3PT shots</div> I think Huddy should be more consistent with the 3. Foye is slashing and scoring which I'm happy about. Ricky just needs to be more consistent. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">What would you consider decent trade value in return for KG from the Lakers Sabretooth?</div> It would probably go something like Bynum, Odom, Walton, 1st rounder. Don't get me wrong. The idea of Kobe and KG would really fill the stadium and they couldn't be stopped. Who would you think could stop those two together? Now the Pistons that won the chip.....were so team oriented, they could possibly. But really think of it. Both would be so hungry and intense that sheer will would take them to the promise land. Remember when Jordan just WOULD NOT let the Bulls lose? It would be like that.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Why not pursue a player like Marbury, Francis, or Webber and unload three role players and maybe McCants or a 1st rounder for them? KG just needs one consistent scorer to balance out his game.</div> While trading KG would take huge sack, I think a trade like this would be a huge gamble. Cause if you don't win right away, u have sealed the fate of the franchise for a while. I wouldn't want any of those players. Webber is done and he will be making 22? Million next year. Marbary is cancer and Francis is a shadow of his former self. I think Minny has to bite the bullet and trade KG. If they can get Gordon, Thomas, and expiring contracts from the bulls, I'd do it.
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">While trading KG would take huge sack, I think a trade like this would be a huge gamble. Cause if you don't win right away, u have sealed the fate of the franchise for a while. I wouldn't want any of those players. Webber is done and he will be making 22? Million next year. Marbary is cancer and Francis is a shadow of his former self. I think Minny has to bite the bullet and trade KG. If they can get Gordon, Thomas, and expiring contracts from the bulls, I'd do it.</div> They need to gamble either way, but trading for Marbury or Francis is only a two or three year commitment, which also the amount of years left on KG's current deal. So the TWolves would give themselves a two or three year window to win a title and then completely rebuild once KG and Marbury or Francis comes off the books. Also in the trade scenario I proposed, the TWolves are not giving up any of the core rookies. The only player is Rashad McCants, but with Randy Foye on the team now, it doesn't make sense to keep both. The Chicago deal is something I would also do. If Chicago offered this deal, Minnesota is foolish to turn it down.
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">thats why kg should opt out when webber does and go play for the sixers!!</div> You wanna talk killer. I thought, if Sixers are going to let go of Iverson in the off-season I'd take him. Why? Because A.I.'s a game changer. Can be selfish at times..but when you're playing with one of the most unselfish players in NBA history, it works. KG will get his rebounds, can pass out of the double team, and can get his 20-10-5 in the flow of the game. THAT would be a match made for the finals. All they would need is a 3rd player who doesn't absolutely suck. It's different from Webber who was used to being the center piece in Sacramento. KG is the center piece in Minnesota....but compare the 2 in the level of unselfishness and hunger. Of course they would need a supporting cast....but think of how much they would need them (IF they stayed healthy)?
<div class="quote_poster">Sabretooth Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">KG is the center piece in Minnesota....but compare the 2 in the level of unselfishness and hunger. </div> Very true. Think of why Sam Cassell as argueably some of his most successful seasons with 2 of the games best unselfish big men (Garnett, Brand). Garnett doesn't demand the ball nearly as much as he should, but putting a second night in night out solid scorer takes what would normally be 100% of the focus on Garnett, to open up his game a little. And with having it being a guard scorer, it opens up the floor more, for Garnett to take his game inside without it being so overly crowded... that is why pairing him with a Marbury, or Francis and taking the leash off them and allowing them to score at will actually helps Garnett. I have always been the Garnett first, Timberwolves second mentality since I am not actually from Minnesota. I would like to see Garnett win a championship on his own terms, as a major contributor to the team, one of the stars of the team... rather than bouncing from team to team as a role player in the downslop of his career.
<div class="quote_poster">purehoops Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">... that is why pairing him with a Marbury, or Francis and taking the leash off them and allowing them to score at will actually helps Garnett. </div> The difference between to two in my previous options and these guys is the fact that the other two want to score and have the ability to be major game changers. So, in my mind, is true ability and mental toughness. Kobe and Iverson don't just WANT to score. They CAN and WILL score alot. Francis and Marbury are not mentally tough. JMO. I can see Marbury fighting in his teams locker room and Francis pouting (remember when he was drafted) and tanking.
KG should just make the safe choice and stick to Iverson. No one is ever going to quesetion is will to win, or his heart. The two on the same team would just be literally unstoppable.
