Baron-Andris-Monta Lenovo +/-

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  1. HiRez

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    According to the NBA.com's Lenovo statistic, the Warriors 3-man combo of Baron, Andris, and Monta is tied for third best in the NBA. In fact, the Warriors are well-represented in this stat, with 4 entries of the top 25. Looking at the single-player Lenovo for all players, Baron is #4, Monta is #10, and Andris is #11. This three-player combo is a powerhouse, I can't wait until JRich is back to 100% and we get Ike and Murph back. Well OK, Ike anyway. Pietrus is also tied for #40 on the list, not too bad.

    From NBA.com:
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What is the Lenovo +/- Stat?
    The Lenovo Stat shows the power of teamwork. It's a way of showing the best-engineered/best combination of players on the court. The Lenovo Stat is a plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game, to see how the team performs with various combinations. The Lenovo Stat can look at a variety of combinations – including the best two player, three player and even five player combinations for each game.</div>

    Don't read too much into it, of course. But it's food for thought.
     
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    Cool. Who is first, second, and the other third place combo?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Kensaku Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Cool. Who is first, second, and the other third place combo?</div>

    <div class='codetop'>CODE</div><div class='codemain'>T. McGradyR. AlstonC. HayesRockets 279 -212677<br/>S. Nash S. Marion L. Barbosa Suns 412 -351 61 7<br/>T. McGrady R. Alston S. Battier Rockets 496 -439 57 9</div>There's a link in the text in my original post, click on it and you can sort by # of players in the combo, season, splits, and team. The Rockets own 7 of the top 10, yet Yao isn't in the top two, strange.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">HiRez Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">According to the NBA.com's Lenovo statistic, the Warriors 3-man combo of Baron, Andris, and Monta is tied for third best in the NBA. In fact, the Warriors are well-represented in this stat, with 4 entries of the top 25. Looking at the single-player Lenovo for all players, Baron is #4, Monta is #10, and Andris is #11. This three-player combo is a powerhouse, I can't wait until JRich is back to 100% and we get Ike and Murph back. Well OK, Ike anyway. Pietrus is also tied for #40 on the list, not too bad.

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    Don't read too much into it, of course. But it's food for thought.</div>

    I knew it! Even if the statistic is debatable, it's all about what the backcourt can give you outside, and what the guys in the paint can give you inside. The backcourt can go inside or outside, but our inside guy Biedrins can score at a high rate because he doesn't bobble the ball and he's quick off his feet with quick hands to get the layup or dunk. Defensively, Baron and Ellis can actually work well against taller matches, and Biedrins works well guarding weakside when he isn't being too aggressive on defense. I know Biedrins is trying hard, but he's got to play smarter and figure out how the referees are playing it. The refs control the game many times...

    Besides backcourt in any offense should both give you assists, outside shooting, and dribble penetration and the occasional trip to the line. JRich was missing the dribble penetration part... He is not a setup guy.
     
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    Is there a damn way we can relay a message directly to the Warriors to tell them Biedrins needs to shoot one handed freethrows? I've noticed ever since he went back to two hand, his freethrows look like linedrives. It's a whole lot worse than when he did his one hand thing. Atleast it had a high arch, and he made like 4 in a row before.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">openglfx Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Is there a damn way we can relay a message directly to the Warriors to tell them Biedrins needs to shoot one handed freethrows? I've noticed ever since he went back to two hand, his freethrows look like linedrives. It's a whole lot worse than when he did his one hand thing. Atleast it had a high arch, and he made like 4 in a row before.</div>

    His shot is very flat (doesn't help that he's 7ft) and his mechanics look all bad. He's way too stiff. Btw, what the hell are you doing up at this time? haha
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His shot is very flat (doesn't help that he's 7ft) and his mechanics look all bad. He's way too stiff. Btw, what the hell are you doing up at this time? haha</div>

    Ya he seems to have many problems with his FTs, I don't think he gets on his toes either, he just shoots flat footed. Also hes double jointed so his elbow bends bacckwards which might add some extra unintentional force or direction on the ball:

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    <div class="quote_poster">AnimeFANatic Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">His shot is very flat (doesn't help that he's 7ft) and his mechanics look all bad. He's way too stiff. Btw, what the hell are you doing up at this time? haha</div>

    Mechanics I agree, but 7 feet, that's a different story. Checkout Dirk, Yao, and Okur, those guys shoot lights out on FT's. Up at 330am? Hah, that's quite normal. I hunt ghosts for a living, J/K. Insomniac perhaps. How bout yourself? What are you doing making a post 15 minutes after mine? Studying film on Biedrin's freethrow motion? Or just in awe Baron didn't drop 40 dimes. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">openglfx Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Mechanics I agree, but 7 feet, that's a different story. Checkout Dirk, Yao, and Okur, those guys shoot lights out on FT's. Up at 330am? Hah, that's quite normal. I hunt ghosts for a living, J/K. Insomniac perhaps. How bout yourself? What are you doing making a post 15 minutes after mine? Studying film on Biedrin's freethrow motion? Or just in awe Baron didn't drop 40 dimes. [​IMG]</div>

    LOL I just got back from watching Casino Royale, man that movie is long!

    As for Biedrins, it looks like his arm is broken in that pic.
     
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    Biedrins looks double jointed or something, in that picture.

    Maybe Beans should do one handed free throws and bank off glass.
     

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