Everytime the TWolves lose, I revisit KG trade scenarios. One trade I've been meaning to discuss is a deal between the Magic and TWolves. The Magic have trade assets the TWolves could certainly benefit from, and teaming KG with D12, could produce arguably the best frontcourt ever. They would surely draw comparisons to the Twin Towers (Rockets, Spurs) and other famous frontcourt duos. The Magic have Grant Hill's expiring contract and young players to help restock the TWolves for their rebuilding phase. The Magic could deal Grant Hill + Darko Milic (after he extends) + 1st Round Pick or JJ Redick for KG. The Magic could also land a player like Trenton Hassell in the deal by unloading one of their point guards, Dooling, Arroyo, or Diener. The TWolves clear tremendous cap space and bring in Milic to develop alongside Randy Foye. Adding JJ Redick would help Minnesota sell some tickets and give the TWolves a new core to build with, along with McCants. Magic upgrade trememdously with KG and give themselves a legit shot at making to the Finals.
Interesting trade scenario, but do you think that Twolves would do that without getting Dwight or Jameer? I'm torn on this. We have been playing great and Darko is starting to get some time and starting to produce in this time. Grant Hill has been our only consistent scorer and has been the rock that the young guys fall on. Although Dwight and KG would be absolutely nasty.
<div class="quote_poster">GatorsowntheNCAA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Interesting trade scenario, but do you think that Twolves would do that without getting Dwight or Jameer? I'm torn on this. We have been playing great and Darko is starting to get some time and starting to produce in this time. Grant Hill has been our only consistent scorer and has been the rock that the young guys fall on. Although Dwight and KG would be absolutely nasty.</div> I'm sure they'd salivate to get Howard, but Otis Smith would probably laugh in McHale's face. Minnesota has lost leverage with KG, and will be put in a desperate situation, once KG's option year comes up. If they can't make a deal to improve their chances of winning, I imagine KG opts out, in which case the TWolves would receive nothing for him in return. They'd save $43Million dollars in salary, but losing KG for nothing sets back their franchise another 10 years. So far the TWolves have turned down a deal which would have landed them Ben Wallace & Rasheed Wallace (one or two seasons ago), I think they passed up on Odom & Kwame or Odom & Bynum from the Lakers last year, and this year they passed up on Ben Gordon, PJ Brown, Tyrus Thomas. With those 3 teams out of the running, there's only a handful of teams who could afford KG, and offer enough in trade. However, Orlando is one of the few teams who has a player with a grandfather contract in Grant Hill. Having this trade chip, prevents Orlando from completely gutting their team to land KG and his high paid contract. Only Boston and maybe Indiana could step in and offer a better deal.
I really like this idea, the Timberwolves need to realize that as good as he is, KG isnt taking them anywhere any time soon, they need to start rebuilding the team, and they need to start now. At least this way they gain some cap space with Hills contract, and they gain some young pieces to build around in Darko and Redick or the 1st rounder.
No way the Magic would even think about dealing Howard now, even for K.G. However, a package with Darko or Hill may be able to pry Garnett away. Personally I think the Wolves should look at Chicago and try to get 2 of the following players: Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha, Luol Deng, or Andres Nocioni. If a trade with the Bulls doesnt work out, the Magic should remember that Vince Carter is in his walk year and has made public his willingness to move down the coast to his home, Orlando. A lineup of Nelson, Turkoglu, Carter, Milic, and Howard would make the Magic title contenders for a long time.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Everytime the TWolves lose, I revisit KG trade scenarios. One trade I've been meaning to discuss is a deal between the Magic and TWolves. The Magic have trade assets the TWolves could certainly benefit from, and teaming KG with D12, could produce arguably the best frontcourt ever. They would surely draw comparisons to the Twin Towers (Rockets, Spurs) and other famous frontcourt duos. The Magic have Grant Hill's expiring contract and young players to help restock the TWolves for their rebuilding phase. The Magic could deal Grant Hill + Darko Milic (after he extends) + 1st Round Pick or JJ Redick for KG. The Magic could also land a player like Trenton Hassell in the deal by unloading one of their point guards, Dooling, Arroyo, or Diener. The TWolves clear tremendous cap space and bring in Milic to develop alongside Randy Foye. Adding JJ Redick would help Minnesota sell some tickets and give the TWolves a new core to build with, along with McCants. Magic upgrade trememdously with KG and give themselves a legit shot at making to the Finals.</div> So you're saying we should extend Darko's contract in the middle of the season? Because after the season, Grant Hill's contract won't be expiring... It will be expired. Darko's going to be a restricted free agent, so why don't we just trade his expiring contract too? I mean, then the T-Wolves can actually determine how much theyr'e willing to pay then.
Im not really a fan of this trade. KG would bring a whole other dimension to this team, but we are one of the deepest teams in the league and we would potentially lose 4 or 5 players for 1 and maybe 2 maybe. Im not really sure if this would also stunt Dwight's development, because he then would not be the go to guy if you can call him that. Also he would be the 2nd option in the post. I say no
<div class="quote_poster">TwinTowers Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Im not really a fan of this trade. KG would bring a whole other dimension to this team, but we are one of the deepest teams in the league and we would potentially lose 4 or 5 players for 1 and maybe 2 maybe. Im not really sure if this would also stunt Dwight's development, because he then would not be the go to guy if you can call him that. Also he would be the 2nd option in the post. I say no</div> Essentially it would only be 2 players. Darko and Grant Hill. 3 if you throw in Dooling or Arroyo for Hassell.
Well what was said is Hill, Darko, 1st round pick and or J.J. Redick for KG and throw in one of our PG's for Hassell also.
<div class="quote_poster">Chuck Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So you're saying we should extend Darko's contract in the middle of the season? Because after the season, Grant Hill's contract won't be expiring... It will be expired. Darko's going to be a restricted free agent, so why don't we just trade his expiring contract too? I mean, then the T-Wolves can actually determine how much theyr'e willing to pay then.</div> The TWolves would probably want Darko signed because they wouldn't want to risk the possibility of losing him in free agency.
Dwight can definitely learn a lot from the likes of Garnett and his game would also benefit greatly since Garnett is more of a perimeter power foward and Dwight is capable of drawing defenders on the inside. I wouldn't mind doing it if the trade was offered. The T-Wolves would want a franchise player back in return though.
isnt garnett likes dwights favorite player? i remember when they interviewed him while he was in high school and he use to tape the wolves game so he could learn his moves
I would hate it if the wolves did this! We would lose my two favs, KG and Hassell, plus we get crap in return. I know we don't have much leverage, but a player that can actually play would be nice. Not an expiring and darko.
Yes, Kevin Garnett is Dwight Howard's favorite player so a move like this would keep him in Orlando for as long as we want him. I have a lot to say on this issue but I gotta go right now. I'll come back and post later.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The TWolves would probably want Darko signed because they wouldn't want to risk the possibility of losing him in free agency.</div> Wouldn't they have the right to match any offer he got, as well as bird rights, though? It'd be the same thing, if there aren't any stipulations where these rights are lost in the trade. That way, they would have the certain ability to keep Darko, but they could get rid of him if they felt his price was too high. To me it seems not extending Darko would give the T-Wolves more leverage, and another option, say, if they just want just salary cap relief. Let me know if I'm wrong please
interesting. but i would have to say no because kg is getting old. id rather have darko+dwight for 12+ years than kg and dwight for 2 years
<div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">interesting. but i would have to say no because kg is getting old. id rather have darko+dwight for 12+ years than kg and dwight for 2 years</div> Gotta agree with you, though I can't really be mad either way
<div class="quote_poster">d-money12 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">interesting. but i would have to say no because kg is getting old. id rather have darko+dwight for 12+ years than kg and dwight for 2 years</div> Are you serious? So you would rather have Dwight plus crapo darko battling it out for the playoffs for the next 12 years....or become legit contenders right away with KG for a guy that hasen't proven anything? KG ain't exactly a grandfather.....he's 30.
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Are you serious? So you would rather have Dwight plus crapo darko battling it out for the playoffs for the next 12 years....or become legit contenders right away with KG for a guy that hasen't proven anything? KG ain't exactly a grandfather.....he's 30.</div> Darko isn't exactly crapo like you think. He's a very good player, we just don't give him enough playing time. He won't ever be at the caliber of KG, but we don't need someone the caliber of KG when we have Dwight. We basically will just need quality role players and I bet that Darko is better than a quality role player. I'm torn between the trade, we give up quite a bit for KG, but he's KG.
