<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Charley Rosen of Fox Sports was in Boston to watch the Nets beat the Celtics Wednesday. In addition to providing thumbnail sketches of the rotation players, the acerbic Rosen has advice for Rod Thorn: trade Carter and get a big man because Jason Collins is a career backup masquerading as a starter and Nenad Krstic will never play "big" enough. Rosen is enamored of Net rookies Marcus Williams and Hassan Adams and has always been a big Kidd fan.</div> Source These days, it looks like a good idea.
i really dont see what the point of keeping him is. jefferson could easily step up and be the number 1 option for this team. the nets desperately need some kind of inside presence.
I said it before: the oppurtunity presented itself last season. It required sacrifice for one or two seasons, but in the long run it would've helped more. I honestly don't think the Nets situations is as bad as it seems right now, but they'll never be a real contender unless they get a legit post presence.
I don't wan't to see VC leave, I rather have Krstic get traded for a solid post player and rebounder who can also play defense.
Yea I doubt they will get equal value for Vince. They just need a real center who is athletic and can play defense.
who could you guys trade him for? its not like the wolves would be intrested in yet another wing man, and garnett looks to be the only option for a trade, but maybe j.o or gasol are options, but i doubt it
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't wan't to see VC leave, I rather have Krstic get traded for a solid post player and rebounder who can also play defense.</div> Yeah cause teams are so willing to trade Emeka, Rasheed, Memo, or David West for Nenad. We can get PJ Brown, Francisco Elson, if that's what you like. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In any event, New Jersey's extended stretch on the critical list still bodes ill for their long-term recovery. Let's make a close diagnosis of the patients' charts: Vince Carter had an uneven performance — 6-15, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals, 23 points. The Nets didn't really start going to him until midway through the third quarter, mainly because he wasn't shooting well and was also forcing too many shots. (Eight of his shots were decidedly ill-advised, with two of them eventuating in airballs.) When Carter wasn't scoring, he lost what little focus he had on defense. Hey, he even neglected to locate Brian Scalabrine long enough to let the red-head knock down a pair of treys. As ever, Carter tended to massage the ball too much. Though he was able to make several sparkling assist-passes to cutting teammates, this habitual behavior also halted the Nets' vaunted ball-movement and totally disrupted their offensive flow. Still, as the game ticked away, Carter was flawless from the free-throw line (10-10). Poll For sure, he's a bona fide All-Star, but just as assuredly, Carter should not be deemed a franchise player for any team that has serious championship aspirations. The motor behind the Nets' third-quarter comeback was actually Jason Kidd — 9-16, 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers, 19 points. The Nets were trailing by 15 and the body bag was being unzipped when J-Kidd asserted his leadership. Scoring on three hard-driving layups, hitting a 3-ball, then pilfering a pass and netting a breakaway layup. It was Kidd's never-say-die spurt that gave his teammates heart enough to come all the way back and steal the win. In clutch-time, Kidd also took his turn guarding Boston's two top guns, Paul Pierce and Wally Szczerbiak. Indeed, Kidd is not only the Nets' best defender, he's also their best rebounder, and best post-up creator. Ever since his micro-fracture surgery, however, Kidd has lost a half-step — a loss which was particularly evident whenever the super-quick Sebastian Telfair easily raced past him. Kidd retaliated by posting Telfair and scoring on a powerhouse spin — but why, oh why, didn't Lawrence Frank call this same number again, and again, and ...? Anyway, Kidd is a leader, a quiet yet ferocious competitor, and a winner. Richard Jefferson never got involved in the offense — 5-11, 18 points — but did bury a crucial 3-ball when the game was up for grabs. He also seemed a step slow on defense — perhaps his recently-sprained ankle was sore as the Nets played their second game in two nights. Still, if Jefferson is an overrated defender, he remains a valuable third option at the other end of the court.</div> This part of the article I find to be dead on. If we win games, it will be because Kidd made it happen more than Vince did. I found Vince's play recently piss poor, like he doesn't give a damn as long as he appearing has a good year on the stat sheet.
<div class="quote_poster">nextlevelgame Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah cause teams are so willing to trade Emeka, Rasheed, Memo, or David West for Nenad. We can get PJ Brown, Francisco Elson, if that's what you like. </div> We could get Okafor for Krstic. If not we throw in a second round pick. As for Carter, if he was so worried about his stats why does he average 3 assists a game, (which is low for him) and how come he isn't shooting the ball well?
<div class="quote_poster">Answer_AI03 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">trade vc, collins, and boone for to the sixers for C-webb!!</div> Hmmm... You guys would just love that As much as the Nets need a presence inside, Webber is just not worth the players you mentioned. Take away Carter and you've got yourselves a deal!
<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> We could get Okafor for Krstic. If not we throw in a second round pick. </div> Are you nuts? Okafor, in terms of value, is here: *** and Krstic is here: *** Nobody is going to trade a great defender and rebounder who is already one of the best defensive big men in the league for a guy like Krstic, who is a decent offensive player (maybe even pretty good) but is, right now, a weak defender and only a decent rebounder. Other than that, Okafor is the face of the Bobcats franchise: he's their first ever pick, and he's the perfect building stone for them. I doubt the Bobcats would trade him right now, while they're still building for the future. Young big men who can defend and rebound like beasts aren't easy to find nowadays, while big men who can shoot are getting more and more common.
<div class="quote_poster">Carter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> We could get Okafor for Krstic. If not we throw in a second round pick. As for Carter, if he was so worried about his stats why does he average 3 assists a game, (which is low for him) and how come he isn't shooting the ball well?</div> Shooting the ball well is a bad thing? Also he is shooting the ball well on the season as a whole. It all depends on what the Nets can get. I don't feel Jefferson is a true first option, but Nenad is quite good, and Jefferson won't have to put up really huge numbers, since the guy they'd get back should be able to contribute too.
