So i was on this site and these Kobe stans really started getting into it with the Kobe haters (you wouldn't believe the segregation of the two on this site) and some made good points but one thing stuck to me.. This is Kobe Bryant's 5th time scoring 50+ before the 4th quarter. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">56 in 3 quarters against memphis - blowout. sat 4th 52 in 3 quarters against denver - blowout. sat 4th 62 in 3 quarters against dallas - blowout. sat 4th 53 in 3 qtrs (81 in 4) - played through 4th 52 in 3 quarters against utah - blowout. limited 4th</div> Those are some staggering numbers. My question is, who else in the NBA has done this? I know Jordan did this once and Wilt did this plenty of times, but who else? I'm curious. BTW, I wasn't sure whether to post this in the NBA or Lakers forum. Anyways, Discuss.
It just goes to show how great of a scorer Kobe really is. I don't think anyone in the league can match-up with him on offense. You can say all you want about how good of a scorer Lebron is, how good Wade is, and how good Carmelo is, but I have yet to see any of the above dominate the way Kobe has. If Kobe had played a good portion of the fourth quarter in those games, he would have multiple 60 and 70 point performances, or maybe another 80 point out-burst. When it is all said and done, I still think Kobe is the best scorer in the league, because no matter what you, I have yet to see guys like Lebron take over the same way Kobe has throughout his career. Though I'm not saying Lebron won't ever have the type of impact Kobe has had, but as of now, there shouldn't be a question as to who is the best scorer in the league. If I could pick one player in the NBA to give me 50 points on any given night, I would have to go with Kobe, no question. Anyone who wouldn't is either on crack, or they are just a hater
I think any of the above mentioned Melo, Wade, and Lebron share the ability to take over a game much like Kobe. However, I think Kobe's attention to practice and training and drive to continue working on his game is unparalled in this league. Many people have biased views against Kobe for whatever reason, but his consistent strain to further his game is what makes him stand out over these other guys. I think the future greats will realize this with time. If Kobe can pull his team to 50+ wins he will be the easiest case to make for MVP, unless of course the suns never lose again this season-- lol j/k.
<div class="quote_poster">Trench Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Imagine if he played the fourth in those other games. He could have beat Wilts record at anytime.</div> which record? the 100 pt game? or Wilt's second highest scoring total? I think it would have been quite difficult for Kobe to have reached 100 in any of those games.
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">which record? the 100 pt game? or Wilt's second highest scoring total? I think it would have been quite difficult for Kobe to have reached 100 in any of those games.</div> Agreed. Even if we take the 62 points in three quarters against Dallas Kobe would have had to score 38+ in the fourth to break the record. Possible I suppose... but improbable. But then again so is 30 points in a quarter after recovering from arthoscopic knee surgery. Plus, games can go into overtime.
25 per quarter doesn't sound like that big a number when you think about it... at least not if your name is Kobe Bryant...
i was thinking the same, but I honestly doubt Kobe can hold up taking 50+ shots. He would need to do some serous ball-hogging. lol
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">which record? the 100 pt game? or Wilt's second highest scoring total? I think it would have been quite difficult for Kobe to have reached 100 in any of those games.</div> Difficult? YES. Impossible? No. Remember he sat out the 4th in almost all those games. Who knows what Kobe is capable of if he had played those 4th quarters. Problem is, most of them were blowouts so he might have slowed the tempo a bit. But when Kobe is on and in that ZONE of his, no one on this planet can stop him defensively.
I'm thinkin you meant 50 by the end of the 3rd, not in the third, especially considering the record is 34. Beyond this, LeBron only had 50+ twice last year, and he played 42+ minutes in each of those games.
I think,this is one of the best arguments you can put about "Kobe incompleted performances",because i am angry of all those times he have the chances to do more records more acomplishments and more impressive games totals and he not have the chances because all of those games all over before the 4 quarter.
<div class="quote_poster">Jorgito kb24 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think,this is one of the best arguments you can put about "Kobe incompleted performances",because i am angry of all those times he have the chances to do more records more acomplishments and more impressive games totals and he not have the chances because all of those games all over before the 4 quarter.</div> that won't do nearly as much for his legacy as scoring 25ppg and being a master facilitator at this point
I'm not worried much about Kobe getting records right now. All I care about is winning. If Kobe is getting records in the process, cool, but it's not necessary and is by all means an afterthought. In fact, when we're up big going into the 4th, unless Kobe has about 70 or so through 3 quarters, I'd want to see him on the bench, because, quite frankly, freak injuries do occur, and if Kobe goes down, this team could be in trouble.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">It's also no fluke when Kobe Bryant has one of those games such as last week's 30-point third quarter and 52 overall against the Jazz. This wasn't like his 81-point game against a losing Raptors team last season. No, this was against Jerry Sloan's league-best Jazz, who zoned Bryant and had top defender Andrei Kirilenko on him as well. Jazz broadcaster Rod Hundley was present when George Gervin had the league-record 33 points in a quarter against the old New Orleans Jazz in 1978. Hundley said Gervin's teammates were trying to help Gervin win the scoring title the last game of the season, a common practice in those days when teams would lay down to help one player. "The defense was laughing. George was laughing," Hundley said. "Nobody was trying to shut him down. I probably thought that was the greatest [performance] I would ever see. I mean, 53 points in a half? But Gervin's night didn't seem as spectacular as what Kobe did."</div> Source Same thing is true for Wilt's 100 point game. Wilt's teammates goal prior to the game was to get Wilt 100 points. It was a team effort for Wilt to shatter the individual game scoring record.
<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not worried much about Kobe getting records right now. All I care about is winning. If Kobe is getting records in the process, cool, but it's not necessary and is by all means an afterthought. In fact, when we're up big going into the 4th, unless Kobe has about 70 or so through 3 quarters, I'd want to see him on the bench, because, quite frankly, freak injuries do occur, and if Kobe goes down, this team could be in trouble.</div> I couldnt agree more. Winning titles would be far more satisfying than breaking records. A couple more titles would really solidify Kobe's place in NBA history and I think thats what he should strive for rather than individual records.
<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">What about the Toronto game? What did he have going into the 4th then?</div> If the first post in this thread is correct, he had 53 points going into the 4th quarter.
