Marvin Williams to the Suns?

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  1. DLee7283

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    Suns Trade
    Ledrano Barbosa
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    Kurt Thomas
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    1st round pick from Rando trade{via Boston}

    for
    Hawks Trade
    Marvin Williams
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    Tyrone Lue
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  2. NTC

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    Do you have a source? Or is this just somthing you made up yourself?

    Regardless, this trade would never happen, Hawks wont give up Williams, and definatley not at that price.
     
  3. bronbron23

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    Barbosa is too much a part of the suns system also, he provides scoring off the bench and is also a proven scorer unlike williams. Kurt Thomas is a solid backup/rebounder/mid range guy. Would be nice to see williams on this team maybe nash would get his stats up but I wouldn't like to give up Thomas and Barbosa.
     
  4. DLee7283

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    My idea for Phoenix was that they have a lineup up front of Amare/Williams/Marion.All tall and athletic,perfect for the run and gun offence

    having Williams would enable Marion to go back to the Three where he has said time and time again he would like to play more at.

    True Barbs has played well for Phoenix but will Banks,Bell,Jones and Diaw are all backcoart capable,plus throw in Jalen Rose and Tyrone Lue if you really have alot of depth in the backcoart

    For Atlanta it is a great opportunity to get an upcoming PG in Barbs on their team after flundering getting Chris Paul.

    Barbs and Johnson in the backcoart along with J Smith and Childress at the 3 would be a great exciting team and more balanced
     
  5. Chutney

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    Barbosa isn't the type of PG that Atlanta needs. He's primarily a scorer who can distribute as well, and they have a lot of that in their backcourt. Also, there's no way in hell they'd give up on Marvin Williams so early, especially since he looked to have a great season before the injury.
     
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    I'd do it if I'm Atl and that pick is not an overprotected.
     
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    I don't really think this is a "rumour" since you obviously just made the thing up.

    I wouldn't know about the actual trade either. Marvin looks like a pretty important piece to Atlanta, despite being injured and everything. Barbosa on the other hand, seems just like a really good role player to me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">asdf Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't really think this is a "rumour" since you obviously just made the thing up.

    I wouldn't know about the actual trade either. Marvin looks like a pretty important piece to Atlanta, despite being injured and everything. Barbosa on the other hand, seems just like a really good role player to me.</div>

    My basis for this trade is that I think Marvin Williams would flourish in Phoenix's system for years to come and could play the 4 so Marion can go back to the 3.I like Kurt Thomas at the 4 and 5 for now but he slows down the offence sometimes and he is getting past him prime.He still hustles and gets rebounds but I think Phoenix needs some more upfront talent if their gonna go far come playoff time.

    Look at what the Suns's offence did for Tim Thomas who seemed like he was on his way out of the league
     
  9. Chutney

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    Yes, but why would Atlanta give up on him. I don't understand this perception that Marvin Williams has failed with the Hawks. He's been a potential player all along and his untimely injury this year stopped him from completing what looked to be a great season.

    You continue to make up these trade scenarios that only benefit one side. The fact that every following post you've made in this thread has focused on Phoenix's perspective is proof of that.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, but why would Atlanta give up on him. I don't understand this perception that Marvin Williams has failed with the Hawks. He's been a potential player all along and his untimely injury this year stopped him from completing what looked to be a great season.

    You continue to make up these trade scenarios that only benefit one side. The fact that every following post you've made in this thread has focused on Phoenix's perspective is proof of that.</div>


    I already said its for the Hawks to get Barbs.They have a hole at their PG position

    If Ford for Villinueva happened why would it be hard to believe Williams for Barbs could happen?

    If someone said 2 weeks before the Ford-Villinueva trade they would be traded for each other,People would be going ''Raps will never give up on Charlie V this early,your an idiot,etc.''

    Get my point,quit acting like everything is written in stone in the NBA
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">nba_specialist_24_7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I already said its for the Hawks to get Barbs.They have a hole at their PG position

    If Ford for Villinueva happened why would it be hard to believe Williams for Barbs could happen?

    If someone said 2 weeks before the Ford-Villinueva trade they would be traded for each other,People would be going ''Raps will never give up on Charlie V this early,your an idiot,etc.''

    Get my point,quit acting like everything is written in stone in the NBA</div>

    You have to remember ATL had Mo Williams to take over after TJ had gone.

    Back to your original proposal on the Suns ATL trade,

    <div class="quote_poster">nba_specialist_24_7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> My idea for Phoenix was that they have a lineup up front of Amare/Williams/Marion.All tall and athletic,perfect for the run and gun offence

    having Williams would enable Marion to go back to the Three where he has said time and time again he would like to play more at.

    True Barbs has played well for Phoenix but will Banks,Bell,Jones and Diaw are all backcoart capable,plus throw in Jalen Rose and Tyrone Lue if you really have alot of depth in the backcoart

    For Atlanta it is a great opportunity to get an upcoming PG in Barbs on their team after flundering getting Chris Paul.

    Barbs and Johnson in the backcoart along with J Smith and Childress at the 3 would be a great exciting team and more balanced</div>

    I really like the idea of Marion going to the SF but at times he scores more when he is at the 4 because he is matched up against bigs that can't guard him, however this could be achieved with some rotations in games where he could move from PF and back down to SF. But I totally agree with you he needs to be at the 3.

    Barbosa likes it in Phoenix and plays well there maybe something to do with the system, like you said Williams would play well there because of the system. Take Barbosa out of the system and throw him into ATL is he going to do so well, most likely not, so why would ATL do this trade. ATL have also tried to make up for there point guard problems by signing Speedy Claxton and I don't think they're going to give up on him just yet.

    Kurt Thomas slowing the team down... I really don't agree with you there and in addition to this he will be playing less minutes now Amare is back so I guess he won't be slowing the Suns down as much.

    To sum up would I rather have Lue other Barbosa no way...
    Would I rather have Thomas other Williams...no
     
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    The Hawks have invested their future in Marvin Williams. There is no reason for them to give up on him now. Tyrone Lue and Speedy Claxton have done an admirable job at the point guard slot for the Hawks. Lue is averaging career highs while Claxton has performed when given the playing time. Williams, just recently came back from injury and is averaging 13.5 points a game and at age 21 can only be going up. I also don't see why the Hawks would have any desire to take on Kurt Thomas' contract when they have Shelden Williams, Josh Smith, and Zaza in the front court already.
     
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    [​IMG] who is this nba specialist character? Loading up the rumor mill with trade scenarios he did on nba live. Hilarious.
     
  14. bronbron23

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    <div class="quote_poster">GiantMidget Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] who is this nba specialist character? Loading up the rumor mill with trade scenarios he did on nba live. Hilarious.</div>

    yeah explain yourself nba specialist...
     
  15. SteveNash4MVP

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    I wouldn't mess with the Suns roster at this point in the year. This team is looking at a NBA championship so don't mess with what we got unless it needs fixing.
     
  16. Flow

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    I think that the Suns have all their pieces together and there's no need to touch 'em.

    They're tough contenders for the title this year. I mean a 15 games stroke is a good accomplishment. A franchise record, wasn't it.
     
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    Yeah, I really love this nba specialist guy. Especially since he definitely isn't one.
     
  18. d-money12

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    i dont kno...i dont think atl would want to deal with the suns again after the diaw trade, simply because williams would probably turnout to be a 20/10 guy...i mean who expected diaw to be this good?
     

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