A.I. demands a trade, are the W's a realistic destination?

<div class="quote_poster">Run BJM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Source

I think we've got some good pieces to offer for A.I. but do we want him? I personally would love to have him because es one of my all-time favorite players to watch and hes a guy who can score at will and get to the FT line. However I don't think he could run a fastbreak team like ours, he turns the ball over too much to really be the set-up man a la Nash and Baron. But if we trade JR (assuming one of Baron or JR would have to be moved) then we'll have a Baron/A.I./Monta backcourt, which is a little extreme with guys who like to dominate the ball and shoot. But if we offer something like JR (young star/replacement scorer), Murphy (cap filler/decent big man role player), Ike (young big) plus we trade their first round pick back or a few seconds for A.I., Korver, and Hunter that would be a solid trade for us.</div>

I doubt they take JRich because he's injured and has low trade value right now. It would have to be Baron in the deal. Besides, I rather keep JRich. AI can play the point on a part-time basis. Remember with Nelson, it's not a prerequisite that the PG brings the ball up. A future lineup of:

PG: Monta, AI
SG: AI
SF: Dun, JRich
C: Beans
PF: Murphy

An offer of Baron + Ike would have to be a starting point, but it would be great if they would take Murphy instead.

 

grizz, celt, atl, toronto, ny. i see these teams with the best chance. toronto should jump at this ivo bosh combo would be great for them. ny could trade marbury and some extras for ivo. while ny gets rid of steph.

 

Too small. Plus, I'd rather keep Ike or we get destroyed even more in the halfcourt...

Once AI loses his quicks or starts wearing down because of all his past injuries, he maybe just a really good role player or a guy seeing the bench or inactive list. I mean this is possibly a few years from now.

 

It would be interesting to replace Baron with Allen Iverson straight up. For all of the things Baron lacks e.g. staying healthy/on the court, getting to the FT line, making FT's, playing at a high level at all times, etc. we find these to be some of the strengths of Allen Iverson.

If the 76ers have the weak hand here, I would consider starting with AI for Baron and Keith McLeod. Then maybe bumping it up to Baron and Zarko, if the first one doesn't work. I would stop considering a trade once it includes both Baron and Ike for just Allen Iverson. How about a fatty deal of Baron/Murphy/Foyle for AI/Webber? haha that would be just nuts though maybe... I have found a slight wall keeping me from being optimistic about this team after the last week, so I am letting my mind wonder on this trade idea because it is intersting I think.

 

Not sure how adding Zarko is a bump-up

Well, AI is a great player but he's not a true point guard -- he's a ball hog who will take 25 shots a night and we will see Monta, JRich and others have a dip in production. Baron is a ball-hog too, but he still has a point-guard mentality, when he's focused.

The difference between AI and Baron is consistency and health. AI has been an ironman. Baron has not.

However, ultimately, Allen Iverson is demanding a trade, abandoning his teammates and "conceeding defeat" in Philly. I'd never want a guy like that as my franchise leader. For this reason alone, I wouldn't want him in GS.

 

yea i think u guys have the best chance to get him out of any team.. and i think he would fit and have a good role for the team..only thing is he willing to come across the country to play ball here

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
However, ultimately, Allen Iverson is demanding a trade, abandoning his teammates and "conceeding defeat" in Philly. I'd never want a guy like that as my franchise leader. For this reason alone, I wouldn't want him in GS.</div>

umm yea..lets see your leaders in the past 10 years have been jamison, jrich, and hmm maybe foyle(well they pay him enough to be a leader)..uhh yea ill take iverson over those guys

 

<div class="quote_poster">AlleyOop Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Not sure how adding Zarko is a bump-up

Well, AI is a great player but he's not a true point guard -- he's a ball hog who will take 25 shots a night and we will see Monta, JRich and others have a dip in production. Baron is a ball-hog too, but he still has a point-guard mentality, when he's focused.

The difference between AI and Baron is consistency and health. AI has been an ironman. Baron has not.

However, ultimately, Allen Iverson is demanding a trade, abandoning his teammates and "conceeding defeat" in Philly. I'd never want a guy like that as my franchise leader. For this reason alone, I wouldn't want him in GS.</div>

Good point about Zarko. Maybe McLeod and Zarko don't have so much that seperates the two.

Did Baron Davis demand a trade? I am not sure if he did, I can't remember. I also think Allen Iverson would be willing to play for Don Nelson.

Maybe there are small reasons to do this deal and small reasons not to do it. I will tend to do it because AI has finals experience, he is durable, he gets to the line and is a proven and consistent go-to-player and he is a former league MVP. I see AI being close to a Kobe type player where Baron Davis is just like a Ray Allen. One has been a winner the other just a good players that hasn't lead a team to anything.

 

I don't want Iverson on this team. Granted, he's a tough player, but also an overrated ballhog who shoots low 40s for his career. You can make the excuse that his team is just awful, but he couldn't lead Olympic team anywhere even though it was stacked with talent.

I definitely put Iverson in the Marbury, Francis, and Davis category. I think he's better than those three. But not much better.

 

I would consider Baron for AI, but I would rather give up someone like Murphy.

 

If we kept Baron and AI on the same team (if that's even possible, which I don't think it is because salaries are different between Iverson and Murphy + somebody), that's two max contracts and we're already not doing so hot with staying under luxury tax limit. Meanwhile, we lose any chance to re-sign Ellis or Biedrins or Ike or whoever.

There's got to be a way to unload Baron or Murphy or whoever seems to be affecting the chemistry in a non-team like manner. I would want to keep Baron, but he can be a double edged sword for us because of injuries and ego. Maybe if we change the rest of the team, he'll start passing more... I don't really know. It's all speculation. It's like how the Knicks have a talented Starbury, but the team is so jacked up with ill-fitting players and no flexiblity to make good moves that fit, the GM doesn't know what to do. I think Mullin is another former nba great in a front office position that doesn't know what to do because they made so many big mistakes all at once. He and Isiah are made for each other because of their predicaments. The difference is one is inclined to make a lot of moves with unlimited budget and the other is inclined to stand pat because he knows it was a one-shot deal. The only move that could have been made to give this roster a chance was to switch coaches.

 

Not to beat a dead horse again, but 5-6 years each guaranteed for a starting frontline of Dunleavy, Murphy, Foyle? Good grief. He must have thought Derek Fisher and Richardson were 2/3's of the new 2004 version of Run TMC. Few quick ballhandlers and nobody to get inside. It's no wonder we cannot create offense or defend at faster tempos. And now we're worry about undoing all of Mullin's strengths as a drafter because there's no money or way to get rid of bad contracts unless we give up something good.

 

<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I vote unrealistic and stay away from Iverson. The Warriors don't have any issues with scoring, why bring in another scorer and dismantle the rebuilding for aging, overpaid, disgruntled player?

I don't think Mullin is going to jeopardize the moves he's made to accomodate the 76ers. The Warriors made a big splash already, bringing back Nellie.

He's the perfect coach for this roster, and Iverson won't make much difference this season or down the line.

The only two players I'd pursue are KG or Jermaine O'Neal. Those two fill an actual void in the Warriors lineup.</div>

And... the discussion has been settled. I couldn't agree more.

 

Please, no.

 

As a fan, I love watching Allen Iverson.
As a coach, I would rather not have Iverson on my roster.